[MEGATHREAD] Tags Suggestions

[kouyo]

This thread is for suggesting and discussing new tags to be implemented in MangaDex. To suggest a new tag, please follow the guidelines below.

Guidelines:​

1. Your tag should represent a broad theme or concept that applies to a wide range of content. Providing examples is encouraged to clarify where it would be used.
2. Tags should be clear, easy to understand. Try to avoid suggesting tags that are too abstract or based on niche references that might confuse others.
3. Avoid suggesting tags that could closely overlap with existing ones. If unsure, check our Tags Definition for guidance, ask if you're still unsure.
4. Provide a clear explanation of the tag's purpose and what type of content it is meant to categorize.
5. Tags should primarily focus on describing content itself, such as its themes, genres, or storytelling structure. Tags that focus on external conditions or processes are not in line with this rule. Other types of tags may be accepted, provided they help users identify the reading structure or navigational format of the content.
6. Tags promoting content that violates site rules won't be accepted.

Important:​

Anything falling under the banner of "porn tags" is currently pending a tag rework. We're in need of a system for categorizing these tags that will allow us to flag them appropriately and segregate them from the main list of tags.

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Below is a list of suggested tags that meets the previous requirements. This is not a list of tags that we will add. Only if the tag meets the requirements, it will be added to the list. Porn tags are excluded from this list.

Suggested tags:​

• Age Gap
• Childcare
• Idols
• Economics
• Educative
• Short Comics
• Kingdom
• Enterprise
• Cute Girls Doing Cute Things (CGDCT)
• Maid
• Banishment/Abandoned Protagonist
• Farming/Agriculture
• Child Abuse
• Power Fantasy
• Game Elements
• Romantic Subtext
• Iyashikei
• Journey
• Dungeon Crawl
• Politics
• Robots
• Kemonomimi

 

[GreyouTT]

[Tag Suggestion] Yandere and Tsundere​

I wanna be able to filter these things out of my searches.

 

[seekermoc]

As for whether series with ≤4 pages per chapter need their own separate format tag, I'm not sure. "Web Comic" kind of largely overlaps with it already.

I have to disagree with this. There are tons of web comics that have full-length, or even quite long chapters, especially with Korean or Chinese series.

A Format Tag for "Short Chapters", "Twitter Shorts", "Self-Published Short", or even just "Short" would be infinitely more appropriate than "Web Comic".

 

[Teasday]

I have to disagree with this. There are tons of web comics that have full-length, or even quite long chapters, especially with Korean or Chinese series.

This doesn't disagree with what I said. What I meant is that the Venn diagram of "Short chapters" would fit almost entirely inside "Web comic", which is a problem because we want to avoid adding tags that basically by default come with another tag. That's just poor design.

 

[seekermoc]

This doesn't disagree with what I said. What I meant is that the Venn diagram of "Short chapters" would fit almost entirely inside "Web comic", which is a problem because we want to avoid adding tags that basically by default come with another tag. That's just poor design.

I don't see anything wrong with a reasonable degree of tag overlap if it helps users get more relevant search results. If anything, having one tag cover such a wide variety of content is the bigger problem, as otherwise "Web Comic" as a tag loses most of its relevancy in facilitating a search. There's a significant enough style/format difference between the majority of web comics and these 1-2 page twitter chapters to warrant the distinction. Especially with this volume of content, as it's not like this is asking for a niche tag that only covers a couple dozen chapters.

If we're worried about tag overlap, how about Isekai and Fantasy? Not all Fantasy is Isekai, but the overwhelming majority of Isekai is Fantasy, almost to the point that it makes Isekai pointless as a genre. Unless you're trying to exclude it to search for non-Isekai Fantasy, which is basically what a "Short" or similar tag would allow us to exclude from Web Comic.

There's tons of other examples of tags with just as much, if not more, overlap than Web Comic and Twitter. Villainess and Reincarnation, Romance and Drama, Wuxia and Martial Arts, Monsters and Zombies, etc.

Edit: Though I suppose there are also policy/standards controls that could address some of these concerns, like defining "Web Comic" as excluding "Long Strip" Manwha/Manhua-style series, or specifying that the more specific "Zombie" tag precludes use of the broader "Monster" tag, but that's also not a perfect solution.

 

[Teasday]

If we're worried about tag overlap, how about Isekai and Fantasy? Not all Fantasy is Isekai, but the overwhelming majority of Isekai is Fantasy, almost to the point that it makes Isekai pointless as a genre.

Yes, I agree. Isekai should probably be categorized as a theme instead of a genre. The problem isn't so much overlap between different categories, but certain tags being near-perfect subsets of others within the same category.

There's tons of other examples of tags with just as much, if not more, overlap than Web Comic and Twitter. Villainess and Reincarnation, Romance and Drama, Wuxia and Martial Arts, Monsters and Zombies, etc.

Taking a quick look at these pairings using the search, the only one that actually seems to have fairly large overlap relative to its size is Wuxia with Martial Arts, but since those are different categories it's fine.

If you find proper subsets, let me know so I can advocate for a rework or removal of those tags.

 

[Exquisitus]

[TAG] Please add tag for child abuse​

I think that a tag [Child] is absolutely necessary. It is utterly disgusting and disturbing. I don't care if it is legal in Japan or they are just drawings. Those stories are sick for sick people. We need a tag so normal people can dodge that stuff.

