Mieruko-chan - Vol. 11 Ch. 59

[nhansieu1]

if this ghost follows Miko, it would get Free Real Meal. So many meals

 

[Xystus]

Crazy how ghosts and spirits nowadays can be tamed with a single Lambda bun.

Anyway, buy your own Lambda bun now at Lambda.com/shop, use promo code [HANA] to get 30% discount on first purchase!

 

[Blaze_Rod]

Ok, that is really bad.

Do not empower the fucked up ghost.

 

[fight2live]

Hana unknowingly saves the day again

 

[Clad95150]

I mike how Michiru's tentacle are subtle now.
On her robe or on the rabbit mask (p37).
You can even think it's part of Michiru's clothes :O

I take it that she is more in peace with herself. Nice.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

You can interpret it in multiple ways.
My personal take is that the local god / Spirit might have been forgotten and left weak. ( assumed from the state of the shrine )

But thanks to her offering he got some power back.
( and also a new appearance in the hope of attracting more attention? )

Another interpretation could be that since MC´s friend's aura is so powerful.
It more or less transforms the local Spirit ( or god but less likely if it is a real one ) into a (hopefully?) friendlier one.
My take is the first one because it still has spikes and stuff coming out of it, but you could argue its a matter of power...


It could also just enjoy cosplaying like all the park visitors
But the idea that she transformed the ghost/spirit / whatever is much more funny to me.

Some people mentioned that spikes can be coming out of him because boy was cursed to death using wara ningyo dolls nailed to a forest tree, that's why he's in forest and has nails stuck in him.

 

[Pyoro]

Ngl wish they would tell us how to differentiate between good and bad ghosts

The scarier they look the more likely it is they are good, of course ...

 

[PutuKa]

Great now local god know a taste of power will ask for more power from lambda rabbit being trendy hits

 

[Arexty]

Good Julia-focused chapter, it's funny that she genuinely believes in the Spider Exorcism Power she thinks Miko has.
Speaking of Miko, she's gotta start keeping Hana on a shorter leash and away from local abandoned shrines...

 

[zokoi19]

did it try changing to look like the rabbit in hope of getting more followers? That's so cute ngl

thanks for the chapter!

 

[Koshin_127]

Am I the only one who is bothered that that girl didn't apologize to Julia?

 

[nirleka]

Hana's power to power up local god

 

[ilusatus]

I think that god neither good or bad.
Just territorial and happy theres someone remember him as a god of that park.

 

[K_Takuya]

"I would consider Mieruko making conscious steps to ultimately resolve her ability to see"
but she's actually did make effort for that, she consulted to rom many times to understand the supernatural world better and she even tried to communicate to one because the possibilities there's good one out there but rom adviced her to not do that because it's way too dangerous for her especially her lack of experience. so what's the conscious steps that ultimately you think count as "moving"?
if it's not instant or whole it doesn't count ? can you elaborate on this?

"That hasn't happened once ever since the end of the whole cursed-mountain-shrine arc"
factually untrue as i just explained above

"but I deleted it. I reckon you wouldn't be interested"
oh please don't mind me, just write it down again since i love good argument

"especially if you're just trying to dunk on me for brownie points"
you don't know me and you already make an assumption out of thin air, have you seen me argue with people? can you point out which one of them i did for brownie point? i'm confused

"Point is I think Mieruko's like a react streamer reacting to her own wacky wahoo life instead of taking the initiative to do something about it."
oh and she did,care to elaborate on this point more about not taking initiative? i have my own eyes and i never seen miko just standing there doing a pog face and does nothing, so i don't understand what you trying to say here?

Alright, thanks for humoring me on this. Much appreciated.
First of all, the brownie point thing. I have voiced my frustration with this series on comments of previous chapters multiple times I believe. Most of the time, the reply I receive is something along that previous asshat's reply. Surely you can see how my experience affect my expectations, so I think me being precautious is justified especially with how tribal a lot of people are with their opinions. You being pretty open to discussing this is an exception, not the rule. I hoped you didn't take it the wrong way if you were being genuine before, so I apologize. I hope you understand.

Now, from how I see it, so far within the story the 1 major move forward made in the series is Mieruko's interaction with the Godmother and Romm. Not any particular interaction, but just the fact that Mieruko found them. Why? Because in this series' storytelling, the Godmother and Romm serves as mentor characters, akin to Abbe Faria for Edmond Dantes in The Count of Monte Cristo. A character (or in this case, 2) that are able to teach and give the main character means towards resolving her conflict.

