Kono Sankaku Love Come wa Shiawase ni Naru Gimu ga Aru.

[EigoRose]

In principle, of course, more and more nuanced tags would make it easier to find what you're looking for and not be disappointed. But that's only assuming that all works are tagged correctly. In practice it's of course not as easy as that. Mangadex could add more tags, but then you'd need to retag all the existing works, and the whole userbase would need to relearn what tags mean, what the new tags are, and there would most likely be thousands of cases of mistagging and/or misunderstood tags in the process, leading to tons of complaints and drama like what we've seen in this thread. I'm not saying no new tags should ever be changed or added, I'm just highlighting how any such decision will have far-reaching practical consequences that need to be considered.

Naturally, I had considered that.
I don't think it would be an overnight change but even now we have mistagged works so it's not going to be a problem that the users aren't already used to.
Just now we'll have less round holes to fit square pegs into.

 

[Machaka22]

So like, is it not okay to put bisexual people in a story? Are bisexual people traitors to gay/lesbian people? If what you wanna read is yuri, I get that you might not wanna read this one, but is it pathetic to write stories you don't like reading because of your sexual preferences?

Can't you read, I said lesbians, not bi or pan or other sexualities. I'm not against story which portraits bisexuals. They are plenty of GL story which has bisexuals and I read them because the story was about them falling in love with another woman, not a dude.
It doesn't interest me if it's about a het love story. She can be straight, bi, pan or whatever, if it's about the nième story of a guy falling in love with one or many women we plenty of that. Authors can write/draw whatever they want.

In my comment, I was precisely talking about lesbians, a character who is introduced as a lesbian, has zero sexual attraction towards men and are not looking to be in any romantic relationship with one.

The thing that is disgusting me is about authors who genuinely put a character who identify as a lesbian or someone who is only attract to women to fall in love with a man. Or worst, force/make them have a sexual intercourse with a man and make them realize that dicks are better than pussies. It just shows that they don't acknowledge lesbians/women who's only attract to other women. It's insulting. And based on the comments posted here about the manga and the light novel, the author is falling in that trope.

If you don't want your readers to misunderstand your characters/actions, make it clear since the beginning that she's questioning her sexuality or she's not so sure about it or has some tendencies to like some type of guy but never try to date one, etc... not making them turning magically bi, pan, straight for the sake of your story. I find it easy/lazy and insulting to some extend.

 

[dementati]

Can't you read, I said lesbians, not bi or pan or other sexualities. I'm not against story which portraits bisexuals. They are plenty of GL story which has bisexuals and I read them because the story was about them falling in love with another woman, not a dude.
It doesn't interest me if it's about a het love story. She can be straight, bi, pan or whatever, if it's about the nième story of a guy falling in love with one or many women we plenty of that. Authors can write/draw whatever they want.

In my comment, I was precisely talking about lesbians, a character who is introduced as a lesbian, has zero sexual attraction towards men and are not looking to be in any romantic relationship with one.

The thing that is disgusting me is about authors who genuinely put a character who identify as a lesbian or someone who is only attract to women to fall in love with a man. Or worst, force/make them have a sexual intercourse with a man and make them realize that dicks are better than pussies. It just shows that they don't acknowledge lesbians/women who's only attract to other women. It's insulting. And based on the comments posted here about the manga and the light novel, the author is falling in that trope.

If you don't want your readers to misunderstand your characters/actions, make it clear since the beginning that she's questioning her sexuality or she's not so sure about it or has some tendencies to like some type of guy but never try to date one, etc... not making them turning magically bi, pan, straight for the sake of your story. I find it easy/lazy and insulting to some extend.

But they're teenagers, maybe they don't initially question their sexuality, but start to later on? It does happen in real life. I mean, sometimes people who think they're heterosexual only realize they're not even way later in life. The author could make it super duper clear from the very start of the story that they're questioning their sexuality as a warning sign to any reader who absolutely does not want to read about any type of heterosexual relationship, but I don't think they're obliged to. I can see why you might find a story where a "lesbian" is "cured of their lesbianism with the power of dick" repulsive, but that is hardly this story, is it?

