Meguro-san wa Hajimete ja Nai - Vol. 10 Ch. 68 - Able to be joyful

[MangaDex]

 

[LouisTheLuis]

that is a really damn weird mother

 

[caseo78]

If looks could kill.

 

[Case]

Oh, I'm glad Meguro's mother isn't the kind of woman that would hit on her daughter's boyfriend just for fun (even though she lacks common sense and it's very touchy-feely lol).

But dang, can't wait to see homeboy's answer.

 

[trenslime]

based Meguro, based Meguromama

 

[comeonnow0]

The manga and the author writing it are weird here.

The mother says ALL that she cares about are looks. Right before it, she had made a decent statement. It's nice to be able to see a person you love and be happy to see their face. I'm fine with that. But the mother then proceeded to say that for her, looks are all that matter.

The author then tries to cover over that weirdness by having the mother somehow be deep and thoughtful. But what was the point? Why even have that explicitly shallow part? The author could've just had the mother say that looks are also very important, in addition to something like personality.

The reason why it all matters is because her statements about her husband, the father of her children, are all crap. She talks about his personality and how he loves her, but that ultimately doesn't matter. For her, the fact that he's handsome is all that matters.

It's weird.

 

[Mangamoz]

So...
Where was her mom when Meguro was getting sexually exploited by scumbags?

 

[ninkek]

So...
Where was her mom when Meguro was getting sexually exploited by scumbags?

They looked handsome so...

 

[Kaarme]

The manga and the author writing it are weird here.

The mother says ALL that she cares about are looks. Right before it, she had made a decent statement. It's nice to be able to see a person you love and be happy to see their face. I'm fine with that. But the mother then proceeded to say that for her, looks are all that matter.

The author then tries to cover over that weirdness by having the mother somehow be deep and thoughtful. But what was the point? Why even have that explicitly shallow part? The author could've just had the mother say that looks are also very important, in addition to something like personality.

The reason why it all matters is because her statements about her husband, the father of her children, are all crap. She talks about his personality and how he loves her, but that ultimately doesn't matter. For her, the fact that he's handsome is all that matters.

It's weird.

She's not a young girl anymore. She's a woman of many years of marriage and two late teen children. You might say she has had easily enough time to form a sort of lifestyle and life philosophy for herself. Whether it's dodgy or not doesn't matter anymore, at that point, as much as it might have earlier in life, as she has fulfilled the biological meaning of life already. Like you pointed out, she's not being entirely truthful, but it's of little importance. She merely need to stick to it enough to find joy in her life. And that she very much does through having a plastic surgery face (and maybe other parts of the body), a handsome husband, and beautiful daughters. In short, she's just trying to enjoy the rest of her life now the best she can, contradictions included.

 

[ciera]

What a nice mother. Thanks for the scanlation.

 

[mayu_hojo]

As shallow of a person as she sounds she's already a pretty interestingly written character... Her life philosophy actually sounds like it got in the way between her and Meguro's relationship as family and it's such a good detail to note. It already fleshes out her character with her recognizing the consequence of her philosophy yet still showing she pays attention and cares for her daughter in a different way.

Heck, it must've influenced Meguro's view of love with how her mom and dad interact at home then? Which interestingly shaped her to care more on whats on the inside in contrast of her mother...

 

[brainman]

So...
Where was her mom when Meguro was getting sexually exploited by scumbags?

Presumably getting distracted by her own reflection

 

[comeonnow0]

She's not a young girl anymore. She's a woman of many years of marriage and two late teen children. You might say she has had easily enough time to form a sort of lifestyle and life philosophy for herself. Whether it's dodgy or not doesn't matter anymore, at that point, as much as it might have earlier in life, as she has fulfilled the biological meaning of life already. Like you pointed out, she's not being entirely truthful, but it's of little importance. She merely need to stick to it enough to find joy in her life. And that she very much does through having a plastic surgery face (and maybe other parts of the body), a handsome husband, and beautiful daughters. In short, she's just trying to enjoy the rest of her life now the best she can, contradictions included.

It's not just about her when she is literally talking to her daughter's boyfriend. Koga is a highly impressionable, fairly young man. It would be different if she were just thinking these things on her own. She isn't. She's not really giving advice to Koga, but it could easily go in that direction.

That's not even mentioning any potential conversations she may or may not have had with her children. Maybe she did speak to them about this. Maybe not. But she is explicitly talking to Koga about it right now.

