Isekai Kenkokuki - Vol. 8 Ch. 57

[InsaneAwesomeTony]

Thanks for the chapter 👍🏼

 

[Rayla89]

Almus wasted no time. Takes the throne as his prize, takes Yuria as his wife, and immediately orders the execution of the rotten nobles that betrayed the kingdom no one else had the balls to even question. Everyone else in the room just fell in love with the guy instantly, if they didn't like him already.

 

[amamiya426]

that feels like extremely forced without the MC being anything less than a national hero with the backin of an important fraction of nobles specially when they are the ones with military power unlike the King

He's considered son of the neighboring local deity(Griffon).
The 'savior' of the survivor of the fallen noble Ash clan.
Adopted by the king's brother due to above two.
Married into the aforementioned Ash clan, rebuilding and picking up the scattered would-still be loyal allied clans/retainers.

Who/where was is said that the king/royal faction doesn't have any military power?
Sure centralization was only considered until Almus suggested it but that doesn't mean the royal family isn't without allies or any military at all.

 

[Druhms]

Almus be following Machiavelli's quote about doing all your punishment all at once so that the consequences are felt less

 

[zarian2]

WHOA. They went from like -5000 KPH to like +100000 KPH, in half a chapter.

 

[Blaze_Rod]

Well, that was fast.

 

[reicchimaster]

Went from 100 to over 9000 real quick.

 

[WhimsiCat]

Tell that to any noble in any setting that is not a comedic one and youll get sent to the gallows for being an smartass. Thats like saying that monkeys are also humans because we descended from them. Even if its tecnically true thats an irrelevant point, nobles rule and peasants obey and thats the "natural order" in medieval settings. Depending on the setting peasants are might be even not considered human but assets like having 2 legged cattle

You know you're sounding a lot like a Dibel.
Heck even the part of treating peasants without human right was an issue that cause so many of them to leave Dibel territory...then turns out when you lose your farmer-conscripts, you've got issues.

Not to mention he plan to reform the system to centralize power, so those nobles are gonna lose their old way regardless (actually, do you even remember that point?)

Even if its good to have the peasants on your side, the important part is having the NOBLES on your side, since they are the ones with the military might. Thats like trying to rule a country with the military aiming for a coup the moment you start ruling

Say that to KING Ferme who succeeded in his coup by getting the populace on his side.
In case you're too stuck in 'medieval settings' to remember, much of the military numbers are conscripts i.e. the same peasants you value so little because NOBLES.

Also, guess who just won a fucking war against Domorgar? HE HAS THE MILITARY MIGHT.

It's almost like you didn't even read the story at all.

 

[XNFEdayo]

I'd bet alot of money that Vlad and Ivans people didn't have it good, armies conquering and all that takes young manpower.

History always gets written by the victor so ofcourse it'll be spun that the peasants had it good.

That said by Medievil standards Traitors are still traitors also the average peasent may never even realise if a lord changes. This plan ofcourse only works if all the nobility are in that coronation room which they weren't so this will/should become a big issue for MC but knowing this series writing won't.

Vlad ultimately lost though, that's why he was written as a monster and became the tale of Dracula. A better phrase would have been "A hero to one country is a mass murderer to another."

 

[BanditHadron]

Vlad ultimately lost though, that's why he was written as a monster and became the tale of Dracula. A better phrase would have been "A hero to one country is a mass murderer to another."

Indeed - you think some of the more famous generals from Japan are popular in China or Korea?

 

[XNFEdayo]

You know you're sounding a lot like a Dibel.
Heck even the part of treating peasants without human right was an issue that cause so many of them to leave Dibel territory...then turns out when you lose your farmer-conscripts, you've got issues.

Not to mention he plan to reform the system to centralize power, so those nobles are gonna lose their old way regardless (actually, do you even remember that point?)



