Imasara desuga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natteshimaimashita - Ch. 47 - Together, Once Again

[outinthegardener]

Wouldn't that actually put her in a tight spot? Because she knows she would've rejected him back then, she said as much in chapter 17.

Eh, maybe? I'm not sure Hikari (or anyone) should consider poor timing to be their fault. Like, if you're 15 and you're not into the guy, of course you'd reject them. But then a year later you turn 16 and your hormones get all saucy, and you start thinking "I should confess! Maybe they'll say yes!" And that's fine. That's normal teenage faildating. Or the guy has moved on and sadfucked an emo chick, and you go "drats! bad timing!"

No, the thing I expect her to be upset about is Yuu's negative self-image. Telling the girl who likes you that you personally think she shouldn't have liked you because you have an inferiority complex is like telling someone they have terrible judgment and they should reconsider their relationship with you. It's insulting!

Hence why I'm wondering what part of "everything" he actually told her. Either he omitted his worst faults, or Hikari is more chill than a walk-in freezer.

 

[GennArc]

No, the thing I expect her to be upset about is Yuu's negative self-image.

She is already aware of his low self-esteem, she even said a few lines about it throughout the story.

Telling the girl who likes you that you personally think she shouldn't have liked you because you have an inferiority complex

Hm? That's not his line of thought. He isn't thinking "she shouldn't have liked me", he is thinking "there was no way she liked me". Or am I taking your words too literally?
His inferiority complex is not about "I did not deserve her love", but rather about "she was shining so brightly that I needed to do something grand to make her notice me".

 

[_Lugh]

Love can be messy.
Hikari and Yuu know that.
Yami's a hot mess.

 

[_Lugh]

Thinking about it, Hikari and Yami really are equal and opposite.
Yami gave Yuu her body, but couldn't give her heart. They were "intimate" but it wasn't intimacy, if that makes any sense.
Hikari is being as intimate with Yuu as Yami ever could be, just by touching his hand.
Think of how much closer they could be if their relationship progressed. Should they be together, they shall become one flesh.
Yami and Yuu's relationship (more of a fling, frankly) had run it's course. They had been together, but Yami could not truly give herself to him, she could only give her body.
Hikari and Yuu have the potential to give all of themselves to each other. That sounds like a much more fulfilling relationship to me, for what it's worth.

I hope Yami gets some help.

 

[peortega1]

Eh, maybe? I'm not sure Hikari (or anyone) should consider poor timing to be their fault. Like, if you're 15 and you're not into the guy, of course you'd reject them. But then a year later you turn 16 and your hormones get all saucy, and you start thinking "I should confess! Maybe they'll say yes!" And that's fine. That's normal teenage faildating

This is where Hikari doesn´t giving a damn and not caring about her supposed best childhood mal friend wasn't going to the same school as her, which was pretty insensitive from her part. It became perfectly clear that if Yuu didn't make a big change about himself, Hikari would never notice him romantically.

Or the guy has moved on and sadfucked an emo chick

Emo chick who Hikari chose to be her own best friend. Again, you all conveniently ignore those chapters where Hikari said she considered "Aya-chan" even more important to her than "Taa-kun", which is why she felt so betrayed by the Judas kiss in chapter 21.

No, the thing I expect her to be upset about is Yuu's negative self-image. Telling the girl who likes you that you personally think she shouldn't have liked you because you have an inferiority complex is like telling someone they have terrible judgment and they should reconsider their relationship with you. It's insulting!

Not, it´s just say the same thing Hikari accepted in chapter 41 when Yami said it to her face. Without Ayami relationship with Yuu, Hikari never would have look Yuu as a male. Hikari is the typical case of GIRL WHO ONLY RECIPROCATES YOU AFTER YOU GOT A GIRLFRIEND, is really funny how all you try to cope and deny the painfully obivous.

or Hikari is more chill than a walk-in freezer.

Or Hikari already knew Yuu very well and is not very surprised -but still disdainful if you read the novel version-. This is the reason why she says very clearly from the start is the recent changes experienced by Yuu the reason why she is finally able to fell in love with "Taa-kun". Is not just "teenage hormones".
And yes, Maruto male leads have the power to make the same girls who literally got wet for them, would call them "coward boys" at the first opportunity. Yami chapters is a glorious example of this, it was very comical how she passes so fastily from "I want ride you and make you feel good, Yuu" to "this idiot of Yuu is so fucking coward spineless".
Another reason why Izumi, the MC of Shikimori-san, was inspired by the MC of White Album 2, is the reason why Miyako Shikimori falls in love with him, the same reason why Chiaki fell in love with Haruki in Closing Chapter: Izumi being so pathetic and having so little self-esteem, it was who attracted Shikimori.