 

[DesertStorm]

If fictional drawings cause you to react like that, seek therapy. Please!

That's not how a normal human being reacts.

 

[Exquisitus]

And how normal human being should react?

 

[DesertStorm]

And how normal human being should react?

Therapy can help you learn some coping techniques. An average human being would just move on and carry on with their lives because they know it's fiction, it doesn't cause any physical harm to anyone and they have more important problems to worry about.

 

[EOTFOFYL]

I think that a tag [Child] is absolutely necessary. It is utterly disgusting and disturbing. I don't care if it is legal in Japan or they are just drawings. Those stories are sick for sick people. We need a tag so normal people can dodge that stuff.

Not sure if useful.
Wouldn't it be obvious?
Read the synopsis.

Also, would you please
Provide example mangas?
None comes to my mind.

 

[panzerkampfwagyu]

I think he complains about Lolicon stuff, though that already has the tag: Loli

 

[jeezits]

Not too much of a problem but I’m not a fan of series that have just one page as a chapter. I think a tag for it wouldn’t hurt.

ESP now a days people seem to be uploading one page from an artists Twitter and calling it a “one-shot”

I don’t think that’s too much of an ask tbh.

I’m not saying these things are bad, but I’m just not a fan and it’s hard to tell from a glance without just clicking on it.

It's not just Twitter comics. For example, all 953 "chapters" of Tomo-chan is a Girl! are a single page. I'll be the first to admit it's an edge case, but it is annoying to have the site's chapter load functionality run on every single page when reading it on MD; totally defeats the purpose of having pages preloaded. Some of the aggregator sites just went ahead and posted multiple "chapters" as 20-30 "chapter" blocks.

But like I said, edge case, and not a common issue.

 

[Orio]

And how normal human being should react?

Probably not how I do 😭😭😭

Practical suggestion though if you wanna drool over cute, wholesome loli and can't accept getting hard over it then just filter out suggestive and erotica, ez

 

[feha]

I don't see myself ever searching for the plot-device that is child abuse, in particular. If want somethign sad, I would search for "tragedy". Or for something more specific, maybe "tragic backstory" (though while NU etc. uses tags like that, MD rarely has tags for anything but genres (meaning, they rarely have tags even for subgenres! much less plot elements/devices, and doubly less exact versions of a plot device)).

Normally I am all for having more tags, but they have to be meaningful in terms of discovery. Otherwise they will only dilute the tagging system, and overall make it harder for uploaders to use it properly (which results in them not using it properly, either from ignorance or simple laziness, so stuff ends up lacking tags so stuff won't show up even when ppl explicitly search for that kind of stuff), and harder for readers to grasp a titles tags at a glance (information overload).
So yes, a "tragic backstory" tag, or for ones where it is throughout the actual plot (like that slow-life isekai title where everyone abuses mc), something like "downtrodden/abused mc" (surely there is a better phrase), aka tags that includes all forms of abuse makes more sense [than a child abuse tag] imo (because they describe the story/plot, rather than professing the existance of a very specific plot-element - that could have been used in ways the searcher wasn't interested in). Both for whitelist searches and for blacklist searches.

 

[feha]

I think he complains about Lolicon stuff, though that already has the tag: Loli

title suggests he did a typo, and didn't mean loli, but rather meant stories where mc was abused as a child/is actively abused as a child. Doesn't even have to be sexual.

 

[panzerkampfwagyu]

title suggests he did a typo, and didn't mean loli, but rather meant stories where mc was abused as a child/is actively abused as a child. Doesn't even have to be sexual.

His

[...]I don't care if it is legal in Japan or they are just drawings. Those stories are sick for sick people. [...]

line suggests he is talking about Lolicon stuff, given the arguments usually come up in that discussion and at least the first one is an ill-fit to actual child abuse(Pretty sure that one isn't legal in Japan).

 

[Ncararc]

Aside from the arguments given already, the mere existence of a tag that indicates [child abuse] would make MD seem like it's actively supporting such real material (i.e., non-fictional) on this site, and might cause untoward attention to be directed here.

 

[Kachada]

[TAG] Role Reversal​

As it seems to be a growing theme, a tag for character role reversal would be nice to have. I am unsure however if enough Manga have this. Generally the one I see the most and the one I am interested in is Gender Role Reversal, where the men hold traditionally female positions and troubles in society and the women hold traditionally male troubles and positions in society.

Two examples off the top of my head are:
Otomege Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu
and
Dungeon Tou de Yadoya wo Yarou! Souzou Mahou wo Moratta Ore no Hosoude Hanjouki

The names were taken directly from this website to avoid confusion. I am not really prepared to argue for and about this, and completely understand if the people building the site need to put their time somewhere else.

 

[comfykotatsu]

Maybe instead of adding a tag, you could calculate the average page per chapter of a manga for all existing and future mangas and add a filter for that.
With this, if I wanted to read mangas with at least 10 pages in average per chapter, I could filter for those mangas.

This probably is not a perfect solution, but maybe a nice trade off.
But not sure how difficult it would be on the technical side to implement this feature.

 

[johnpoop2529]

Has there been a response to the futanari tag, I'd like for that to be a thing so I can exclude it (just not my thing, I understand if others are) NTR is also a good one, because I really hate reading that, and the Drama tag is more than just NTR so I can't avoid all mangas with it.