Itsuka Fukushuu Suru Sono Tame ni - Ch. 37 - Bullying is something I'll never forgive for the rest of my life.

[esedo]

And I'll remind everyone that he had sex with her in every other chapter of that R18 version. The kind of sex you have when you're trying to have children.

Clearly he wasn't that affected by the stripping episode if he's willing to have sex with her, repeatedly. I don't know about you guys, but if someone sexually assaults me, I am not having sex with them out of my own volition.

I don't know why this gets fixated on-- it's exactly one occurrence in an extended bullying campaign, that doesn't even get alluded to in this version, even when he's flashing back to the bullying. It's as if you mean to imply the bully might have been "redeemable" if not for that event, as if the rest of the bullying he endured was chopped liver.

I don't think the majority of the R18 is canon. Ch 14 is maybe canon because it lines up with mc's suicide attempt and is titled "Flashback." That, and it's one of the less sexual chapters, even with the pantyshot and cleavage, though with how long it's been without even a mention, it's seeming less and less likely that it's canon.

Between the thumbtacks, spilled milk, writing mockery on his stuff, and sexual assault, I think the sexual assault is the easiest thing to point to when it comes to examples of how extreme femc's bullying was. Most of the bullying has been implied so far, with mc's revenge scheme and comments, and only Ch 14 of the R18 and Ch 26 being explicit to my memory. People just conceptualize one big incident rather than many incidents repeated over the course of years more readily.

 

[hinata2kill]

And yet, by the end of that story both the MC and FMC get together with people who bullied them in the past and get to have good life together. And they were not even in their 20's yet.
So no, your life is not ruined if you are 15 years old and still have a lot of time to fix everything. With proper support you can make it into truly fulfilling one after just a few years - especially if you find someone who can support you along the way.
I am not saying that it does not real, trauma and bad memories will be there. But saying that it is ruined and cannot be fixed is ridiculous.

Yes cause they both grew from said experiences. Both felt they needed to die both felt their life was over. In the story they both realized they messed up a lot. They felt as if they messed up their life at that point which drove them to suicidal thoughts. Yes they were able to “find a happy ending” but if the MC felt as though his life was forever. Hell we have two versions of the book an r18 version where he does revenge sex with a messed up mental and this version where he’s half schizophrenic. All by high school or middle school (idk how old he is) I would categorize that as a pretty fucked up life

 

[hinata2kill]

that's just a corny excuse to have sex

🧍🙏 you cannot mean that, deadass you cannot mean that 😭
On god please tell me you cannot mean that.

 

[Oobaka-san]

One thing, since I saw one or two people talking about the guy saying his life was ruined. From the original Japanese, I'm not really sure that's the best translation. More like she messed up his life, or she made a wreck of it. Key is, there's not so much implication of permanence. Like, his current life is a wreck because of what she did. Doesn't mean it'll be a wreck in ten years, or that it won't be, just that currently things are awful for him.

 

[Eighty-six]

🧍🙏 you cannot mean that, deadass you cannot mean that 😭
On god please tell me you cannot mean that.

...are you pulling my leg, here?

 

[hinata2kill]

...are you pulling my leg, here?

Are you???
Have you never seen documentaries or had a psyc class, seen any type of research.
Anything related to sexual trauma?!?!

 

[Eighty-six]

Are you???
Have you never seen documentaries or had a psyc class, seen any type of research.
Anything related to sexual trauma?!?!

I don't really care if you could find it in a textbook or paper. If that's even true, it's a corny excuse for sex... that happens to be recorded in textbooks and papers. A corny concept being represented in textbooks and papers doesn't automatically legitimize it-- just like how Freud's hypotheses weren't intrinsically legitimate before they stopped being considered the pinnacle of psychology.

 

[hinata2kill]

I don't really care if you could find it in a textbook or paper. If that's even true, it's a corny excuse for sex... that happens to be recorded in textbooks and papers. A corny concept being represented in textbooks and papers doesn't automatically legitimize it-- just like how Freud's hypotheses weren't intrinsically legitimate before they stopped being considered the pinnacle of psychology.

😭 ya know what. Ok yeah man. Do the thing u do

 

[Oobaka-san]

I don't really care if you could find it in a textbook or paper. If that's even true, it's a corny excuse for sex... that happens to be recorded in textbooks and papers. A corny concept being represented in textbooks and papers doesn't automatically legitimize it-- just like how Freud's hypotheses weren't intrinsically legitimate before they stopped being considered the pinnacle of psychology.

No, it is a thing. Do you have any idea how much hentai has been produced centered around the idea of assaulting and degrading the people that'd hurt the main character? Trust me, it's more than enough to make it clear that the viewers aren't watching it because it's an "excuse" for non-consensual activities. They watch it because they get a certain pleasure from imagining putting down the people that put them down. Sure, this one is unusual since the girl isn't against it at all, but then she's not against anything he's done in an effort to make her dependent toward him.