You said that multiple efforts were made by the protag, and yes, I see your point. But, my frustration lies with how a lot of those efforts are barely reciprocated if at all. In the hospital scene within Michiru arc, Romm did in fact teach Mieruko the fact that she sees "the other side" much clearer than everyone else using the reflection on the window. But this is a no-shit-sherlock information because she's known all this by virtue of interacting with Niguredou.

Mieruko herself had an inkling of idea (and hoped) that she can communicate with the good ones, but she doesn't know which is which. This is the kind of thing I expect Mitsue and Romm to teach, but they didn't. As far as I can remember, MItsue's been out of the picture throughout Michiru arc and Romm are as dismissive as any mentor can get.

"A lot of them are dangerous, so just don't" is how I perceive Romm's advice (and also how Mieruko perceives it I think but do correct me if I'm completely wrong). But Mieruko wants to actually know what she should do in multiple paranormal interactions, so she goes on a trial-and-error mode with no basic knowledge that Romm and/or Mitsue should've given. That's how she almost crashed into a truck, that's how she went panic mode when her brother touched the cursed snowman, that's how she basically go about her life since the start of this series.

It's too dangerous because she has no experience, yet no one taught her anything so she starts grasping on straws to have experience. But by trying to gain experience she gets into dangerous situations. Because she could get into dangerous situations, Romm told her to not even try. By not trying, she gains no experience. She got no experience, so it's dangerous. The circle of inadequacy feeds itself, and Mieruko doesn't get anywhere close to resolving her own conflict.

By this point if you're still reading, I hope you can see that my frustration is not on Mieruko the character, but on the storytelling of this series as a whole. By finding someone she regards as mentor, the story as a whole moved forward 1 step. After that, we got to Michiru's arc where there's no real growth for Mieruko as a character. On the contrary, the mystery just... expands further with the whole "unassuming middle aged guy" and the "dad". Don't get me wrong, I LOVE mystery. But having it expand while the story barely progresses is, for me at the very least, frustrating. Which brings me to the bigger picture of my frustration. This series' pacing.

I know for a fact that if I found this series for the first time today, I wouldn't be bitching about it like this. If I read this series in one go, it would be fine. But I'm not. I followed this series right from the pre-serialization. This series is written with the pacing of a biweekly series, yet it took 6 years just for the story be in practically a stand-still ever since the end of cursed shrine arc. Mieruko as a character today is practically still the same girl she is before Mitsue and Romm. Still mostly bumbling about her way through her wacky wahoo life reacting to things around her as opposed to acting towards a goal that resolves her overarching conflict, and most of this is because the character that knows more than her is either out of the picture or just dismissive.

I will way this again. If this weren't the series' 6th year in publication, If this 59th chapter was from 4 years ago, I would have no problem with the series.

If you've read this far and you don't feel combative towards my opinion as most people here, thank you. If your intent is still on mocking me, you're just proving my "brownie point" argument. I won't blame you for following the grain to feel accepted by the majority,

 

[K_Takuya]

Claim that you want a genuine discussion, then immediately hand out low brow insults. And that's after your original post was just a complaint about the plot not moving forward.

Discussion: Sure, let's see...

• There are different genres, which have different rules. Horror goes with a feeling of helplessness. (Vs what I would call "Action Horror", e.g. an anti-monster spec ops team. This is pitched to different audiences and/or emotions.) Clearly Mieruko is closer to normal horror because she herself has almost no defense of offense against them. All she has is endurance.
• There's also "Slice of Life" which is primarily about living with no big plots, just fairly normal life. Mieruko is Slice of Life + Horror, aka "Slice of Horror".
• As is typical of SoL, characterization is fairly important. We see that with Mieruko's and all the side characters having the character be slowly developed. E.g. Tattooed Yakuza Cat man, and Cat Teacher.
• Now if I were Mieruko, I would be doing my damnedest to understand more about these things, and how to deal with them. But that's not what the story is. Doing that would change the fundamental feel/genre of the story. Your complaint is that tea isn't sufficiently coffee'ish. ... Action Horror is great, but this Slice of Horror is damned good and pretty unique as well. (Closest that comes to mind is "Mushi-shi" -- though that's more Slice of Strange rather than Slice of Horror.)
• There's not really any deep plot here. These spirit things are around and just part of the world. It's not like Mieruko or anyone else is going to eradicate them. Probably they're more like "spiritual pollution" that derives from normal human existence. We are slowly learning more about the world, but that sort of development is not the main priority of the story. That's more of a slow background thing as is typical of an SoL story.

PS: If you want to have genuine discussions, then just make your points. Throwing out insults just hurts whatever valid argument you might have and makes you look like an ass.