 

[Machaka22]

But they're teenagers, maybe they don't initially question their sexuality, but start to later on? It does happen in real life. I mean, sometimes people who think they're heterosexual only realize they're not even way later in life. The author could make it super duper clear from the very start of the story that they're questioning their sexuality as a warning sign to any reader who absolutely does not want to read about any type of heterosexual relationship, but I don't think they're obliged to. I can see why you might find a story where a "lesbian" is "cured of their lesbianism with the power of dick" repulsive, but that is hardly this story, is it?

They are also teenagers who are aware of their sexuality. It's more accurate now with all the good representations we have here and there (still not enough). Some question it others don't. I'm not saying that no one question it later on or don't discover other sexuality later in their lives.

I'm just asking the authors to be more honest with their representations. Putting a lesbian, a gay, someone who's invalid, someone who's homophobic or misogynistic will attract readers who identify as that or are interest to read a story about this kind of character. Some authors do a really bad representations of some community. Warn them before hurting them.

Concerning this manga, this is not a GL. The story is not center on the relationship between the two girls. I take a look at the first chapter and clearly this is not made for me or anyone who wants to read a love story between two women. And adding the GL as one of the main tag is bullshit.
And I'm not going to read the whole story because this doesn't interest me.
And I'm passing by that they are objectifying the two girls and by extension lesbian relationship. Having a lesbian in there is just a way to put some twist in the story and eventually make them fall in love with dude.
This shouldn't have the GL tag. Even other sites don't tag it as GL but as a romcom.

Putting the GL just because there are one lesbian who don't end up with the girl, mostly interact with the dude and even fall for him, is stupid.
This share the same energy with the seinen which are stupidly violent, have gore, sexual abuse and the GL tag.
I'm not saying they are the same but the way they use the lesbian character is the same. It's for the twist, have some "diversity" and eventually belittle her sexuality.

 

[dementati]

They are also teenagers who are aware of their sexuality. It's more accurate now with all the good representations we have here and there (still not enough). Some question it others don't. I'm not saying that no one question it later on or don't discover other sexuality later in their lives.

I'm just asking the authors to be more honest with their representations. Putting a lesbian, a gay, someone who's invalid, someone who's homophobic or misogynistic will attract readers who identify as that or are interest to read a story about this kind of character. Some authors do a really bad representations of some community. Warn them before hurting them.

Concerning this manga, this is not a GL. The story is not center on the relationship between the two girls. I take a look at the first chapter and clearly this is not made for me or anyone who wants to read a love story between two women. And adding the GL as one of the main tag is bullshit.
And I'm not going to read the whole story because this doesn't interest me.
And I'm passing by that they are objectifying the two girls and by extension lesbian relationship. Having a lesbian in there is just a way to put some twist in the story and eventually make them fall in love with dude.
This shouldn't have the GL tag. Even other sites don't tag it as GL but as a romcom.

Putting the GL just because there are one lesbian who don't end up with the girl, mostly interact with the dude and even fall for him, is stupid.
This share the same energy with the seinen which are stupidly violent, have gore, sexual abuse and the GL tag.
I'm not saying they are the same but the way they use the lesbian character is the same. It's for the twist, have some "diversity" and eventually belittle her sexuality.

If the main purpose of the GL tag is to guide people who want to read purely lesbian love stories with no elements of bisexuality or otherwise, then I agree that the tag is misused. But there are elements of romance between two girls in this story, whether it's to your taste or not. The ideal solution would be to have more nuanced tags, not everyone can be satisfied unless more tags are added.

In this case I don't think it's the fault of the author, because they aren't the ones who put the MDX tag on this manga. They did nothing to trick people who want pure yuri into reading their manga. And I don't think there's anything morally wrong with writing a story where a character initially thinks they are purely lesbian but later figure out that they are bi. Or that represents a polyamorous relationship between two girls and one guy. It would be great if people who don't want to read such a story, such as yourself, were able to find out what kind of story it is before having to dig into it, and I support improving such measures, such as adding more nuanced tags.

 

[Machaka22]

If the main purpose of the GL tag is to guide people who want to read purely lesbian love stories with no elements of bisexuality or otherwise, then I agree that the tag is misused. But there are elements of romance between two girls in this story, whether it's to your taste or not. The ideal solution would be to have more nuanced tags, not everyone can be satisfied unless more tags are added.

