Kuso Onna ni Sachiare - Ch. 94

[MangaDex]

 

[Knighto]

to the surprise of nobody, author is never subtle at all hahaha.
Still good for her to express what she actually feels, even if she feels it's wrong, it will help her with the healing.

 

[Nobi]

Nobody is going to tell her how wrong she is?

 

[DMan_chine]

This pretty much confirms what I thought of Lemon. She just wants to keep the current status quo, too afraid to do anything, and it's only when things around her change that she changes. She didn't share any of her feelings until someone basically forced her to do it. It's REALLY infuriating to see such a lazy person get so much credit. She's doing nothing until she's put on the spot to act.

Now, I totally understand why she's like this. It has happened to me and sometimes still does, and it is likely why I dislike it so much. You get nothing right out of this and it only hurts the people around because they have to constantly pull stuff out of you. Imagine Lemon like this on a relationship, where Sunao has to constantly ask her to do things or work on their relationship. Now, Sunao is not a saint or the perfect man... but when you compare Lemon and Kogahara, Lemon is such a bore. DO SOMETHING, WOMAN! DO IT YOURSELF!

Edit Adendum: the only times we have seen Lemon act by herself or plan to act by herself is when she's going to do something that's self-sabotaging. When she told him she's cheating on him, when she broke up, and now she's planning to confess just to get rejected. This isn't someone who's trying to be Altruistic, this is a self-destructing person who is also dragging with her the people she cares and loves. I hope people learn from Lemon's mistakes; this NOT how you should be acting.

 

[yourmanzstan]

This pretty much confirms what I thought of Lemon. She just wants to keep the current status quo, too afraid to do anything, and it's only when things around her change that she changes. She didn't share any of her feelings until someone basically forced her to do it. It's REALLY infuriating to see such a lazy person get so much credit. She's doing nothing until she's put on the spot to act.

Now, I totally understand why she's like this. It has happened to me and sometimes still does, and it is likely why I dislike it so much. You get nothing right out of this and it only hurts the people around because they have to constantly pull stuff out of you. Imagine Lemon like this on a relationship, where Sunao has to constantly ask her to do things or work on their relationship. Now, Sunao is not a saint or the perfect man... but when you compare Lemon and Kogahara, Lemon is such a bore. DO SOMETHING, WOMAN! DO IT YOURSELF!

Edit Adendum: the only times we have seen Lemon act by herself or plan to act by herself is when she's going to do something that's self-sabotaging. When she told him she's cheating on him, when she broke up, and now she's planning to confess just to get rejected. This isn't someone who's trying to be Altruistic, this is a self-destructing person who is also dragging with her the people she cares and loves. I hope people learn from Lemon's mistakes; this NOT how you should be acting.

Exactly. I’d reward this comment if I could. In this very chapter it’s basically yanked out of her by her friends. Then even earlier by Kogahara. Both times lying would’ve made no sense because they already know the truth. As much as it’s growth it’s also more of the same thing. Unless she’s being forced she’s going to take the easier route as soon as she can. That route was simple cut off both of the times I mentioned. Yet I think it’s pretty obvious she’s going to “win”. In quotations because I don’t see Sunao as much of a win if I’m being honest.

 

[misopogon]

This pretty much confirms what I thought of Lemon. She just wants to keep the current status quo, too afraid to do anything, and it's only when things around her change that she changes. She didn't share any of her feelings until someone basically forced her to do it. It's REALLY infuriating to see such a lazy person get so much credit. She's doing nothing until she's put on the spot to act.

Now, I totally understand why she's like this. It has happened to me and sometimes still does, and it is likely why I dislike it so much. You get nothing right out of this and it only hurts the people around because they have to constantly pull stuff out of you. Imagine Lemon like this on a relationship, where Sunao has to constantly ask her to do things or work on their relationship. Now, Sunao is not a saint or the perfect man... but when you compare Lemon and Kogahara, Lemon is such a bore. DO SOMETHING, WOMAN! DO IT YOURSELF!

Edit Adendum: the only times we have seen Lemon act by herself or plan to act by herself is when she's going to do something that's self-sabotaging. When she told him she's cheating on him, when she broke up, and now she's planning to confess just to get rejected. This isn't someone who's trying to be Altruistic, this is a self-destructing person who is also dragging with her the people she cares and loves. I hope people learn from Lemon's mistakes; this NOT how you should be acting.

Yeah, while Lemon grapples with her complicated circumstances, Kogahara has definitely been the very model of decisiveness

 

[endless]

I think Sunao just needs to tell Lemon how the whole breakup thing hurts him and change the way he sees her. And while that he doesn't hate her now, he just can't see her as a potential romantic partner.

 

[Remissio]

Lol. It does get a little grating to me. Seeing the Fumble consequences finaly seemingly catching up. I honestly really wish theyd just have a proper confrontation about things. Not even just lemon and Sunao but also the besties here. Like he kinda glossed over it real quick but I feel it'd have been so interesting to see how he tackles the fact he fell in love with Sunao in Lemons body lol. There's a lot that could have been done with that if the characters had a bit more personality and quirkiness, but everyone just feels so mundane but not in a magical realism manner just mundane.