You see, folks, if someone didn't present themselves as someone who is interested in a genuine discussion, no discussion will be made. Writing does take effort, and I'm not spending it on someone like this guy. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just look at the reply he made towards me prior to this.

I liked the other guy that I replied. He asked, I answered, he wants me to elaborate my answer, and so I did.

 

[NotYoshihide]

I'm certain that the local spirit intervened at just the right moment, then when Hana thanked it with the bun it decided to cosplay as Lambda Rabbit just like everyone else!

Despite being eldritch horror looking things, I think there's a fair amount of truly benevolent spirits. The Train Axe Man being one of them. Not sure what's possessing Michi though.

I'm also really sad about Julia. I wish Miko would just come clean to her about their spiritual powers. Julia deserves to know she's not weak! She's just… not strong. And Miko shouldn't be indulging her inferiority complex!

 

[wizard_mouse]

Can we get actual nice looking "good" spirits???, like the cat spirits from a while ago???

 

[komachi29]

Alright, thanks for humoring me on this. Much appreciated.
First of all, the brownie point thing. I have voiced my frustration with this series on comments of previous chapters multiple times I believe. Most of the time, the reply I receive is something along that previous asshat's reply. Surely you can see how my experience affect my expectations, so I think me being precautious is justified especially with how tribal a lot of people are with their opinions. You being pretty open to discussing this is an exception, not the rule. I hoped you didn't take it the wrong way if you were being genuine before, so I apologize. I hope you understand.

Now, from how I see it, so far within the story the 1 major move forward made in the series is Mieruko's interaction with the Godmother and Romm. Not any particular interaction, but just the fact that Mieruko found them. Why? Because in this series' storytelling, the Godmother and Romm serves as mentor characters, akin to Abbe Faria for Edmond Dantes in The Count of Monte Cristo. A character (or in this case, 2) that are able to teach and give the main character means towards resolving her conflict.

You said that multiple efforts were made by the protag, and yes, I see your point. But, my frustration lies with how a lot of those efforts are barely reciprocated if at all. In the hospital scene within Michiru arc, Romm did in fact teach Mieruko the fact that she sees "the other side" much clearer than everyone else using the reflection on the window. But this is a no-shit-sherlock information because she's known all this by virtue of interacting with Niguredou.

Mieruko herself had an inkling of idea (and hoped) that she can communicate with the good ones, but she doesn't know which is which. This is the kind of thing I expect Mitsue and Romm to teach, but they didn't. As far as I can remember, MItsue's been out of the picture throughout Michiru arc and Romm are as dismissive as any mentor can get.

"A lot of them are dangerous, so just don't" is how I perceive Romm's advice (and also how Mieruko perceives it I think but do correct me if I'm completely wrong). But Mieruko wants to actually know what she should do in multiple paranormal interactions, so she goes on a trial-and-error mode with no basic knowledge that Romm and/or Mitsue should've given. That's how she almost crashed into a truck, that's how she went panic mode when her brother touched the cursed snowman, that's how she basically go about her life since the start of this series.

It's too dangerous because she has no experience, yet no one taught her anything so she starts grasping on straws to have experience. But by trying to gain experience she gets into dangerous situations. Because she could get into dangerous situations, Romm told her to not even try. By not trying, she gains no experience. She got no experience, so it's dangerous. The circle of inadequacy feeds itself, and Mieruko doesn't get anywhere close to resolving her own conflict.

By this point if you're still reading, I hope you can see that my frustration is not on Mieruko the character, but on the storytelling of this series as a whole. By finding someone she regards as mentor, the story as a whole moved forward 1 step. After that, we got to Michiru's arc where there's no real growth for Mieruko as a character. On the contrary, the mystery just... expands further with the whole "unassuming middle aged guy" and the "dad". Don't get me wrong, I LOVE mystery. But having it expand while the story barely progresses is, for me at the very least, frustrating. Which brings me to the bigger picture of my frustration. This series' pacing.

I know for a fact that if I found this series for the first time today, I wouldn't be bitching about it like this. If I read this series in one go, it would be fine. But I'm not. I followed this series right from the pre-serialization. This series is written with the pacing of a biweekly series, yet it took 6 years just for the story be in practically a stand-still ever since the end of cursed shrine arc. Mieruko as a character today is practically still the same girl she is before Mitsue and Romm. Still mostly bumbling about her way through her wacky wahoo life reacting to things around her as opposed to acting towards a goal that resolves her overarching conflict, and most of this is because the character that knows more than her is either out of the picture or just dismissive.

I will way this again. If this weren't the series' 6th year in publication, If this 59th chapter was from 4 years ago, I would have no problem with the series.