In this case I don't think it's the fault of the author, because they aren't the ones who put the MDX tag on this manga. They did nothing to trick people who want pure yuri into reading their manga. And I don't think there's anything morally wrong with writing a story where a character initially thinks they are purely lesbian but later figure out that they are bi. Or that represents a polyamorous relationship between two girls and one guy. It would be great if people who don't want to read such a story, such as yourself, were able to find out what kind of story it is before having to dig into it, and I support improving such measures, such as adding more nuanced tags.

I agree with you, the tag system in mangadex is perfectible. They should add sub-tags along with main tags. For example, in this case the GL tag should be in the sub-tag and romance and comedy remain the main tags.

Dynasty Scan have plenty of tags to better describe a story. If this manga was post there it would have the Yuri tag, maybe subtext, bisexual tag, the het tag and poly tag along with other tags. With those you know exactly in what kind of story you are going into.

 

[RedNanaki]

Dam everyone mad is not pure girls love lmao

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

Oh God, authors who puts lesbians in their story just to make them fall in love or have sex with their male MC are just pathetic.

And their argument :
"She's a lesbian because she didn't found the perfect MALE/D!ck to go with her." They are making people sick.

Did you even fucking read it?

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

This is so dumb, when you put a tag for something people would generally think that tag would apply. If it's not Yuri then don't put a Yuri tag. If the girls just show small subtle hints of attraction and nothing more then don't put any Yuri tags.

So the mods messed up. Fucking move on already instead of raging about it in the comments and review bombing it.

 

[tunajuices]

with the tagging...i knew this will be a bad end for the guy...i wish im wrong. either he will end up with the girl black hair or 2 girl ending up together...both bad end for him...

 

[Machaka22]

Did you even fucking read it?

No, and I will never do it.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

No, and I will never do it.

Then stfu.

 

[Machaka22]

Then stfu.

No. This manga is bullshit and it shouldn't have the GL tag, the review bombing is totally deserved. Stay mad

 

[Metalheadzaid]

Since I started reading manga I realized that people are real fuckin' stupid about tags. They're just themes inside the story. GL makes sense because there's literally a girl in love with another girl in it and it's a major plot point. How else do we show the fact that it's a part of the story to people looking for content? Sorry not every GL tag is your imaginary version of it where only fluffy GL things happen? I don't get it.

If anything what we should have are THEMES and TAGS then, to alleviate this whining group. I wouldn't mind this personally though, because how can you tell if an isekai just has a romantic interest vs one that focuses on it in some of the action oriented ones (the tags are the same either way) for example.

 

[a_other_alt]

Damn, weebs aren't beating the "dumbest lifeform on Earth" allegations.
Still doesn't beat the Seton thread though.

 

[Amazing_Retard]

No. This manga is bullshit and it shouldn't have the GL tag, the review bombing is totally deserved. Stay mad

"Stay mad". The projection is real 😂

 

[leviadragon]

I respect the energy that the lead dude eventually settles into of "I want zero part of the drama, I'ma just be a wingman."

 

[0moshiroi]

Oh look i found the perfect meme for this thread

In all seriousness though this drama wouldn't even have started if some moderator just removed the girls love tag already

There's no gl/yuri tag on the official raws so...

 

[YuriLover009]

Yoooo wth was the author smoking to write that ending. It seems like they all treat romance as a platonic thing even tho Rinka literally dreamed of doing erotic stuff with Leila. And if the love isnt platonic then basically the dude just got a harem where the girls get along with each other. GL my arse this had bisexual vibes from the get go and throughout the chapters. Apparently you can fall in love with 2 ppl at once and isnt judged to be a scum in the authors mind. Definitely not for normal ppl nor is it for comedic relief 1/10. Still felt a bit entertained at the interactions. But the ending made it drop to the floor

 

[Amazing_Retard]

Mediocre manga, I announce it's around 7-8 rating. Nothing controversial to make it 6 in rating except yuri fans malding it had yuri tag(they have male phobia if it even exist)the existence of male just disgust and scares them for some reason.
Thanks for the one managing for keeping yuri tag because it is.