Isekai Kenkokuki - Vol. 8 Ch. 57

[YoraeRasante]

It should.
But probably only after he consolidates his power. As in, it probably needs them to accept his leadership at the time to give him, and them, the power boost.

Also expecting all the nobles to just bend over by a peasant just right of the bat is insane. Many nobles expected to marry the princess and become kings themselves, while the MC should be considered by them between a useful tool at worst and a good ally at best, never him being their superior. In that moment the nobles could have easily said "lol no, we don't recognize you as a king" and what the MC could do!? Face the entire country? Either him and his companions are exterminated by sheer numbers or if by some miracle they managed to win, then the kingdom is almost destroyed and ripe for invasion of neighboring countries

Lately isekai and similar seem to share the idea of "In a world of brain dead people, the idiotic MC is the king" downgrading almost everyone to being almost complete morons while the MC is usually the only one that acts like a normal even if sometimes naive person so they can shine even brighter while surrounded by mediocrity at best. After all, the plot bends to the MC so hard that sometimes it must have medical back issues already

Well, he did have the backing and previous aggreement of the previous king already. Plus his military performance and everything else from before, the other nobles don't really have much say in it besides outright making it clear they are against the curre... er, previous king.
Which is why he mentioned when they were arriving that public opinion was important for them. If a whole civil war does break out, he adds the approval of the population to the previous king and his allies' support, and the other side is led by someone everyone dislikes. If a civil war does break out, that does not just make his position stronger, it will probably also make his power boost, for him and his allies, stronger too.

And yeah, this about most isekais is annoying.
Which I guess is what makes so many of them about a mob character or a villain one instead of a hero be more acceptable, they usually either have the world against them and need to be smart about it or are aware of how stupid the world is and are using it to their advantage to counter someone else's attempt to do the same.

 

[Bearil]

Still it's clear that the King is not all powerful, otherwise he could have easily dealt with the troublesome nobles by himself yet he didn't, meaning his power and/or influence is lesser than theirs.

If the King instead were an Emperor holding all the country's power he could say "this one is my successor" and no one could dispute that, at least openly.
In this case is more likely that the King himself is questioned, and wouldn't be that strange for him to be deposed arguing he's starting to become senile or became crazy, and use her daughter to legitimate their succession or even getting rid of her, ending their lineage and opening the throne to anyone with a good claim.

The scene reeked so much of "the entire setting orbits around ME so bow to my plot fortress mongrels, I'm your fated ruler" that was hilarious he didn't got executed several times for his crazy shaenigans, and no, his military deeds doesn't justify his actions not even close in any setting that tries to be even mildly realistic.

Even the child of the Griffin part is overrated considering many people had similar monikers to helping build a reputation and is not like everyone knows if it's true or not due to medieval level comunications that were often far from accurate.

 

[YoraeRasante]

Well, not exactly defending this, it is pretty bare-bones, but from what I recall the succession was already decided and what you said is exactly why the king said he needed a military victory, to get the personal support he would need to marry his daughter and be able to be given the crown with less issues.
Because we know there will be issues either way. This just helps minimize them.

 

[Bearil]

Well, not exactly defending this, it is pretty bare-bones, but from what I recall the succession was already decided and what you said is exactly why the king said he needed a military victory, to get the personal support he would need to marry his daughter and be able to be given the crown with less issues.
Because we know there will be issues either way. This just helps minimize them.

I know that the King stated that but expected him to take YEARS and more effort to do so to justify in a reasonable way for a mere peasant to be able to become the king. Im sure many nobles would think "he managed to finish the issue really quick, guess it wasnt that big of an issue after all..." or "he just got lucky on his first campaign" which begs then the question: Why some great generals didnt just became kings before once they had a great victory under their belts? I mean its justified right? Thats how ridiculous and contrived it felt.

That was the equivalent of doing a single good job after you started working and being ascended to your company's CEO just for that

 

[Simpleton]

Still the scene was a bit silly: Theres a reason why nobles even when corrupt are hard to get rid of. Not only they tend to have considerable influence, but is pressed enough can cause a civil war specially with a newcomer King that even neutral nobles might be unsure to follow or not yet

Would have been more reasonable to get rid either one by one or even in secret, being that aggresive will make those nobles fight like cornered rats because they have nothing to lose and even other nobles might become afraid of becoming "traitors" as well once the new King deems them no longer useful/necessary andstart plotting the "accidental demise" of the new King lest he decides to do more purges later

Right now the MC looks like a complete autocrat, no matter how good his intentions are

True, but he IS a complete autocrat, and no amount of sugarcoating can cover that up.

His current play is straight out of "The Prince" (by Machiavelli) - kill everyone who opposes you on day one, then be just and fair afterwards.
(The fear that you might kill traitors will remain, but new factions against you will be harder to create since any future rule will be just and according to law.)(So just make sure to be clear there will be no second purge - unless people manage to blatantly paint themselves as traitors by trying to assassinate the king..)

Meanwhile "assassinate them one by one" just creates a large class of assassins (and having an ongoing assassin fight can also easily spill over onto innocents - and much easier kill people close to him.)

 

[nonexistent696969]

long live the king !

 

[Coldlight]

Bold move to quickly ascend to the throne and start the civil war himself. Fortunately, that gives him the initiative in the coming conflict and possibly the element of surprise on his side. I like how decisive Almus is here. Having returned victorious from repelling an invasion, now as a war hero-turned-king he moves to consolidate his power and eliminate internal threats in the kingdom.

Smart move to use the triumphal procession to rally public support before making the big push, not to mention having the backing of the former king and marrying his daughter to further cement his position (for love too, that was a nice kiss... but Tetra is still best girl). Almus is making the most of his national popularity being at an all-time high to make these risky moves, he has the momentum going for him, so moving quickly was the right choice.

 

[Jekyk]

Bro really meant to said HARTA TAHTA WANITA lmao

 

[JoichiroNishi]

Still the scene was a bit silly: Theres a reason why nobles even when corrupt are hard to get rid of. Not only they tend to have considerable influence, but is pressed enough can cause a civil war specially with a newcomer King that even neutral nobles might be unsure to follow or not yet

Would have been more reasonable to get rid either one by one or even in secret, being that aggresive will make those nobles fight like cornered rats because they have nothing to lose and even other nobles might become afraid of becoming "traitors" as well once the new King deems them no longer useful/necessary andstart plotting the "accidental demise" of the new King lest he decides to do more purges later

Right now the MC looks like a complete autocrat, no matter how good his intentions are

This series is based on the late Iron Age (around 600-500 bc), the MC is an autocrat (he’s a king ffs). In this world, you don’t negotiate with your lessers (Spartacus, himself, was literally crucified despite waging several successful campaigns against Rome). Also, military prowess is much more convincing than how much grain you can extort from peasants in those days. Publicly executing a bunch of rowdy nobles is unlikely to stir the general populace in a negative direction.