Modern MoGal if - Oni's Love Rule - Vol. 1 Ch. 2.5 - Notice from Author on DeviantArt

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@unknownfactor "Creepiness" is a subjective feeling and one that should never be used as an argument against romantical relationships if we wish to learn anything from the past (homosexual oppression and so on). Also just because someone is way younger than me doesn't mean that he/she could potentially be my child, I'm not genghis khan, I didn't have sex with every woman on the planet. Also I do not agree that an age gap is bound to a large difference in maturity. Maturity isn't directly related to one's age but rather the knowledge and experience went through. Which is why we can observe massive differences of maturity among people of the same age. Also just because someone has more life experience than you do doesn't mean that he/she is taking advantage of you, people with good intentions do exist, weither they are the majority or not, I don't know since I don't have any good statistics to say that.

I have a few things to say regarding your example: First, is that you have depicted one specific case when I asked you to show "Why would you necessarily be taking advantage of their naiveness if you date someone outside of your age bracket?" Here is another case of age gap relationship: A young man (man and not kid, unless you are a super genius, you aren't graduating from high school as a kid) with his HS diploma who is really into that older woman who has 10 more years than him, he makes multiple advances and after rejecting him a bunch of times, the woman decide to give it a chance and they become a happy couple afterwards. Hard to say that the woman is taking advantage of the younger man since she rejected him initially, right? Of course i'm not saying that every age gap relationship is like that but I'm showing that an older party isn't always going to take advantage of the younger one in a romantical relationship.
The second thing is that you are still using the "he was a child when the otherone was in highschool" when it's pretty much irrelevant since they are now both adults.

"but in most cases it's just a bad idea" How do you know that? I'm not saying that you are lying but I'm rather skeptical especially on the internet. If you have any source to confirm what you are saying then post it.

"Not to mention the problems that will occur later in life when the older person in the relationship starts suffering the problems that come with old age long before the other person (and likely dies long before the other, leaving them alone)." I do agree that it's a big issue of such relationships but it's something everyone is aware of and it should be up to the individuals concerned to appreciate that information and to decide weither or not they still want to pursue their romance. After all, some people still want to own pets despite their really low life expectancy. the point here of course isn't that people are as emotionally invested in their pet as they are in their husband/wife but rather that they are fine with bonding with people/animals even if they will leave them behind in few decades.

"A teacher dating a kid? No. That's never alright." I dunno about "never alright" but I do think that it should be forbidden because of how much kids trust their teachers. And anyway if they are serious about each other they can wait a few years until the kid graduate/becomes adult.

"it's a work of fiction so who cares?" Exactly, no actual people are suffering in fiction. Hence why we are free to depict torture, human traficking, murder and genocide. All way worse then an adult dating a kid.

"It's ironic I see someone here mentioning Nazis, cause ya know, that's exactly what happened when people just ignored things that were morally wrong." This is completely unrelated, the nazi ideology didn't originate from a work of fiction and it wasn't popularized through them. It was due to the german national socialist party riding on the german resentment after the great war and the misery caused by the great depression. Fiction is fiction and a fiction's writer shouldn't be held accountable for what his readers thinks or do, they are adults who are responsible of themselves and if they are kids then they have a guardian whose duty is to set them on the right path.
 
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@meinburn You've never heard of the nazi propaganda campaigns or a little book called Mein Kampf? It was one of the major supports that let the nazi ideology spread and eventually take over all of Germany and beyond. There are tons of historical references to it, and it is one of the key components to their rise. The Nazis eventually took over the arts and culture centers of Germany to help spread their ideology through fictional written works (including re-writes of popular things at the time), fine arts, and movies. Heck, their whole campaign was all about fictional narrative spinning, including often outright lying to present whatever story they wanted in the best light possible- and doing so in ways that would have mass appeal and be understandable to the lowest common denominator.

But hey, fiction has no effect on people ever and everyone totally knows right from wrong and people would never let something influence how they think, right?
 
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@unknownfactor no, it wasn't, Mein Kampf had none of those effect, it was even recognised as a pretty bad book about their ideology by nazis themself, don't talk about history when you don't understand it just to justify your insane fear of a drawing.
 
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This artist missed the point like an absolute champ.

Listen. This has NOTHING to do with cultural differences. I've have read many manga dealing with romances between large age difference, also including the teacher-student romances. They managed to handle those scenarios with respect.

The problem is that you appeared to have no respect for this delicate scenario. The characters were insufferable.

I'm not rooting for either character as one is a no-spine enabling moron of an adult with no boundaries and the other is an immature brat who will exploit sadistic magical measures if she doesn't get her way, targeting her "lover" and any person for that matter.

THAT'S the problem.
 
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There's a manga called "OneexShota" and it's literally about a woman wanting an underage boy to rape her. Yet, no one is talking about how wrong it is. This just proves no one actually cares about the morals. People are just using this series to grab attention and show off how much of an "intellectual" they really are by typing out an essay which I'm sure no one even reads (excluding birds of the same feather).
 
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@hikufalafel You probably didn't read it or didn't pay enough attention, since the whole premise of the "OneexShota" manga is that she wants orcs to rape her but she doesn't see the kid as a potential partner, thus leading to moments of vulnerability where she exposes herself. It isn't "literally about a woman wanting an underage boy to rape her", as stated by you.
 
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@Ribath Dude.
My point here isn't about what the premise of the story is. My point here is that there are practically tons of manga and stories out there that depicts "Womanxunderaged-boys" relationship but no one bats an eyes or even critic/comment about the immorality. Yet when the gender is reversed, everyone loses their sht.
 
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@hikufalafel Good thing your point isn't about the premise, since it was wrong. Also, you didn't see me refuting your point of view anywhere, only correcting something that was indeed wrong. I guess that's the very definition of being functionally illiterate.
 
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Fucking westerners ruining a perfectly fine fiction.

What if the creator decided to discard a cute idea because they are afraid of offending the westerners?

FFS. It's not enough you colonized our physical land, you want to colonize our fictional land too?
 
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Its funny how even "Onee-san wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga arimasu"'s artist (https://mangadex.org/title/26432/onee-san-wa-joshi-shougakusei-ni-kyoumi-ga-arimasu) did the same exact thing, they made an april fools joke by making it genderbent and posted it on twitter so they could see how people automatically changed their idea of it when it was an older man and a shota instead of an older woman and a loli
 
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Any claim of people complaining of this being the "PC Police" are being dishonest. I, actually really like these kind of stories, ie teacher and student love story. Here's the thing though. It's already a taboo socially and a death sentence professionally. These taboos are set in place and they are respected because they have their reasons for existing. You have these obstacles in the characters way. In order to get the characters to their end goal of being together, you have to make them as likeable as possible. You need me as the reader to make me want to root for these characters to succeed, all while somewhat respecting the rules of the society set in place. Overcome these obstacles and achieve happiness.

But the massive problem is this. The characters here are awful. The girl is incredibly immature, psychopathic and possessive. She uses her magic on him when she gets jealous. The teacher guy has no respect for the teacher/student boundary and just flounces it like it's nothing. And he just lets her walk all over him. The teacher/student relationship is just used as a casual setting, and just to treat it so flippantly is just horrifying.

The artist completely missed the point when they stated this is a "west vs east" thing. No, moron. This is a "your characters and writing are atrocious to the point of them and it being unredeemable".

This could easily been a great idea if executed correctly. But this horrific mess is what we got, and that's why I'm so angry at it.
 

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