I really need Lemon to understand and talk to Sunao about how that "I cheated on you with a bunch guys" moment actually affected them. We got to see a flashback we kinda glossed over it also with Sunao saying he knew it was probably a lie, but they need to properly address it like: "even if it was a lie, the fact you pushed me away when I wanted to be with you and made such a big lie to cut ties before proceeding to never try making contact again for years did affect [Sunao]" like there were other ways they could have tried tackling things and if Kogahara and co also knew about this it'd be a lot more like able to progress things cuz as outsiders looking in all they seem to know is: "they were together, they broke up," But like legitimately the author wrote themselves into a corner with the inciting incident cuz they have to avoid bringing it up to other people in the friend group and such because even if in hindsight it was clearly a lie, no one is going to logically take the side of someone saying "I cheated with a bunch peeps let's break up" logically unless they're a huge simp.

 

[Ecclectic_Moose]

Nobody is going to tell her how wrong she is?

I'm not sure she is wrong. Sunao's noticed she likes him, but we haven't seen any confirmation that he reciprocates, while we do have that evidence for Kogahara.

 

[Georgesmorge]

I'm not sure she is wrong. Sunao's noticed she likes him, but we haven't seen any confirmation that he reciprocates, while we do have that evidence for Kogahara.

I think the fact that he feels conflicted when he gets the chance to advance his relationship with Kogahara kinda signals that he has feelings for Lemon in some form.

 

[NutzYaboku77]

If lemons loses ima kms.

 

[Yuyuin]

"Lemon you are a really good person" Lmao just beating us over the head with it. No author I still don't like Lemon this won't work on me.

 

[yourmanzstan]

I think the fact that he feels conflicted when he gets the chance to advance his relationship with Kogahara kinda signals that he has feelings for Lemon in some form.

This is definitely one angle and I would have more stock in if the two girls weren't friends. I can relate to being scared to potentially hurt or fracture a friendship because both like you. Sunao really does need to decide though cause this back and forth is honestly getting old.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

If lemons loses ima kms.

Start brushing up on you survival skills for when you wake up in the next world then.

 

[TestAddress]

Good art, though.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

As a lemon supporter the copium reserves are starting to run a little thin...

 

[middle-the-nerd]

I'm not sure she is wrong. Sunao's noticed she likes him, but we haven't seen any confirmation that he reciprocates, while we do have that evidence for Kogahara.

Imo showing how conflicted he is makes it very likely his feelings aren't completely platonic it's just something he's only recently starting to come to terms with and sort through

If lemons loses ima kms.

You and me both...suicide pact?

 

[DMan_chine]

Exactly. I’d reward this comment if I could. In this very chapter it’s basically yanked out of her by her friends. Then even earlier by Kogahara. Both times lying would’ve made no sense because they already know the truth. As much as it’s growth it’s also more of the same thing. Unless she’s being forced she’s going to take the easier route as soon as she can. That route was simple cut off both of the times I mentioned. Yet I think it’s pretty obvious she’s going to “win”. In quotations because I don’t see Sunao as much of a win if I’m being honest.

I mean Sunao is... I dunno. I think he needs to move on from what happened years ago. It's clear it affected him a lot, so much so he was afraid of opening up to people. I have been criticizing how little trust Lemon put on him, and that clearly pushed it over the edge at the end, even if that's not what he consciously got from the event. He's pretty mediocre (not necessarily a bad thing, just average guy). That's just typical guy behavior from romance manga. He does things and is active, but we don't see him do THAT much. I guess, the point is that people that like him, just like him because of his personality, not that he's an amazing guy... as well, the girls aren't that incredible either. They are just people. I guess, what I would say about Sunao is that he's hesitant, he doesn't know what to do, and ends up always choosing the middle ground, which doesn't push him forward or back, he sort of takes the place that causes him the least trouble. Kogahara kind of does the same thing, but that's more out of inexperience, Sunao is just afraid to truly commit.

 

[DMan_chine]

Yeah, while Lemon grapples with her complicated circumstances, Kogahara has definitely been the very model of decisiveness

Lemon's circumstance are of her own making. The whole switching is just added on top, which is FORCING her to engage with them. Which means he wouldn't have done anything without it.

Kogahara isn't a model human, at all. She hesitates to comit, and she finally does take a step forward she takes two steps back out of fear.

The difference between the two is Lemon did all of this to herself, and still isn't engaging with it UNLESS forced to do so. Kogahara has yet to make a mess out of her life by her choosing, and while she's fucking things out, she's doing things.

I am not here to glaze Kogahara and shit on Lemon, these are words of caution. Lemon has fucked up her life because she is self-destructing, and has not taken steps to make it better. Don't be like Lemon. The manga seems to be, thus far, hinting at rewarding a person who hasn't made the effort. Life isn't like that. People will get tired of people who are to be constantly lifted to act, people will get tired of them. If you can reform yourself, you must act. Lemon isn't depressed, she doesn't need external help, she's inwardly conflicted and hateful of herself, that much is obvious. She needs to work on herself.

Edit: I want to add that Lemon isn't a bad person. I hope people do not misunderstand this. She clearly cares for others and why she chooses to hurt self instead of others. The problem is her choises are self-destructive, and when you have loved ones, those choices also hurt them. Lemon isn't a bad person, she just makes the wrong choices out of self-hatred, she's not depressed either. She is inwardly conflicted, self-hateful, and has yet to forgive herself.

 

[Umbrum]

They’ve never told the friends about why they broke up right?

It’s prob best that way, I bet Raita would say something like “that was clearly a lie” and get mad at Sunao, don’t need war in the comments lol.