Kuro no Senki II - Isekai Teni Shita Boku ga Saikyou na no wa Bed no Ue dake no You desu - Vol. 2 Ch. 8.3

[MangaDex]

 

[Qwertybluefist]

bro casually stopped time so he could dance with his girl a little longer, i fw that

 

[LunaticOverlord]

So...how does he plan to deal with Philip and Elena's uncle?
I mean, after pulling something like THAT on a psychotic incl, he doesn't expect Philip to just walk away, right?

Not to mention that what these two pulled can't just be IGNORED. If anything, refusing to deal with them makes him an accomplice by inaction. Isn't he supposed to hold onto modern Japanese standards? What parts of Japan would say "piss off the psychotic incl and call it a day"?

 

[popo53414]

time stop makes room many more things than dancing

 

[R0dr1g0-Shin]

MC can have some touch-and-go moments, but... Gigachad

 

[ElectroSlam]

Do you think gds will ever go back and do those last couple of chapters from the first series? Or are they just like “Nah we’re done with this now.”

 

[Morose]

So...how does he plan to deal with Philip and Elena's uncle?
I mean, after pulling something like THAT on a psychotic incl, he doesn't expect Philip to just walk away, right?

Not to mention that what these two pulled can't just be IGNORED. If anything, refusing to deal with them makes him an accomplice by inaction. Isn't he supposed to hold onto modern Japanese standards? What parts of Japan would say "piss off the psychotic incl and call it a day"?

What would MC's "modern Japanese standards" do in a situation like this?

He doesn't have any proof on what those two did to Elena, and officially she has been declared dead and there is no one to testify it's false, unless her mother is still alive somehow and isn't part of their plan and could testify.

Even if the situation because where the truth is revealed, Elena's current position is that of a Slave, so for the Noble Society of that World, her value is less than that of even a Commoner (though probably higher than a Demi-Human), considering how they treat people around.

So, unless Philip and Elena's Uncle directly target MC, there is no way he could do anything against them, especially since he doesn't even has any personal issues with them.

I mean, if MC has the status of a Marquis and an Army Commander, he is still considered to be a Lower Noble from a New Noble Family.
On the other-hand, Philip is an Imperial Knight, meaning he is a Higher Noble, and Elena's Uncle is probably also equal or higher in rank than MC.
So, balance of power is also not right for MC to do anything directly or even indirectly, unless they come at him first.

 

[whydidireadthis]

has he done to deed with her yet or are about to get that for the first time?

 

[Romisterie]

Meanwhile after the time stop cease guests would be confused why they teleport

 

[LunaticOverlord]

What would MC's "modern Japanese standards" do in a situation like this?

He doesn't have any proof on what those two did to Elena, and officially she has been declared dead and there is no one to testify it's false, unless her mother is still alive somehow and isn't part of their plan and could testify.

Even if the situation because where the truth is revealed, Elena's current position is that of a Slave, so for the Noble Society of that World, her value is less than that of even a Commoner (though probably higher than a Demi-Human), considering how they treat people around.

So, unless Philip and Elena's Uncle directly target MC, there is no way he could do anything against them, especially since he doesn't even has any personal issues with them.

I mean, if MC has the status of a Marquis and an Army Commander, he is still considered to be a Lower Noble from a New Noble Family.
On the other-hand, Philip is an Imperial Knight, meaning he is a Higher Noble, and Elena's Uncle is probably also equal or higher in rank than MC.
So, balance of power is also not right for MC to do anything directly or even indirectly, unless they come at him first.

Yet he acts so boldly with the PRINCESS? Double standards, much?
The least he could do is inform the princess of what he heard Philip say.

So you're saying that he just lets a BLATANT SIGN OF CORRUPTION fester within the empire?
Some hero he is.

 

[chojinra]

Well, someone's getting banged out tonight...

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the update

 

[LunaticOverlord]

What would MC's "modern Japanese standards" do in a situation like this?

He doesn't have any proof on what those two did to Elena, and officially she has been declared dead and there is no one to testify it's false, unless her mother is still alive somehow and isn't part of their plan and could testify.

Even if the situation because where the truth is revealed, Elena's current position is that of a Slave, so for the Noble Society of that World, her value is less than that of even a Commoner (though probably higher than a Demi-Human), considering how they treat people around.

So, unless Philip and Elena's Uncle directly target MC, there is no way he could do anything against them, especially since he doesn't even has any personal issues with them.

