Maseki Gurume: Mamono no Chikara wo Tabeta Ore wa Saikyou! - Ch. 60 - The Chancellor's Objective

[Superpeanut]

Wooooo I can read this, and without wondering if I had a stroke xD

That last dude who posted this chapter… whoof.

 

[Knighto]

holy crap, the AI version was really reaaaally bad

 

[Gudachiz]

does that mean the translation is behind and the manga is currently on chapter 63 rn or am i not understanding u?

the translation is only behind 1 chapter, the raws are only up to 61 which came out a few days ago(these things take time to scanlate btw nevermind redrawing)

62 and 63's plot i can estimate based on what i've read from the novel and even without that you can more or less guess what will happen from there thanks to context clues from the previous chapters and especially 61

 

[TetraSky]

Nice to have a proper translation.

 

[Primalmoon]

Now that I've seen a proper translation, in retrospect, the other translation wasn't that bad on a surface level... That would be fine for a lot of mangas. The issue was that the source material here was very precise and complicated, and the bad translation did not preserve that. With all of the legalese / formal diplomacy / politics / careful phrasing / lying going on, any inaccuracies made for a complete mess.

Thank you, LHTranslations, for doing this chapter justice.

 

[Gudachiz]

But isn't the indifference of the common citizenry to a war of resentment against Hyme only for now, while they still don't know how their popular 2nd Princess and Crown Prince were treated by Hyme?

yep, if they find out and if the Royal family were to reveal all the other shit the first prince did and what the Royal family demanded of Claune, they'd get mad too, almost as mad as the king if not more, the crimes they did in a diplomatic and even practical stand point is pretty grave, it would be very easy for Ishtalica to make just cause to enrage their citizens so that they'd wage war on Hyme, they'd have the support of the nobles too

Wouldn't that indifference turn to resentment and calls for bloody vengeance if Hyme's treatment of Ain, as well as the kidnapping and enslaving of Ishtalican citizens, were to be found out by the common citizenry?

yep, this part is the most damning too, they showed the support to show that in case this gets out they'd easily be wiped off the face of the map, royals and all

 

[AnotherDuck]

"Why is Claune not present?"

Because you are.

"I cannot decide without consulting my brother."

That's probably the most reasonable thing he's ever said. Even if the situation may not be the best.

Lots of political maneuvering. She's playing her own game, and statistics are used for their usual purpose: Lying.

Didn't say whether she'd ever return, just answered what he really asked, in the way he really didn't want.

as much as we all want to see some murder, i think that's a smart policy.

I'm more in the camp of, "Why bother?" Swatting flies isn't that interesting.

 

[SaHG104]

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

 

[Ninoren]

Now destroy hyme and everyone is happy 🫡

Also the "We dont attack first rule"- made by the first king is absolute bogus.. your enemy could prepare themselves as well as they want and you refrain from stopping that in it's tracks simply, because some king no one knew said so.. (Considering NO ONE was aware of the real identity of the first king), they'd have more than enough reason to attack even, if you think about the first prince imprisoning women and do god knows what to them

 

[Meridis]

honestly, fool he is, the third prince isn't that bad. He's merely the result of lese majeste and other issues with status and power preventing people from explicitly saying they don't like him.

 

[himea27]

The third prince got NTR'd

 

[nuttyknight89]

I’m either sleep deprived or just dumb, cause I don’t understand wtf just happened regarding Claune. Didn’t that document classify her as a traitor to be returned to the country in exchange for the captured civilians?

 

[jagfanbb]

Get wrekt shitty prince

 

[BladeGrip]

I’m either sleep deprived or just dumb, cause I don’t understand wtf just happened regarding Claune. Didn’t that document classify her as a traitor to be returned to the country in exchange for the captured civilians?

I believe there were two categories of civilians in the discussed matter. One who had gone/defected to Hyme on their own free will, and the other who had been brought to Hyme against their will.

Claune's mom basically says that if Ishtalica demands the former group to be extradited and tried, Hyme would demand Claune and her grandfather to be returned in exchange. Therefore that matter is ultimately dropped.

The latter group of civilians would be returned regardless of the outcome.

 

[nuttyknight89]

I believe there were two categories of civilians in the discussed matter. One who had gone/defected to Hyme on their own free will, and the other who had been brought to Hyme against their will.

Claune's mom basically says that if Ishtalica demands the former group to be extradited and tried, Hyme would demand Claune and her grandfather to be returned in exchange. Therefore that matter is ultimately dropped.

The latter group of civilians would be returned regardless of the outcome.

THANK YOU! For some reason that just wasn’t clicking. Shows what I get for reading at 2am.

 

[Unpassant]

The last time i read this chapter, it was like : Wait ! I know some of those words !

 

[Shinigamisama]

She could've roasted him gracefully and tell him that she's going to be Ain's wife.

 

[feha]

Oh hey, I understood what happened

I did not. I did for the most part until elena said they wanted an extradition of claune and her dad (as treasonous criminals) in return for the captives of the first prince, to which the chancellor unexpectedly said "sure" and signed documents to this agreement. And then it continued being confusing as nothing beyond that point seemed to align with claune&dad being extradited, and it seems like that point of contention magically disappeared from the agreement?

 

[BlackAeronaut]

Lots of political maneuvering. She's playing her own game, and statistics are used for their usual purpose: Lying.

Indeed. However, it would not surprise me if, given Ain's overwhelming support by the citizens of Ishtalica, that they'd be all-for a war against Hyme. Especially considering the vast superiority of Ishtalica's military over Hyme's. It'd be a curb stomp the likes of the US Navy crushing the Pirates of Barbary. And in the end, they can set up Hyme as a vassal state while also improving the overall quality of life for Hyme's citizens.

But it's understandable that they'd rather not. They have no need for a vassal state, and the only things they'd gain were already resolved in the negotiations.

 

[BlackAeronaut]

holy crap, the AI version was really reaaaally bad

More like the person wrangling the AI was really bad. It's possible to get a good translation out of MTL, but you gotta have a good eye for spotting and maintaining the proper context and looking up the words that fit that context. And this is to say nothing about knowing how to use the English language properly.