Mairimashita! Iruma-kun: If Episode of Mafia - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - Iruma-kun Of The Mafia

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This first chapter is a gem !!
I'm totally sold with this spin of !! The story is just so good !
Iruma being a the wholesome goodest boy ever wether the serie ! Can't stop loving such a cute good hearted kid !
Opera is so fcking badass !! OMG !!

The author COOKED with this spin of >w< ❤️❤️❤️
 
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The blatant misgendering and transphobia towards Opera disgusts me ngl xoxo. The official English physical copies use They/them . There was no excuse.
 
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Huh, that's something that i never even considered about the main series.
Could Iruma actually be an angel? We all know he's as kind as one. Theoretically both of his parents are human but we know so little about them🤷‍♂️

Anyways, thanks for the chapter, will def enjoy reading this. Don't know how it's slipped my attention for so long.
 
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Opera pronoun translation interests me.
Mayhaps it changes, perhaps not.

Whatevs.
 
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The blatant misgendering and transphobia towards Opera disgusts me ngl xoxo. The official English physical copies use They/them . There was no excuse.
This is oldish, and a different universe.
Give the translators some grace.

Are you a psyop with this virtue signalling?

Main canon Opera canonically doesn't care what you view them as or how you refer to them. Any/all, as it were.

Plenty of excuse.
 
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Opera pronoun translation interests me.
Mayhaps it changes, perhaps not.

Whatevs.
idk what the original text says but this is set in the human world (they're not as free with their identities as the demon world) and everyone has only just met Opera so maybe they don't know yet.
 
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idk what the original text says but this is set in the human world (they're not as free with their identities as the demon world) and everyone has only just met Opera so maybe they don't know yet.
Third person pronouns aren't used as often, and are gendered less often.
That's why Iruma could not know, conceivably.

Here he isn't confused, because they need to go to the doctor's and other annoying bs.
It's people not as close that don't know.

They use a basic, neutral first person pronoun. Many of all genders use it.

Makes things hard for translators, and changes a lot of how different stories flow.

In Japan, saying "I" is more likely to tell someone about your gender than someone indicating you. More likely to use their name or title, and then "this/that person" is pretty common.

One's own speech patterns will have more gendering than how anyone else refers to you.

First-person pronouns are a wild spectrum of signalling various things. 52 of them.

There is so much that is absolutely untranslatable. "Kakkoii onnanoko to 12 cm no yakusoku" or something like that has a girl who not only dresses like a guy, but uses a traditionally-masculine pronoun, and very traditionally-masculine speech patterns.
It's the trendy straightgay thing, except the guy is masculine, too, so they appear gay to those who don't know them.

But she's not doing anything to say she is a man. It's just... made very easy to infer. That just doesn't translate. The whole dynamic changes, because Indo-European languages don't work like that.

Other languages I know are pretty heavily gendered, so that's moot. Chinese wasn't very gendered, iirc, but it was too hard.
 
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Third person pronouns aren't used as often, and are gendered less often.
That's why Iruma could not know, conceivably.

Here he isn't confused, because they need to go to the doctor's and other annoying bs.
It's people not as close that don't know.

They use a basic, neutral first person pronoun. Many of all genders use it.

Makes things hard for translators, and changes a lot of how different stories flow.

In Japan, saying "I" is more likely to tell someone about your gender than someone indicating you. More likely to use their name or title, and then "this/that person" is pretty common.

One's own speech patterns will have more gendering than how anyone else refers to you.

First-person pronouns are a wild spectrum of signalling various things. 52 of them.

There is so much that is absolutely untranslatable. "Kakkoii onnanoko to 12 cm no yakusoku" or something like that has a girl who not only dresses like a guy, but uses a traditionally-masculine pronoun, and very traditionally-masculine speech patterns.
It's the trendy straightgay thing, except the guy is masculine, too, so they appear gay to those who don't know them.

But she's not doing anything to say she is a man. It's just... made very easy to infer. That just doesn't translate. The whole dynamic changes, because Indo-European languages don't work like that.

Other languages I know are pretty heavily gendered, so that's moot. Chinese wasn't very gendered, iirc, but it was too hard.
i just thought maybe someone might have mistaken Opera for a guy and used "kare" or something like that somewhere to refer to them in the original so maybe it's intentional. but i don't know what it says on the raws so maybe it's a coincidence like you say.
 
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i just thought maybe someone might have mistaken Opera for a guy and used "kare" or something like that somewhere to refer to them in the original so maybe it's intentional. but i don't know what it says on the raws so maybe it's a coincidence like you say.
Japanese doesn't use third-person pronouns that often, when used you're most likely to see/hear "that person" unless it's very casual, and Opera uses one of the most-common neutral first-person ones.

You just POUNCED, though. You don't need so have the torches and pitchforks at the ready.

And meeting ignorance with kindness is no less effective than with anger.
Why would you think Nishi would allow Opera's closest peeps to be transphobic?
 

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