I mean, if MC has the status of a Marquis and an Army Commander, he is still considered to be a Lower Noble from a New Noble Family.
On the other-hand, Philip is an Imperial Knight, meaning he is a Higher Noble, and Elena's Uncle is probably also equal or higher in rank than MC.
So, balance of power is also not right for MC to do anything directly or even indirectly, unless they come at him first.

I skimmed through the raws and Elena has no more scenes after this so is this where her arc ends? With her master publicly harassing her and admonishing her for wanting to do something regarding what is a BLATANT PROOF of corruption within the empire that he'll let fester?

 

[Morose]

I skimmed through the raws and Elena has no more scenes after this so is this where her arc ends? With her master publicly harassing her and admonishing her for wanting to do something regarding what is a BLATANT PROOF of corruption within the empire that he'll let fester?

Well, LN plot wise, the Manga is currently covering Vol.4 (this is based on the Manga Raws).
And there are a total of 14 volumes released so far for the LN in Japan.
So a lot of plot is there in the story.

For the Corruption stuff, can you really do anything about it unless you are at the very top, and this applies to MC as well (currently he is at the very bottom of Nobility, even if he rules a land).

Elena on the other hand didn't want to fight the Corruption. She just wanted revenge for what those two had done to her.
And in doing so she would have gotten executed.
I mean, if you saw the raws, then you should know what happens to a lower class person (like Demi-Human or Slave) if they hurt a High Ranking Noble (Chapter 15 & 16 raws shows that).

 

[Morose]

Yet he acts so boldly with the PRINCESS? Double standards, much?
The least he could do is inform the princess of what he heard Philip say.

So you're saying that he just lets a BLATANT SIGN OF CORRUPTION fester within the empire?
Some hero he is.

And?
Even if he informs her, what would she do without proof when officially Elena the Noble is dead, and there is no one to prove who she is.

Princess clearly knows there is heavy corruption, and she even took MC's help to take down a remote land Noble for doing that (in Part 1 of this Series). But even she has limitations.

Plus, the corruption here is mainly internal, aka., within Elena's family.
Elena's Uncle got her Father killed, then with Philip plotted a Bandit attack on her house and got her kidnapped and sold as slave and orchestrated a situation of proving that the real one is dead by killing a maid who looks similar to Elena (also speculated that her mother is also killed by them, but no proof yet). All this was done so that the Uncle could take over the family property which was meant to go to Elena.

So, this isn't something that affects the nation, for the Princess to act on (as Elena's Uncle wasn't embezzling tax money which would affect the nation).

In the end, everyone looks out for themselves when it comes to Politics (be past or modern), and unless there is some benefit no one acts on a obvious issue.

 

[LunaticOverlord]

Well, LN plot wise, the Manga is currently covering Vol.4 (this is based on the Manga Raws).
And there are a total of 14 volumes released so far for the LN in Japan.
So a lot of plot is there in the story.

For the Corruption stuff, can you really do anything about it unless you are at the very top, and this applies to MC as well (currently he is at the very bottom of Nobility, even if he rules a land).

Elena on the other hand didn't want to fight the Corruption. She just wanted revenge for what those two had done to her.
And in doing so she would have gotten executed.
I mean, if you saw the raws, then you should know what happens to a lower class person (like Demi-Human or Slave) if they hurt a High Ranking Noble (Chapter 15 & 16 raws shows that).

While she didn't openly FIGHT the corruption, the way you put it, dealing with Philip means going up against an aspect of said corruption.

And since she has no scenes in the raws I saw (and since I can't read Japanese, I only understand what I see, which is why that part in 15/16 went over my head (or I simply never READ 15/16 yet), it just looks like her character arc ends with her being essentially told "shut up and suck me off while doing my taxes". No closure, be it satisfaction or moving on, just put in her place without agency. That's a terrible way to end a character arc.

 

[LunaticOverlord]

And?
Even if he informs her, what would she do without proof when officially Elena the Noble is dead, and there is no one to prove who she is.

Princess clearly knows there is heavy corruption, and she even took MC's help to take down a remote land Noble for doing that (in Part 1 of this Series). But even she has limitations.

Plus, the corruption here is mainly internal, aka., within Elena's family.
Elena's Uncle got her Father killed, then with Philip plotted a Bandit attack on her house and got her kidnapped and sold as slave and orchestrated a situation of proving that the real one is dead by killing a maid who looks similar to Elena (also speculated that her mother is also killed by them, but no proof yet). All this was done so that the Uncle could take over the family property which was meant to go to Elena.

