Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san - Vol. 6 Ch. 66

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wait what , i don't really get confused but who tf is this and why are we here suddenly :worry:
 
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I only know Tamaki who is Suzu's big sis but why should i care about this boy ? I mean, it's clearly trans thought but that came out of nowhere and we gonna probably have no follow-up so why should i care about him ?
 
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Interesting if a bit sad to see that yes, men do exist in this world, where girls are 99% of the shown population.

Him just wishing to be someone the person they like can like back, wishing they could have a chance, while knowing that isn't possible...oof.

And no, transitioning isn't the answer. After all, becoming a girl EXCLUSIVELY because one person you want to have as a partner wouldn't even look at you romantically otherwise isn't something that will leave you psychologically unscathed, and if anything it's liable to fuck you up horrendously from the hormonal change and trying to adapt your entire live on that small hope (which might not even pan out depending on how Nekoyama senior sees that kind of desperation as, because that's basically what it would be at that point).
 
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Its the lines after silly. "But i have to be a boy", "its impossible to change", "but i cant cry" etc.. All the while Tamaki herself seems to have caught wind, and is subtly urging hey dog its ok if youre a girl. But lets go back to their first meeting where Kasuga is absolutely rocked that someone got to pass off as another gender, and wished Tamaki actually was a guy twice (!!) not because of something silly like basketball or romance (seeing as he expressed this long after their sports days and he knows romance is off the table as he is) but to know that such a thing was possible. But idk really weird to be in a rush to go "NOT TRANS NOT TRANS".
 
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Its the lines after silly. "But i have to be a boy", "its impossible to change", "but i cant cry" etc.. All the while Tamaki herself seems to have caught wind, and is subtly urging hey dog its ok if youre a girl. But lets go back to their first meeting where Kasuga is absolutely rocked that someone got to pass off as another gender, and wished Tamaki actually was a guy twice (!!) not because of something silly like basketball or romance (seeing as he expressed this long after their sports days and he knows romance is off the table as he is) but to know that such a thing was possible. But idk really weird to be in a rush to go "NOT TRANS NOT TRANS".
I mean it sounds more like he liked her and wanted her to love him back, but since she is a lesbian he had a thought of "maybe if I was a woman...nah" and is fine now rather than an issue of being trans, it almost feels like people are rushing to claim trans is the reason for the thought and not something more normal in expectation like love for someone who wont love back
TLDR: he is lamenting not being someone she will love rather than desiring to be a woman and it feels odd to claim it is because he is trans
 
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Lol you did not read shit. If it was just the guy pining for her why would Nekoyama Sr. be floating out the idea he could be a girl? Why would he be so hung up on Sr. getting to pass for a boy? God you cis people are insufferable. Sure, it's like 60% subtext, but like 40% is like very obvious that gender is at play like, be serious. The whole context for the two characters relationship was "you passed for a boy but youre a girl (wow thats incredible and i think im jealous for some reason)". Like Sr. Is aware of the guys feelings its a known dead end despite throwing that lifeline of "hey seriously think about who you are (gender isnt the reason why its a no)" and yet still Kasuga still has those feelings of wanting to be a girl. To claim theres 0 to do with gender, to claim there isnt any envy felt by homie, both that somehow Nekoyama was able to cross that line of gender, and that she is in a happy lesbian relationship, would be silly. Let's also just back up to a basic fact that seems absent too, trans people can also be lesbians, and sometimes, ones acknowledgement of being lesbian comes before fully grasping your gender.
 
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Lol you did not read shit. If it was just the guy pining for her why would Nekoyama Sr. be floating out the idea he could be a girl? Why would he be so hung up on Sr. getting to pass for a boy? God you cis people are insufferable. Sure, it's like 60% subtext, but like 40% is like very obvious that gender is at play like, be serious. The whole context for the two characters relationship was "you passed for a boy but youre a girl (wow thats incredible and i think im jealous for some reason)". Like Sr. Is aware of the guys feelings its a known dead end despite throwing that lifeline of "hey seriously think about who you are (gender isnt the reason why its a no)" and yet still Kasuga still has those feelings of wanting to be a girl. To claim theres 0 to do with gender, to claim there isnt any envy felt by homie, both that somehow Nekoyama was able to cross that line of gender, and that she is in a happy lesbian relationship, would be silly. Let's also just back up to a basic fact that seems absent too, trans people can also be lesbians, and sometimes, ones acknowledgement of being lesbian comes before fully grasping your gender.
Just write a trans character yourself instead of insisting that anyone who has nary errant thought out side of your cookie cutter definition of male/female is definitely trans. I swear it's not even like it's hard to find actual trans characters in manga but lazy people like you have to go out claim characters that aren't are
 
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Just write a trans character yourself instead of insisting that anyone who has nary errant thought out side of your cookie cutter definition of male/female is definitely trans. I swear it's not even like it's hard to find actual trans characters in manga but lazy people like you have to go out claim characters that aren't are
Ah the classic "accuse trans person of being narrow minded about gender". Chud behavior. Where do you get off? Lecturing me about not knowing trans manga chars??? And then were did you see this character in particular definitively state they arent trans? Why would cis people particularly care whether random ensemble, just-introduced-before-the-final-volume one-off is claimed as trans. There's literally no stake for yall.
 
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Ah the classic "accuse trans person of being narrow minded about gender". Chud behavior. Where do you get off? Lecturing me about not knowing trans manga chars??? And then were did you see this character in particular definitively state they arent trans? Why would cis people particularly care whether random ensemble, just-introduced-before-the-final-volume one-off is claimed as trans. There's literally no stake for yall.
You aren't trans just a piss poor ally and I'm not accusing you of being narrow-minded about gender. You are narrow-minded about gender
 
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You aren't trans just a piss poor ally and I'm not accusing you of being narrow-minded about gender. You are narrow-minded about gender
Uh its news to me that im not trans. Weird though that i have an delestrogen injection for tomorrow and taxes to file under my deadname. Guess i am a menopausal cis woman on HRT with parents that went really off the wall with a "unisex" name that I somehow didnt resolve for 40 years. That aside.... How is it narrow minded? To read this chapter as a trans narrative? When did I say anything narrow and prescriptive about gender?
 
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Do you like want to address any of my points or do you wanna play No True Scotsman, and pull the least charitable interpretation of my initial joke??? Also my pfp is literally a picture of myself that I commissioned from Max Graves.
 
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Do you like want to address any of my points or do you wanna play No True Scotsman, and pull the least charitable interpretation of my initial joke??? Also my pfp is literally a picture of myself that I commissioned from Max Graves.
Lol you did not read shit. If it was just the guy pining for her why would Nekoyama Sr. be floating out the idea he could be a girl? Why would he be so hung up on Sr. getting to pass for a boy? God you cis people are insufferable. Sure, it's like 60% subtext, but like 40% is like very obvious that gender is at play like, be serious. The whole context for the two characters relationship was "you passed for a boy but youre a girl (wow thats incredible and i think im jealous for some reason)". Like Sr. Is aware of the guys feelings its a known dead end despite throwing that lifeline of "hey seriously think about who you are (gender isnt the reason why its a no)" and yet still Kasuga still has those feelings of wanting to be a girl. To claim theres 0 to do with gender, to claim there isnt any envy felt by homie, both that somehow Nekoyama was able to cross that line of gender, and that she is in a happy lesbian relationship, would be silly. Let's also just back up to a basic fact that seems absent too, trans people can also be lesbians, and sometimes, ones acknowledgement of being lesbian comes before fully grasping your gender.
 

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