Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 35.2 - Her Name is Sudou Ayami

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Yeah no, this friendship is rushed. If we took out her horrible prank then maybe I could over look it. But holy hell all we get is this girl being a bitch and hikari for no reason just being like "I wants friends!". Like I don't need it to be realistic but characters have to have reactions to stuff that is taking place. All Hikari is doing is bulldozing to friendship all other actions in universe be damned.
 
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I'm sorry, a month? She's known her for a month and even after that whole initial meeting, she thinks of Ayami as her "best" friend? This girl is completely fucked in the head. Imagine becoming so obsessed over someone a single month after meeting them, holy shit.
 
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She's been written this way the entire time though - the whole Yuu arc her thought process was "oh, gotta play cool here".
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Which also, that's why I don't think forgiveness is a given. B/c that would be the surface "persona" emotion for Hikari & not necessarily the deep real one.
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I don't think it's inconsistent with how she was written at all, I'm just saddened that it narrows the possible trajectory of her character by starting to eliminate my preferred reading of her actions. My previous read had her as the kind of person who would reject the characterization of people as 'dark' or 'light' as something that entirely belonged in Hikari's naive world. She didn't hate the nickname Yami because she agreed it hit too close to home, but because it "wasn't even wrong," so to speak - she resented people conflating her character with her circumstances.

Yeah, she can be read as being cool and edgy (in the "underwhelmed/over it" behavior sense) through her early interactions with Yuu but she never comes out and says that's what she's going for - we're left to infer that from her actions. The insight we get into her thought process is mostly focused on accomplishing a series of short-term goals. I preferred a reality where that was less of a "leaning into a role" thing and more of a "she's emotionally burned out and has nothing left to give" thing. She didn't think of herself as a dark girl or one tainted by darkness, but as a normal girl denied a normal life by forces beyond her control.

Once she and Yuu were together, though, my sense was that she wasn't actively trying to be cool at all - she was a little distant in what she shared with him less out of "not wanting to appear weak" and more out of the fact that this relationship was the one place in her life where she COULD be weak and uncool and normal, and she had to compartmentalize the hell out of her life to achieve that. Throwing that away was development toward self-sacrifice from self-destruction, even if it was maybe still somewhere in between the two.

Yeah, her whole "sex == defilement," thing is consistent with being a shitty edgelord, but I was reading that more as rationalization for her own self-destructive pursuit of an un-numbing pleasure ("carve scars into both our hearts") on the worst day of her life, than a legit premeditated motive based in self-pity. I was hoping that giving her a tragic backstory was showing that she came by her realism honestly, and that she would be growing up and out of the worst of it, but never internalizing the idea that her experiences contributed to a "darkness" that needed to be fixed.

Mostly I guess I don't want to see either girl's development sacrificed on the altar of that parallel structure, because I actually really like this story and I don't want to see it invalidated for a gimmick. I'm even fine with them meeting in the middle - Hikari was written from the jump as more concerned with appearances than actual morality, and people forget that she's straight-up deceptive in like almost every chapter with Yuu, because it's in pursuit of adorable childhood friend/crush hijinks. I'd love to see her develop beyond a collection of tropes, and she started to do that walking to school with Yuu the morning of the current "futuremost point in the timeline." Ayami being edgy feels like a reduction in the overall complexity of her character, and thus kind of a waste.

Once you go down the road of each lead containing dichotomies, nothing's off the table anymore (e.g., not forgiving Aya, like you said) and anything can be explained away moment-to-moment. That would be lazy and I think this series is better than that, although these past two half-chapters didn't quite hit for me.

Which yes, it'd be nice to get into Yuu's head and see the version of Aya he sees.
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There are two stories here, and they both are nice, but their intersection creates a whiplash of drama.
 
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... this whole thing is so, so cruel to Hikari. Re-reading everything from the start, it really leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If the the author can turn this around, it could be glorious.
If.
Presently I have very little hope the author will give Hikari a fulfilling ending… at best she’s probably gonna get a BS “but she was happy that they were happy”.
 
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This is awful

...why are we here
 
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It feels like so much is missing for them to become friends after everything. It's been a month in universe and one chapter for us. It feels so rushed, forced, and unbelievable as is...
Isn’t this a retrospect of how they became friends before she caught her kissing dude?
 
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Where the fuck is this story going?
It's like the author is brewing together a very nasty concoction of character dynamics, that will surely not end well.
 
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@essensue said:
. She didn't think of herself as a dark girl or one tainted by darkness, but as a normal girl denied a normal life by forces beyond her control.
Eh, she describes both Yuu and Hikari as 'untainted' and it's very clearly as a contrast to how she thinks of herself b/c she talks about 'tainting' Yuu.

Which right, she thinks she doesn't deserve normal things so she tries to self-sabatoge - make Hikari hate her before they can be friends, ghost Yuu instead of testing if their relationship could withstand the stress of her home life (meaning a relationship situated within her normal life rather than outside it).

my sense was that she wasn't actively trying to be cool at all
Went back and forth on this on half the previous threads, but I think it's written as a trauma response/reaction to how her mom gets super invested/clingy w/ her guys (and that's why we're even given those details about her mom). But also that yeah she's actively holding back on the things that could make him think she's weak or uncool - like that she's a virgin/inexperienced, or that she's jealous/insecure about Hikari, or that she's sincere about moving in together.

Mostly I guess I don't want to see either girl's development sacrificed on the altar of that parallel structure
Agree, though I've been mostly okay with the character development so far - like identity is the Erikson stage teens are in so that's the theme that gets explored in fiction about/for 'em.
 
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I guess we are FINALLY going back to the original timeline after this? I don't see where else thing would be going if not there
 

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