In short, just because you don't believe something's a thing doesn't make it any less real, and responding with a mocking dismissal and insistence that it's just a fantasy that people have done studies and dissertations on really doesn't manage to rebut anything, it just makes you look stubborn and kind of dumb.

 

[Eighty-six]

😭 ya know what. Ok yeah man. Do the thing u do

you might have a better chance at convincing me if you dispense with the exclamation points and emojis, and start speaking Playstation

Do you have any idea how much hentai--

Are.. are you trying to make a case that "revenge sex" is a serious thing because it exists in hentai? Despite the fact that the other guy was trying to claim that this thing exists in serious "textbooks" and "studies"?

Do I just have a metaphysical "pull my leg" sign posted on my back?

 

[hinata2kill]

No, it is a thing. Do you have any idea how much hentai has been produced centered around the idea of assaulting and degrading the people that'd hurt the main character? Trust me, it's more than enough to make it clear that the viewers aren't watching it because it's an "excuse" for non-consensual activities. They watch it because they get a certain pleasure from imagining putting down the people that put them down. Sure, this one is unusual since the girl isn't against it at all, but then she's not against anything he's done in an effort to make her dependent toward him.

In short, just because you don't believe something's a thing doesn't make it any less real, and responding with a mocking dismissal and insistence that it's just a fantasy that people have done studies and dissertations on really doesn't manage to rebut anything, it just makes you look stubborn and kind of dumb.

Don’t argue with people like that man they aren’t worth it

 

[buntbackspace]

And I'll remind everyone that he had sex with her in every other chapter of that R18 version. The kind of sex you have when you're trying to have children.

Clearly he wasn't that affected by the stripping episode if he's willing to have sex with her, repeatedly.

Not necessarily. Ruining someone's life with sex is relatively easy for the party who can't get pregnant. For example (actually multiple examples in one), making someone pregnant and walking away. Pregnancy is risky, childbirth is dangerous, and abortion is controversial. Pregnancy wrecks the body and messes with emotional states. Not to mention financial ruin from very high pregnancy+childbirth+childcare costs depending on which country you live in.

 

[kuShiNe]

From the early chapter titles I can already tell how much I hated this loser, but I'm not so sure now... Is.. is he actually changing? Actually growing up?

 

[unrikopan]

Honestly, while some may deride the protagonist. He's honestly realistic. How can you forgive someone who tormented you that long? How can you, after spending so long building this idea of revenge in your head, just let that go? You want the bully to stay the same, so you can make them have their comeuppance. That's the story.

But, he didn't get anything. He didn't get that satisfaction.

It's not fun, nor satisfying to get his revenge on her, because that's not his bully anymore. And she accepting his hatred is just another form of pity to him. He didn't get a "I got revenge on my bullies, and now my life is cool" moment, someone else did it for him, and he didn't even get to see the pleasure of seeing his bully get bullied in return. Another group of bullies got involved, left his life for years, and now his bully is remorseful, due no part of his.

He feels cheated out of his revenge, but can't bring himself to do anything about it, because neither he, nor his bully, are children anymore. The one he wants revenge on is that bully from his childhood, but that girl only exists in his memories.

THEN FUCKING CHANGE RIGHT NOW, MAKE THE BULLY STOP AND LOVE HER BECAUSE SHE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON NOW, IF THIS IS WHAT THE AUTHOR WANTS TO CONVEY, THE GUY SHOULDNT BE SO FUCKING STUCK ON THE PAST, ITS ALMOST COMPLETELY A DIFFERENT PERSON, AT LEAST IF YOU CANT STOP HATING HER LEAVE HER ALONE HOLY SHIT

 

[dienstagHD]

Is the author
COOKING????

 

[dienstagHD]

Honestly, while some may deride the protagonist. He's honestly realistic. How can you forgive someone who tormented you that long? How can you, after spending so long building this idea of revenge in your head, just let that go? You want the bully to stay the same, so you can make them have their comeuppance. That's the story.

But, he didn't get anything. He didn't get that satisfaction.

It's not fun, nor satisfying to get his revenge on her, because that's not his bully anymore. And she accepting his hatred is just another form of pity to him. He didn't get a "I got revenge on my bullies, and now my life is cool" moment, someone else did it for him, and he didn't even get to see the pleasure of seeing his bully get bullied in return. Another group of bullies got involved, left his life for years, and now his bully is remorseful, due no part of his.

He feels cheated out of his revenge, but can't bring himself to do anything about it, because neither he, nor his bully, are children anymore. The one he wants revenge on is that bully from his childhood, but that girl only exists in his memories.

Your words cut deeper than any blade 😭

 

[dienstagHD]

I feel like that plaster falling from mcs face is supposed to represent something
But I feel too fried to think about it
Maybe his wounds healing?