Mada Kimi wo Miageteru - Ch. 7 - I'm Still Full of Lingering Regrets Even Now

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I feel bad for this guy. First, he was cucked, and now he will only be a replacement for that girl's husband

How in the blazes was he "cucked"?

Not every relationship works out, and we don't yet know how they even split ways, in the first place.
Calling him a mere replacement is an insult to them both and to the story being told.

I feel like all this "second-choice" talk is entirely because it's the woman who lost a spouse. I'd bet money none of the people bemoaning the dynamic between them would be saying the same thing if Otakei lost a wife and Tsubaki were the single one.

There's so much more at play in the overall narrative that the continued focus on that getting hung up on that singular detail starts feeling like readers betraying that they can't handle a complex relationship.
 
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I imagine the author wants to go down the route of they're similar but it'll come off as rebounding in real life. It's just not really a fun scenario to read if it goes down that route it'll be pretty depressing because it'll feel like she just wants her true love back, maybe it'll not go that way a we will see that her deceased husband was a very different person with a different personality but if they appear as very similar people I would feel really bad for the protagonist.

Hope that if it does go down the romance route it establishes her husband was a very different man and they may overlap in ways that comfort her but he clearly is too different to be a replacement. Or even better if they don't go down the romance route and show off a supportive relationship where he helps her mourn and she helps him go for his dreams without the end game being oh they fuck.
 
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Looking at these comments and rereading this chapter it made me think how this is one of the weirdest romance mangas ever written I dont want to beat a dead horse but it really does feel cuckish: like an amalgamation of cheating and cucking. instead of the what you expect from a romance manga where the male lead and female lead get to know each other and eventually learn to love each other later down the line its the female lead sulking over a dead ex and the male lead likes the female lead but she doesnt shes still not over her ex and the male lead is a cope for her ex. It feels like cheating on the deceased husbands part because his life was taken away from him and she sees male mc as him and it feels like cucking because female mc is just seeing her deceased husband in male mc she doesnt like him its just a cope for her. now i know it makes sense since cuz shes drunk and all but im viewing it from a meta-perspective, like im placed in the author shoes and im making writing decisions anyway it does intrigue me to keep reading this and i like the fan service too, thank you for the translation
You should put down the NTR porn for a bit.

Real life is actually very complex when it comes to relationships and this isn't even that out of pocket, even in fiction. Tsubaki is grieving her lost relationship when she stumbled into someone she knew and was fairly close to in high school, only to find that Otakei is also at a crossroads in his life as he drifts through the days lamenting his failure at becoming a full-on mangaka. They both have heavy weights they're carrying, and have been struggling along each on their own (as it would seem) before running into one another after years of separate paths.

This is more than just a romance story, and they're both adults and not school kids. The themes are grief and overcoming that grief, and they take different forms for the two main characters--Otakei with his failed author career, and Tsubaki with the death of her husband and the apparent tension with her former in-laws, and both of them are rather aimless at the present--but are both now in the process of taking steps toward the future again.

They were close before, and that point of connection along with circumstances has them reentering one another's orbit. Of course things are different in the present, but you're reaching a lot in saying Tsubaki is using Otakei as "cope" over her dead husband. He's not "her second choice", any more than he's owed a relationship with her. They're two people who have gone and are going through shit, and this will be a story of seeing where and when and how they persevere through it and overcome the obstacles before them.
 
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I wonder if it's A) She's directly responsible, B) She's indirectly responsible, or C) She's in no way responsible, but since they were married, the family still blames her because she's an easy target (and the sister because she "took away" her brother) :thonk:

Usual trope would probably be C, maybe B :thonk:
 
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This manga is quite intriguing for me, and I support this manga 😄. I kinda feel bad about the girl, she's strong, but she has her limits and she needs to cope.
 
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I can already see where this is going.. Certainly not a fan of this type of story but I don't want to be troubled by any of that and will probably stay just for the artstyle (and the plot you know lah). Really hope they could reconcile with their own past and make out even though its near impossible since a rose shall never bloom upon the reef's resilience. Peace twinium✌✌💥
 
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Some of the comments here are really immature. Tsubaki had a husband and she lost him, not a fling with a random that didn't work out. Of course she going to be grieving and that grief can take many forms. Being around a familiar face that doesn't know all your baggage can be a blessing, it's an escape for her. Whether that turns physical or not is yet to be seen and while I don't think it will just yet, they're both adults who know the score.

Otakei isn't being used, he's aware that she lost her husband, and acts accordingly.Tsubaki gave him the push he needed to try writing again, great but it’s more complex than that. They're both at a crossroad in their lives of course there's going to be some bumps along the way.
 
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You see, this is a manga so it can work because it is fiction. But the parallel to the real life is too strong in this chapter for me to handle.


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You should put down the NTR porn for a bit.

Real life is actually very complex when it comes to relationships and this isn't even that out of pocket, even in fiction. Tsubaki is grieving her lost relationship when she stumbled into someone she knew and was fairly close to in high school, only to find that Otakei is also at a crossroads in his life as he drifts through the days lamenting his failure at becoming a full-on mangaka. They both have heavy weights they're carrying, and have been struggling along each on their own (as it would seem) before running into one another after years of separate paths.