 

[Aezeryel]

Is it me or is the tl subpar, to say the least, this chapter? For a moment I thought it was someone else doing it.

 

[Aezeryel]

I would venture to say that most of the people reading this on Mangadex don't bother to click on the novel link in the description and go read it.

People come to a manga hosting site to read manga and not light novels? Who would have thought?

 

[luzikag]

Ugg my March Madness bracket is in shambles and now I have to read another chapter of this manga that leaves out sooooo much information from the novel.

In the novel, right between Hikari asking Yuu to talk and him starting to talk (so pages 3 and 4 of this chapter), Yuu says "Yami-senpai is the first person who has ever saved me in my life...and the first person I've ever had to save in my life." This causes Hikari to think that his statement is a death sentence for her aka her chances of having any sort of romantic relationship with Yuu. It's compounded further on when she realizes that Yuu and Yami are 30 steps ahead of her.

Then, when they're arguing on pages 6 & 7 about who helped melt Yami's heart and the fact that they both "broke" Yami again, Hikari thinks "Should I give Ta-kun to Aya-chan? But would that even make Aya-chan happy? And more importantly, would that even be something I could accept?" I would assume that's a big enough reveal to make the manga but nope.

Also, regarding the whole "we broke Yami thing" - seriously barf - Yami did the heavy lifting there. If you want to think about it logically, Hikari had no clue that Yami and Yuu even knew each other until she witnessed the kiss and Yuu had no clue that Yami and Hikari knew each other until he met Yami in the classroom. For both Yuu and Hikari to try to take ownership of Yami breaking is lame and frankly kind of insulting to the reader.

Right after page 8 in the manga, in the novel Hikari thinks "I won't let the weakling Ta-kun decide anything right now because he's the one who lied to me in the first place. So from now on I will only follow my own feelings. I won't allow him, a liar, to run away for that reason alone. That's right, okay? I won't let you get away, Ta-kun" - I think this is a pretty big revelation that gets zero mention in the manga.

Then on page 11 after Hikari has asked about how much Yuu liked Yami and her there's nothing further but in the novel, Hikari thinks "So, if his feelings for Aya aren't a lie, then his feelings for me aren't a lie either, is that it? He's so indecisive! Well, I guess I'm a chicken for using the past tense when asking about his love for Aya." Again, we're getting all these insights into Hikari's mindsight and they are not making it to the manga.

Finally, in the novel, right after Hikari puts her hand over Yuu's we get the following insight into her mind: "He could easily break free if he just shook me off. But he doesn't run away. Of course not, right? Because he really, really, really liked me. Those kind of feelings don't just disappear so easily. I'm sure that's true of his feelings for Aya-chan too."

Seriously, we get all these insights into Hikari's mind and none of the really good stuff is shared in the manga. I would venture to say that most of the people reading this on Mangadex don't bother to click on the novel link in the description and go read it. I just don't understand why they leave so much out.

thats a lot of information left behind 😲, but maybe this is the nature of LN adaptations. Either way thanks for this insight

 

[outinthegardener]

Hm? That's not his line of thought. He isn't thinking "she shouldn't have liked me", he is thinking "there was no way she liked me". Or am I taking your words too literally?
His inferiority complex is not about "I did not deserve her love", but rather about "she was shining so brightly that I needed to do something grand to make her notice me".

Those phrases are inversions of each other. It's like how gifting someone exercise gear can be interpreted as saying they need to exercise because they're fat. "She was so bright I needed to do something to stand out" = "I don't stand out as I am" = "I don't deserve her love as I am."

If they had a secure enough relationship and a healthy pattern of communication, they could avoid those sorts of language games. But it's these idiots. Hikari thought she was his close childhood friend and neighbor. Then found out he didn't trust her enough to tell her about his feelings, and instead he went out and boinked someone else. He unilaterally rejected himself, without involving her. If I was Hikari, I'd be upset by that.

 

[hawk7034]

Ugg my March Madness bracket is in shambles and now I have to read another chapter of this manga that leaves out sooooo much information from the novel.

