Mairimashita! Iruma-kun - Vol. 16 Ch. 138 - Conditions to Bloom

[mmvsbb]

@ComradeRoe He, she...you just don't put the block on my boy when he's having his first words with Best Girl in 15 chapters.

 

[greatninja3]

So basically the old demon king was also human

and surprisingly also Japanese

Though I assume the first demon king is Solomon

 

[spurgleburgle]

That Nafra twist was unexpected, and I'm glad that he wasn't just another student who gave up his points to Iruma for no reason.

If anyone else forgot when cherry blossoms appeared before, like I did, they were in chapter 9, when Iruma used magic to make them grow. They don't grow in the demon world, so this probably means that the demon king has been to the human world before and enjoyed it. Maybe he even wanted a bridge between the worlds, like Iruma.

But why is "listening to one's own desires, and fighting for them without getting tiring or giving up" considered undemonlike? The villainous group would say demons should listen to their desires more. If I had to guess, maybe demons are naturally tempestuous, and will easily give up on a desire and pick a new one if it gets too hard, so the undemonlike part is not getting tired or giving up. But considering Amelie, Sabnock, and Asmodeus, who are prime examples of demons who always follow through on their desires, that doesn't sound right.

 

[tblst]

@mmvsbb No no no, he saved Iruma from an awkward encounter. Amelie was expecting a gift from Iruma because of her own delusions, and Nafra interrupted them in the perfect time.

 

[biznizz]

@greatninja3

I don't think the previous king was human, but he was probably inspired BY humans. By all accounts, he tamed the netherworld into a more civilized society (to the point that there are "Make Hell Great Again" terrorist groups who want to go back to the old ways), got a ring named after a VERY human king, and now the sakura tree.

 

[Tuffin]

@spurgleburgle that exact point you raised was the whole point of Bachiko's character, If you can, reread the archery training ones. Demons have a natural inclination to drop a hard task once they get bored and have a natural impatient, chaotic tendency, so that's why learning archery is considered so undemonlike.

And yeah, that's what makes demons like Sabnock, Azz, and Amelie so especially notable. The difference is, unlike selflessness or patience, demons recognize ambition as something many value but few achieve.

 

[spurgleburgle]

@Tuffin You're right, I forgot about that chapter. That makes more sense. I think that sentence in the chapter was misleading- the main point the leaf was making was that demons lack perseverance or patience, rather than anything about them not following their desires.

 

[Tamerlane]

Even love can bloom on the battlefield...

Okay, that was a good twist, not gonna lie, and that suddenly explains a lot. (Such as how he would know how to act out the manga only Ameri and he knows, how he watered the plant, and why he would just let Iruma take the win, despite that being a very un-demon like thing to do)

I still wonder why demons would value helping others with no benefit to yourself, but that's probably because they don't want their king to fuck them over.

Also, Ameri immediately runs to Iruma, yet has a less emotional reaction after not seeing him for 45+ chapters than Grandpa. Marvelous

 

[UXLZ]

@Tamerlane

The books Amelie has are forbidden texts and she needs Iruma to translate them. I highly doubt she's been conveying them all to a random first year unless there's actually even more to him than meets the eye. The rest is explained quite well by the twist though.

 

[chusetto]

So... the Demon Lord was really human, huh?

 

[Scrwd]

@Tamerlane Because it's the current king's ideology. He wants to look for a demon that values fun and compassion instead of greed and selfishness, to follow on his legacy. If it were a primordial demon (ones who want to restore what original demons were like), the path to getting the leaf would be filled with deception and betrayal

 

[Simkin]

I'm just glad that Nafra will be a recurring character since he's revealed to be part of the student council.

 

[pockettrash]

Amelie besto

 

[Petnavis]

@Tamerlane That's the problem. As shown Demons will help people close to them but never people they don't know. The exception has been Iruma and those he has influenced. So the previous demonking wants Iruma to be come demonking because the position of Demonking is like a King Fisher - they influence the demon realm so if a cruel person become king everyone becomes more cruel but if Iruma becomes king they become closer to Iruma.

 

[likm]

@chusetto

So... the Demon Lord was really human, huh?

Not necessarily.

My theory is (this has been influenced greatly based on what others have said in this comment section) that Solomon was the first demon king (and first human demon king to boot) and Iruma is going to be the second human to become demon king (hence why he will wear Solomon's ring on his hand).
These are the three reasons that I don't believe that the missing demon king, Delkila, was human: 1. in the images that we see of the missing demon king, Delkila, (https://mangadex.org/chapter/841499 and https://mangadex.org/chapter/973696/16) he has pointy ears, horns, and fangs like demons do, 2. it is very possible that the ring's avatar is the soul of Delkila (https://mangadex.org/chapter/625545/20) and the first time that we saw the ring's avatar it had pointy ears and claws like a demon (https://mangadex.org/chapter/83596/8), 3. I remember reading about someone theorizing that Delkila was Kalego's older brother (which if true means that Delkila was a demon).
It seems more likely that Delkila was a fan of the first demon king Solomon (Solomon being the first demon king is not canon...yet), kind of like how Sabnock is a fan of demon kings, and decided to visit the realm where Solomon was born; or Delkila has been shown to be adventurous so it's not unlikely that he visited the human realm out of curiosity and fell in love with it.

TL;DR: it's highly unlikely that the missing demon king Delkila was a human because of reasons.

 

[IrregularPerson]

I didn’t notice but Mr 2nd is a horse demon

 

[Calfiphunt]

Did it just commit suicide?

 

[RC1138Boss]

Last demon king either was human or visited human world.

 

[SonicDisgaea98]

@IrregularPerson his name is Orobas, right? In the SMT Series, Orobas is also a horse iirc, so I dont think it's a coincidence

 

[TwEeD]

@biznizz Or by a human. Remember the woman Amerie's father brought back to the human world? What if she had a fling with the Demon King and gave birth to a son afterwards ... which due to unfortunate circumstances got placed in a useless family