This is more than just a romance story, and they're both adults and not school kids. The themes are grief and overcoming that grief, and they take different forms for the two main characters--Otakei with his failed author career, and Tsubaki with the death of her husband and the apparent tension with her former in-laws, and both of them are rather aimless at the present--but are both now in the process of taking steps toward the future again.

They were close before, and that point of connection along with circumstances has them reentering one another's orbit. Of course things are different in the present, but you're reaching a lot in saying Tsubaki is using Otakei as "cope" over her dead husband. He's not "her second choice", any more than he's owed a relationship with her. They're two people who have gone and are going through shit, and this will be a story of seeing where and when and how they persevere through it and overcome the obstacles before them.
I dont deny that there is elements of grief, I agree with ur synopsis about grief and them overcoming it, but I feel like you're undermining the romance aspect of it. This series is advertised as a romance and its a HUGE deal for the appeal of this manga hence why it plays off of the trope gyaru x otaku which is a romance trope, its in part why people are focusing on tsubaki's past relationship. Its not about otakei being 'owed' a relationship, these arent real people they are fictional characters. It's about your expectations being met. It is expected that tsubaki and otakei will be together at some point in the story because its a romance manga. And for a romance this writing is very questionable. The author writing a mc having a past lover and then make her project that past lover on the one who she will be with is just not something that would give readers a 'sound of mind'. Of course they would be upset about this because its a romance between mmc and fmc and adding a third wheel fmc has to overcome adds onto that. I dont think im reaching when I said tsubaki is using him as a cope, thats a valid intepretation the author could very well shut down that intepretation if he wanted to, but hes literally giving us breadcrumbs. my intepretation is that tsubaki is coping about her ex while drinking, and she sees him in otakei, you can very well conclude that shes just imagining otakei being him, that fits the role of him just being the 'second-choice' and a replacement for her ex. If it wasnt a romance then it prob wouldnt be a problem for most people complaining here. Or at least if it was a romance between otakei and someone else (like the female mangaka for example) and not tsubaki. we simply dont have enough information and because of that its very valid for people to have these conclusions. Also from ur reply it seems like u dont deny the 'cuck vibes' ur just saying that its more than the romance and to not focus on it
 
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Like I said before and fmc just using him as her backup. It’s worse since she showed some interest in him during high school but mc clearly wasn’t her first choice. And the author is writing the story so bad with having the mc inexperience with relationships and not being able to be successful with manga without the help of the fmc who just toying with him.
 
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You should put down the NTR porn for a bit.

Real life is actually very complex when it comes to relationships and this isn't even that out of pocket, even in fiction. Tsubaki is grieving her lost relationship when she stumbled into someone she knew and was fairly close to in high school, only to find that Otakei is also at a crossroads in his life as he drifts through the days lamenting his failure at becoming a full-on mangaka. They both have heavy weights they're carrying, and have been struggling along each on their own (as it would seem) before running into one another after years of separate paths.

This is more than just a romance story, and they're both adults and not school kids. The themes are grief and overcoming that grief, and they take different forms for the two main characters--Otakei with his failed author career, and Tsubaki with the death of her husband and the apparent tension with her former in-laws, and both of them are rather aimless at the present--but are both now in the process of taking steps toward the future again.

They were close before, and that point of connection along with circumstances has them reentering one another's orbit. Of course things are different in the present, but you're reaching a lot in saying Tsubaki is using Otakei as "cope" over her dead husband. He's not "her second choice", any more than he's owed a relationship with her. They're two people who have gone and are going through shit, and this will be a story of seeing where and when and how they persevere through it and overcome the obstacles before them.
I will agree with this if this manga has the endgame like Himaten!.
 
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You should put down the NTR porn for a bit.

Real life is actually very complex when it comes to relationships and this isn't even that out of pocket, even in fiction. Tsubaki is grieving her lost relationship when she stumbled into someone she knew and was fairly close to in high school, only to find that Otakei is also at a crossroads in his life as he drifts through the days lamenting his failure at becoming a full-on mangaka. They both have heavy weights they're carrying, and have been struggling along each on their own (as it would seem) before running into one another after years of separate paths.

This is more than just a romance story, and they're both adults and not school kids. The themes are grief and overcoming that grief, and they take different forms for the two main characters--Otakei with his failed author career, and Tsubaki with the death of her husband and the apparent tension with her former in-laws, and both of them are rather aimless at the present--but are both now in the process of taking steps toward the future again.

They were close before, and that point of connection along with circumstances has them reentering one another's orbit. Of course things are different in the present, but you're reaching a lot in saying Tsubaki is using Otakei as "cope" over her dead husband. He's not "her second choice", any more than he's owed a relationship with her. They're two people who have gone and are going through shit, and this will be a story of seeing where and when and how they persevere through it and overcome the obstacles before them.
Bruh, you are trying to explain complex human interactions to a person, who prolly thinks real life is like one they see in the manga.
 

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