In the novel, right between Hikari asking Yuu to talk and him starting to talk (so pages 3 and 4 of this chapter), Yuu says "Yami-senpai is the first person who has ever saved me in my life...and the first person I've ever had to save in my life." This causes Hikari to think that his statement is a death sentence for her aka her chances of having any sort of romantic relationship with Yuu. It's compounded further on when she realizes that Yuu and Yami are 30 steps ahead of her.

Then, when they're arguing on pages 6 & 7 about who helped melt Yami's heart and the fact that they both "broke" Yami again, Hikari thinks "Should I give Ta-kun to Aya-chan? But would that even make Aya-chan happy? And more importantly, would that even be something I could accept?" I would assume that's a big enough reveal to make the manga but nope.

Also, regarding the whole "we broke Yami thing" - seriously barf - Yami did the heavy lifting there. If you want to think about it logically, Hikari had no clue that Yami and Yuu even knew each other until she witnessed the kiss and Yuu had no clue that Yami and Hikari knew each other until he met Yami in the classroom. For both Yuu and Hikari to try to take ownership of Yami breaking is lame and frankly kind of insulting to the reader.

Right after page 8 in the manga, in the novel Hikari thinks "I won't let the weakling Ta-kun decide anything right now because he's the one who lied to me in the first place. So from now on I will only follow my own feelings. I won't allow him, a liar, to run away for that reason alone. That's right, okay? I won't let you get away, Ta-kun" - I think this is a pretty big revelation that gets zero mention in the manga.

Then on page 11 after Hikari has asked about how much Yuu liked Yami and her there's nothing further but in the novel, Hikari thinks "So, if his feelings for Aya aren't a lie, then his feelings for me aren't a lie either, is that it? He's so indecisive! Well, I guess I'm a chicken for using the past tense when asking about his love for Aya." Again, we're getting all these insights into Hikari's mindsight and they are not making it to the manga.

Finally, in the novel, right after Hikari puts her hand over Yuu's we get the following insight into her mind: "He could easily break free if he just shook me off. But he doesn't run away. Of course not, right? Because he really, really, really liked me. Those kind of feelings don't just disappear so easily. I'm sure that's true of his feelings for Aya-chan too."

Seriously, we get all these insights into Hikari's mind and none of the really good stuff is shared in the manga. I would venture to say that most of the people reading this on Mangadex don't bother to click on the novel link in the description and go read it. I just don't understand why they leave so much out.

You're making mountains out of mole hills man

 

[peortega1]

If they had a secure enough relationship and a healthy pattern of communication, they could avoid those sorts of language games. But it's these idiots. Hikari thought she was his close childhood friend and neighbor. Then found out he didn't trust her enough to tell her about his feelings, and instead he went out and boinked someone else. He unilaterally rejected himself, without involving her. If I was Hikari, I'd be upset by that.

The joke here is the untrust of Yuu was fully justified by the events narrated in his PoV in Twilight Omake Arc who was published by Maruto during the last year hiatus. If Hikari didn´t give a fuck about Yuu not even going to the same school as her, is because Hikari DIDNT CONSIDERED HIM as "his close childhood friend". They were just neighbors, not more:

Spoiler: Yuu PoV - Chapter 3

My self-deprecating remarks elicited a slightly troubled smile from Hikari.

"But it'll be fine! Look, Ta-kun is a late bloomer!"
"That's not a good way to comfort someone who's not doing well right now..."
"Haha, that's not what I meant!"

But soon, her smile brightens again, just like a sunflower. Yes, a smile suits Hikari no matter what. A smile of pure friendship, without any pretense or embarrassment.

"Oh, I see... You'll be a high school student next year, huh?"
"Well, I guess so."
"But then, I wonder if we'll be walking home together like this, or stopping by places on the way home less often?"
"...Yeah, I guess so."
"But, I'll still be coming over to your house quite often anyway, so nothing will really change, right?"
"...Yeah, I guess so."

She's completely unaware of my feelings. But she doesn't doubt for a second that we have any "friendship-like affection" for each other.

Also, Hikari is glad because with his actions, Yuu avoided her the bothering to have to formally rejecting him -as she says to us she securely would have do in chapter 17-. You forgot we are talking about the same girl who made Yuu had dates with several girls of their middle school because Hikari wanted Yuu would get a girlfriend (chapter 12), but she didn´t want be that girlfriend.
Again, Hikari is fully aware she wouldn´t never fell in love with Yuu without his relationship with "Aya-chan", she repeats it in this chapter.