So, this isn't something that affects the nation, for the Princess to act on (as Elena's Uncle wasn't embezzling tax money which would affect the nation).

In the end, everyone looks out for themselves when it comes to Politics (be past or modern), and unless there is some benefit no one acts on a obvious issue.

And this is why I prefer vicious sadistic revengers over sleazy hypocrites. At least they get shit done.
Naofumi had the merit of not being a hypocrite. He hates the way the innocent are treated and treats his slave well.
While Kurono here openly does stuff that he KNOWS his slave hates, even while trying to look like he has the moral high ground.
Say what you will about Keyaru, but at least he makes it clear that revenge is his main motivation, with other stuff coming second, at least at first.

 

[Morose]

While she didn't openly FIGHT the corruption, the way you put it, dealing with Philip means going up against an aspect of said corruption.

And since she has no scenes in the raws I saw (and since I can't read Japanese, I only understand what I see, which is why that part in 15/16 went over my head (or I simply never READ 15/16 yet), it just looks like her character arc ends with her being essentially told "shut up and suck me off while doing my taxes". No closure, be it satisfaction or moving on, just put in her place without agency. That's a terrible way to end a character arc.

"If" the character arc really ended at that point.

There have been many stories were character arcs are split over multiple chapters at varying point of the story plot.

Currently focus on Elena isn't important, and her plot had been halted, it's just that.

Plus she failed in killing Philip, what else can she do?

And like I have been saying MC's current position doesn't allow him to easily take action against him without any possible cause.

In the previous case (in Part 1), MC only took action against a Noble, because the Princess had ordered him to do so, plus that Noble had caused him heavy losses during the War MC fought.

Here, Philip hadn't caused anything to MC yet, and whatever happened with Elena is past event and her personal revenge.

Heck one can say that MC showing off Elena in such an vulnerable state, to an egoistic person like Philip is more damaging than you would expect to that guy (though MC was also baiting to get Philip to take action against him so that he could beat him up with cause, but Philip was intelligent enough to back-off quickly and not fall for MC's trap).

 

[BlackAeronaut]

And this is why I prefer vicious sadistic revengers over sleazy hypocrites.

Unfortunately for you, this isn't that kind of story. In fact, it has a lot more in common with Risou no Himo Seikatsu, only instead of starting at the very top as the queen's consort, MC has to work his way up from the bottom as the adopted son of one of the lowest-ranked nobles in the kingdom.

(I love the part in that story where the queen is apologizing to the MC for breaking her promise of keeping him from getting caught up in their politics, and then he cheerfully tells her that it's fine - he knew that was a promise that she wasn't going to be able to keep at all. The queen's shocked expression was absolutely priceless.)

Also, I don't like most of those revenge-porn stories because a lot of them completely gloss over the consequences of the MC's actions. Where as with stories like this one? It's all about the consequences.

Sorry, but if that's not to your liking, then you may wanna just drop this title and find something else.

 

[Morose]

And this is why I prefer vicious sadistic revengers over sleazy hypocrites. At least they get shit done.
Naofumi had the merit of not being a hypocrite. He hates the way the innocent are treated and treats his slave well.
While Kurono here openly does stuff that he KNOWS his slave hates, even while trying to look like he has the moral high ground.
Say what you will about Keyaru, but at least he makes it clear that revenge is his main motivation, with other stuff coming second, at least at first.

The situation between Naofumi, Keyaru & Kurono is quite different.

Naofumi was betrayed, so he doesn't trust anyone and does thing himself.
Plus you have to remember that, until the Queen took over control over the situation, Naofumi had a lot of trouble because of someone being in a lower political power position.

Keyaru was betrayed and exploited in such a way that it broken him mentally, leaving him with nothing but revenge in his mind.

On the other hand Kurono was suddenly got sent to this world as a young kid, and ended up being taken cared and adopted by his Dad (apparently he was suddenly sent there 4-5 years before the plot of the story started).

He never claimed to be a righteous person, but does try to help out in his own way to people who are exploited, especially the Demi-Humans. And he never was big on moral, as if he did he would have surrender to the Army attacking his land as that would have saved lives. Nor would be had slept with Layla or the Madam.

He is more rough towards Elena because she is a bit hard to control otherwise (since she is a bit of Hardcore Tsundere type).