So yes, it does matter because it's not just about her.

 

[kuma]

It's not just about her when she is literally talking to her daughter's boyfriend. Koga is a highly impressionable, fairly young man. It would be different if she were just thinking these things on her own. She isn't. She's not really giving advice to Koga, but it could easily go in that direction.

That's not even mentioning any potential conversations she may or may not have had with her children. Maybe she did speak to them about this. Maybe not. But she is explicitly talking to Koga about it right now.

So yes, it does matter because it's not just about her.

she just make little talk about what he love about her daughter that lead to her talking her living philosophy. then ask koga what she love about her daughter. she clearly concern about her daughter but she also respect her privacy and meguro wasn't really open to her mother either. i don't know how you get that she think it was all about her.

 

[Mangamoz]

She's not a young girl anymore. She's a woman of many years of marriage and two late teen children. You might say she has had easily enough time to form a sort of lifestyle and life philosophy for herself. Whether it's dodgy or not doesn't matter anymore, at that point, as much as it might have earlier in life, as she has fulfilled the biological meaning of life already. Like you pointed out, she's not being entirely truthful, but it's of little importance. She merely need to stick to it enough to find joy in her life. And that she very much does through having a plastic surgery face (and maybe other parts of the body), a handsome husband, and beautiful daughters. In short, she's just trying to enjoy the rest of her life now the best she can, contradictions included.

It really does explain a lot of why Meguro lacked almost any understanding of basic human emotions.(That and a very high chance of her being on the autism spectrum too)

Seems that her mom basically left her to fend for herself without giving her any advice about how to handle malicious men.

And the consequences of this was that she got sexually exploited by the first guy she met, who abused her naivety maliciously, and made her believe being a sex doll for guys was the norm.

I really hope the original piece of shit who tricked her gets some punishment for his actions.

 

[Kitsune_115]

 

[comeonnow0]

she just make little talk about what he love about her daughter that lead to her talking her living philosophy. then ask koga what she love about her daughter. she clearly concern about her daughter but she also respect her privacy and meguro wasn't really open to her mother either. i don't know how you get that she think it was all about her.

You just ignored every point that already addresses everything you said. The question that you asked was already answered by both me as well as the story.

You say she is "just" making small talk because you are trying to minimize what she was talking about. Yes, it started out as small talk. It became more serious as she continued to talk. Just like how I can start off talking about the weather and then switch to talking about how it was a stormy night when I hid the bodies.

If you read the story, you will see that your question was already answered, and you're just trying to ignore what happened.

 

[kuma]

You just ignored every point that already addresses everything you said. The question that you asked was already answered by both me as well as the story.

You say she is "just" making small talk because you are trying to minimize what she was talking about. Yes, it started out as small talk. It became more serious as she continued to talk. Just like how I can start off talking about the weather and then switch to talking about how it was a stormy night when I hid the bodies.

If you read the story, you will see that your question was already answered, and you're just trying to ignore what happened.

no, you just ignore the talk already focus on koga by the last 4 pages of chapter, but meguro interrupted so the talk end shortly. she just talk what she think of her daughter and want to hear what koga think about her daughter. it wouldn't make sense what she think about her daughter without the context, which she did in early part of chapter. i don't know why you took it different ways.

 

[comeonnow0]

no, you just ignore the talk already focus on koga by the last 4 pages of chapter, but meguro interrupted so the talk end shortly. she just talk what she think of her daughter and want to hear what koga think about her daughter. it wouldn't make sense what she think about her daughter without the context, which she did in early part of chapter. i don't know why you took it different ways.

And you're just bringing in completely irrelevant things.

I am saying that mother's monologued about only looks mattering plus her talk about her husband were weird.

Then you come in and say they switched to talking about Meguro and what Koga likes about her. My response is so what? Yes, you are correct that they returned to the initial talk about what he likes about her. So what? That doesn't erase the mother's speech. It didn't make her statements suddenly make sense.

You say you don't know why I took it different ways? I'm taking it the way that she literally said. Out loud. To Koga. Hi, I'm Meguro's mom. I think that looks are the only thing that matter. Oh, by the way, here's a little story about my husband's personality. But he's handsome.

That is fundamentally what she said. If you don't see that as being weird, then I give up.

 

[Tuddle_10265l]

oh my god chibi meguro i cant