If you've read this far and you don't feel combative towards my opinion as most people here, thank you. If your intent is still on mocking me, you're just proving my "brownie point" argument. I won't blame you for following the grain to feel accepted by the majority,

"Surely you can see how my experience affect my expectations"
i don't, how long you've been on internet anyway? you surely have to known that you'll met all kind of people? i have gone to argue with tons of people with bad faith. but if i never argue with someone they're a blank slate, i'll judge what kind person you are later after few exchange.

"so far within the story the 1 major move forward made in the series"
you already contradicted yourself. you said the story haven't move forward this past 3 years? you sure you actually read/remember the series lately?

"But, my frustration lies with how a lot of those efforts are barely reciprocated if at all"
wdym? explain what kind effort miko should do there without herself getting killed? remember how many times romm dying? remember when miko tried to talk to one she almost getting killed? remember when she want to go to inari shrine by herself and almost getting killed? please, enlighten me on this subject

"But this is a no-shit-sherlock information because she's known all this by virtue of interacting with Niguredou."
it meant miko power is much stronger even above romm, which make it much dangerous for miko sometimes get confused between flesh and spirit. so it's an disadvantaged, a huge on at that and it's information miko doesnt know well.


"This is the kind of thing I expect Mitsue and Romm to teach, but they didn't"
uuh you don't remember mitsue and romm don't want miko to get involved and want her live as normal person.
remember what happened to strong medium in the series? miko's dad died and mitsue's master died
it's too dangerous romm even said so.

"MItsue's been out of the picture throughout Michiru arc"
she's back on training

" Romm are as dismissive as any mentor can get"
wdym? give me one example romm didn't out right help them?

"But Mieruko wants to actually know what she should do in multiple paranormal interactions"
romm stop her at this point , she's survive for 2 years with ignoring them and want to stay that way

" so she goes on a trial-and-error mode"
uhh no, she's not doing that. she did once and stop because it's dangerous

"That's how she almost crashed into a truck"
no, she did that ignore michiru and coincidentaly, move plot forward with her admitted to hospital and aware of the presence of scyte guy

"that's how she went panic mode when her brother touched the cursed snowman"
what her option other than run? supposedly she already train, in span of 2 weeks you honestly think she can face this spirit? and, coincidentaly this also move the plot again that her father still powerful and seto ghoul have been spying on them.


"t's too dangerous because she has no experience"
it's too dangerous if they teach her. why do you think they want her to do the usual ignoring instead? why do you think they'll help her in every way but that?

"By not trying, she gains no experience"
ok what if she tried and instantly get killed? what then? even as someone with experience like romm got himself hurt and dying.

"Mieruko doesn't get anywhere close to resolving her own conflict"
what conflict? she's just surviving, if you out in the jungle are you gonna start killing every predator and every poisonous animal? you don't right?

"I hope you can see that my frustration is not on Mieruko the character,"
sorry, i still don't

" I followed this series right from the pre-serialization"
me too

"yet it took 6 years just for the story be in practically a stand-still"
we disagreed on this and i have argumet is solid to why it wasn't the case

"same girl she is before Mitsue and Romm"
wrong, method still the same but she's have been growing since then

" Still mostly bumbling about her way through her wacky wahoo life reacting to things"
i mean i debunk this pretty much so idk why you still cling onto this?

"and most of this is because the character that knows more than her is either out of the picture or just dismissive."
i already explained this, if you don't mind high school girl severely injured or killed then that's your moral. im pretty sure most people won't

"If this 59th chapter was from 4 years ago, I would have no problem with the series."
i mean that boiled down to you being impatient not the story badly written. so want advice? forget this series exist for 10 years and came back for bulk reading

"If you've read this far and you don't feel combative towards my opinion as most people here, thank you. If your intent is still on mocking me, you're just proving my "brownie point" argument"
holy fuck you are sensitive little worm, go to "Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita" discussion for chapter 78. it's me vs 7 people and all of them ran like coward. it's tuesday for me, won't change my perspective for someone i havent met.
you just have 1 bad experience and you cry this much? stop with water work and order of french cries.
it's pathetic

 

[Cracckkkerrrs]

Why are people expecting plot progression from a slice of life, comedy, horror manga?

Are people expecting Miko to have a training arc where she becomes a ghost buster and then fights all the ghosts?

These genres don’t usually have much plot progression, so why expect it in this manga? Sure this manga has ‘arcs’ but so does almost every other manga.

This manga primarily focuses on Miko trying to live her life while having to act like she can’t see ghost around her. Not much plot progression here.

 

[MandrakeKing]

she didn't ask for anything so I think it's fine

She asked them to help bring Julia back with the bunny bun as payment.