Say that to KING Ferme who succeeded in his coup by getting the populace on his side.
In case you're too stuck in 'medieval settings' to remember, much of the military numbers are conscripts i.e. the same peasants you value so little because NOBLES.

Also, guess who just won a fucking war against Domorgar? HE HAS THE MILITARY MIGHT.

It's almost like you didn't even read the story at all.

snickers The story isn't even in medieval times, it's obviously based around Roman Empire era which pre-dates medieval.

 

[Kshatria]

mann... if only the real world had this kind of KING, but no, we only have politician, easily bribed and corrupt system

 

[Wataterp]

Imma bet one of my testicles that Rigar Dibel will gain some sort of powerup to make it harder for Almus to beat him.

 

[TheGodEmperor]

I am cool with removing and executing traitors, but I swear to god if you push that eastern collectivist shit tier ideology that treats all families as guilty instead of the individuals who did it... I will be disappointed. Do kinda hate where a western setting gets shoehorned with collectivist mindset which goes against the western setting.

 

[YoraeRasante]

I am cool with removing and executing traitors, but I swear to god if you push that eastern collectivist shit tier ideology that treats all families as guilty instead of the individuals who did it... I will be disappointed. Do kinda hate where a western setting gets shoehorned with collectivist mindset which goes against the western setting.

The author is eastern, so it is kinda expected though.

Which... could be properly justified, really.
Since if I remember right, after WW2 there was a worldwide law that made it so, if your superior gave an illegal order and you obeyed just because it was an order (as opposite to, for example, because you were threatened if you opposed them) you are still charged for the crime.
Meaning that there could be the argument that, unless a minor, everyone aware of the threason that did not report was also acting threasonous.

But what are the chances?

(actually, do you even remember that point?)

To be fair, this story had a lot of hiatuses, so it is not unexpected that people forgot some details.

That said, it was kinda obvious from this chapter that he did not just "asked for it and got everything", but that there was an agreement with the king that we just forgot about.

 

[Diegothon]

Let's fucking go finally

 

[dethduck]

After a year of that endless border skirmish, defending and routing a would be invader, Almus returns back like a boss! "Give me your crown, your daughter and the kingdom. Now. Where is that asshole Dibel and his cronies? I have words."

 

[Bearil]

Vlad ultimately lost though, that's why he was written as a monster and became the tale of Dracula. A better phrase would have been "A hero to one country is a mass murderer to another."

Actually even after his death the Principality of Walachia survived until the middle of the 19th century, and the ottomans were still terrified of him rising again somehow which deterred their atacks. He was never considered a villain in his homeland but a national hero equal to King Arthur in England or CuChulain in Ireland. His black fame as Dracula is derived from Bram Stoker's book published in 1897 that was completely fictional.

So yeah he did die but he did succeeded on protecting Walachia from the mighty Ottoman Empire assault which was an astonishing feat that no one expected to be possible

Also expecting all the nobles to just bend over by a peasant just right of the bat is insane. Many nobles expected to marry the princess and become kings themselves, while the MC should be considered by them between a useful tool at worst and a good ally at best, never him being their superior. In that moment the nobles could have easily said "lol no, we don't recognize you as a king" and what the MC could do!? Face the entire country? Either him and his companions are exterminated by sheer numbers or if by some miracle they managed to win, then the kingdom is almost destroyed and ripe for invasion of neighboring countries

Lately isekai and similar seem to share the idea of "In a world of brain dead people, the idiotic MC is the king" downgrading almost everyone to being almost complete morons while the MC is usually the only one that acts like a normal even if sometimes naive person so they can shine even brighter while surrounded by mediocrity at best. After all, the plot bends to the MC so hard that sometimes it must have medical back issues already

 

[ilikeanime]

Damn man your just gonna push ur daughter like that?

 

[ChubacaJones]

So, if I'm remembering correctly, doesn't he get a good sized personal power spike now that he's king? Like, didn't his gift give him strength depending on the number of people he leads or something?