 

[story645]

Tbf if someone said they always loved me then made love with someone else I'd doubt them too

Especially since even now he still hasn't firmly chosen a girl. In the novel, Hikari legit believes she can just give him to Aya - she questions whether that would make either girl happy, but not that she can.

but Yami could not truly give herself to him,

Largely cause Aya thought he wasn't really hers. Which, Yuu unequivocally choosing Aya should resolve those feelings of insecurity (at least in manga logic) - so long as he's not doing it at Hikari's urging.

If I was Hikari, I'd be upset by that.

I think it's bundled up in her feelings about him lying to her.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Seriously, we get all these insights into Hikari's mind and none of the really good stuff is shared in the manga. I would venture to say that most of the people reading this on Mangadex don't bother to click on the novel link in the description and go read it. I just don't understand why they leave so much out.

TY for posting that. I agree, there is so much much gold that gets left out from the source material.

just for your own enlightenment, I don't read the novel because I dislike japanese 'light novel' way of telling stories with rapid shifts in perspective and assumptions for the reader about who is talking.
I do very much enjoy the distilled analysis that removes the cracked out ADHD shifts.

Make up and make out threesome with Yami now

fix'd

 

[_Lugh]

Largely cause Aya thought he was really Hikari's. Which, Yuu unequivocally choosing Aya should resolve those feelings of insecurity (at least in manga logic) - so long as he's not doing it at Hikari's urging.

One doesn't usually sleep with somebody you see as belonging to another.
At least, unless one is in a throuple or is a whore

 

[peortega1]

One doesn't usually sleep with somebody you see as belonging to another.

Yes, that is the joke, Hikari didn´t want have Yuu, she indirectly rejected him, so, Yuu was free to date with anyone he wants, fuck, Hikari literally organized several of those dates in middle school for him. Hikari also thinks a couple of boyfriend-girlfriend having sex is entirely normal and she doesn´t seems them with disgust. The worrying of Hikari is mostly about Yuu hiding his relationship with Yami to her in chapters 36-38 and if Yuu still feels something for Yami right now -and she recognizes to herself who she is a coward for make her question in past tense-. So, she is now in the same position Yami was in first year
Also, as Hikari herself said in chapter 41, if Yuu followed Yami to that love hotel, is because he was genuinely insecure about if accept Yami proposal or still simping a Hikari who, again, DIDNT RECIPROCATED HIM.
"I will make you to forget her" is maybe not the best start for a relationship, but is still valid. And Yami won in her goal, Yuu definitely chose her over Hikari in chapter 29 where they had their last scene together as couple and he confess IN PUBLIC he loves Yami, so, Yami really managed to open her heart to Yuu, and if is not for her mother, their relationship probably would have lasted the enough time to at least Hikari would learn about them dating
Again, if you want an eternal simp, Kanokari is waiting for you.

 

[story645]

One doesn't usually sleep with somebody you see as belonging to another.

Is pretty common for insecure (ETA: often) self-destructive folks. Validation of winning over the another, but no trust that the somebody so easily won can't be as easily won away again.

It's a gloriously toxic mess explored so often in women's media that it's basically the standard sidepiece trope/arc.

 

[peortega1]

It's a gloriously toxic mess explored so often in women's media that it's basically the standard sidepiece trope/arc.

Still better than "he has to fight for her for 10 years if it´s neccesary" like Kanokari, Maison Ikkoku or Telemundo soap operas

Is pretty common for insecure self-destructive folks. Validation of winning over the another, but no trust that the somebody so easily won can't be as easily won away again.

Hello, are you talking about me?

 

[Alzu]

Gods, Hikari might actually be a cuckquean if she doesn't take this opportunity to win over Yuu.

 

[Bobby_Dipshit]

I don't like this its too fast for reconciliation, i want hikari to fall in love with another guy, i want drama not romcom.

but this is a romcom so we're just getting cucked here

 

[GennArc]

Those phrases are inversions of each other. It's like how gifting someone exercise gear can be interpreted as saying they need to exercise because they're fat. "She was so bright I needed to do something to stand out" = "I don't stand out as I am" = "I don't deserve her love as I am."

I see your point, but I think there are different sentiments in "You shouldn't have liked me" and in "There was no way she could like me". In the first case, it's deciding for the other person, in the second case, it's merely weighing your own chances.
Besides, he already said that in chapter 38. About her being out of his league etc. She didn't get mad at all.

He unilaterally rejected himself, without involving her. If I was Hikari, I'd be upset by that.

And I still think it'd be far more upsetting for her if she already rejected him and then fell in love later, while he already moved on.