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Mujintou de Elf to Kyoudou Seikatsu - Vol. 2 Ch. 5
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@Akabane politics and background aside, look at the bundy ranch for an example of irl standoff with government officials.
You have to make it worth the loss of life, they can't just carpet bomb the area, what if they destroy what they want. sending in special forces to deal with a threat that MAY be able to negate a gun advantage is a one time deal, its not worth it till you have a damn good plan, and on the side of magic, they may have their own but is it worth sending in what little they have and risk losing it all?
at this point there has been a minor show of force, so it will escalate, and irl would likely end in a standoff/siege and this could go on indefinitely if the government isn't willing to lose everything they send at them.
You have to make it worth the loss of life, they can't just carpet bomb the area, what if they destroy what they want. sending in special forces to deal with a threat that MAY be able to negate a gun advantage is a one time deal, its not worth it till you have a damn good plan, and on the side of magic, they may have their own but is it worth sending in what little they have and risk losing it all?
at this point there has been a minor show of force, so it will escalate, and irl would likely end in a standoff/siege and this could go on indefinitely if the government isn't willing to lose everything they send at them.
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Why would a singular photo of someone with long ears be used as proof? That could have easily been written off as cosplay. She looks human in all other aspects besides her ears. Also they are really hammering the government bad trope too hard. Actually trying to buy a living person. But eh who knows, she could just be lying off her ass and be from some private company and not from the gov. If you wanted to expand upon that you could make the situation viral and point all eyes on those people.
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We'll see though, I guess. The next couple of chapters were interesting.
pretty sure she's from the government; there were several instances where she explicitly says she is. It's just the author is pretty bad/lazy at exposition on that side of things.
We'll see though, I guess. The next couple of chapters were interesting.
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If the "government" rolled up to my private property and demands it to be handed over then I would turn around and say to them I'll hand it over if you hand over the control of the entire government to me then just screw them even more I will also say that there is nothing here apart from a house which the occupants live in then return all ownership back
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goddamn corpo dogs...looks like we need a Vault Hunter
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The only actual referencing to GovtWomanâ„¢ having any authority is when her assistant tells her they should get going.
The most common usage of her (raw) title is for Congress(wo)men, but doesn't exclude her from being a member of (any council of people), including but not limited to [Ministry of Oppai Elf Nee-sans] and [Council of Otherworld Affairs].
For consistency reasons (i.e. if we go with Congresswoman we can't change it later and if we go with councilwoman that's wack if she really is a member of the diet), but also the fact that we didn't know why the fuck a Member of Diet would go there in person, we went with Mam and called it a day. We didn't put a TLNote as we didn't think the conspiracy theorists would get this far.
Well played.
Take all this as you may,
The only actual referencing to GovtWomanâ„¢ having any authority is when her assistant tells her they should get going.
The most common usage of her (raw) title is for Congress(wo)men, but doesn't exclude her from being a member of (any council of people), including but not limited to [Ministry of Oppai Elf Nee-sans] and [Council of Otherworld Affairs].
For consistency reasons (i.e. if we go with Congresswoman we can't change it later and if we go with councilwoman that's wack if she really is a member of the diet), but also the fact that we didn't know why the fuck a Member of Diet would go there in person, we went with Mam and called it a day. We didn't put a TLNote as we didn't think the conspiracy theorists would get this far.
Well played.
Take all this as you may,
GovtWomanâ„¢ won't appear for the foreseeable future
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I think the author got confused, and let out a bit of wuxia, or a bit of stereotypical medieval-nobility sense of supremacy.
"Peasant"? Seriously? I don't even doubt the translators' choice of words. The attitude here was bizarre.
It makes sense that the government will want to take control of a very potentially volatile, and new, scenario in its sovereignty. But whether she is with the gov or not is a different matter, the way it was depicted is more fit for a Chinese' mentality of "my dick is bigger than yours", or a ye olde fantasy world. It shows that the main focus of this series is about tits and ass, nothing much beyond that is properly thought about.
"Peasant"? Seriously? I don't even doubt the translators' choice of words. The attitude here was bizarre.
It makes sense that the government will want to take control of a very potentially volatile, and new, scenario in its sovereignty. But whether she is with the gov or not is a different matter, the way it was depicted is more fit for a Chinese' mentality of "my dick is bigger than yours", or a ye olde fantasy world. It shows that the main focus of this series is about tits and ass, nothing much beyond that is properly thought about.
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1.) You don't hold a drawn bow like that that long (for good reason, doing so is exhausting and will cause muscle fatigue and shaking very quickly, even if you're an archer used to higher draw weight bows). Granted, we're not talking about a high poundage warbow here, but still. You can draw it in the blink of an eye and loose it. You're not going to miss at that range, either.
2.) Eminent domain. Virtually every country has it. And given how Japan treats rights of citizens as... suggestions... rather than hard set things and what their police alone can get away with doing to you, I wouldn't be surprised if they had the legal authority, somewhere and somehow, to just take the island seeing as it is Japanese soil.
3.) Politician being there "officially unofficially" is dumb and provides absolutely zero plausible deniability and her being a megacunt and calling people "peasants" is hilarious even by manga bad guy standards. (Bonus points for her asking him to throw in the elf with the purchase like he was a farm animal or something. Seriously, what was going through that woman's head?)
4.) The guy is a millionaire. He can hire a security company even if his eroelf wasn't enough.
Ironically, the dumb politicians dumbfuck antics in being there "officially unofficially" like that and being that much of a piece of shit could turn public sentiment against the government if it went viral. And you could easily make a bigger deal out of it than the Japanese government would rather deal with by appealing to the United Nations, America, The Hague/ICJ, anyone that you could get the attention of.
2.) Eminent domain. Virtually every country has it. And given how Japan treats rights of citizens as... suggestions... rather than hard set things and what their police alone can get away with doing to you, I wouldn't be surprised if they had the legal authority, somewhere and somehow, to just take the island seeing as it is Japanese soil.
3.) Politician being there "officially unofficially" is dumb and provides absolutely zero plausible deniability and her being a megacunt and calling people "peasants" is hilarious even by manga bad guy standards. (Bonus points for her asking him to throw in the elf with the purchase like he was a farm animal or something. Seriously, what was going through that woman's head?)
4.) The guy is a millionaire. He can hire a security company even if his eroelf wasn't enough.
Ironically, the dumb politicians dumbfuck antics in being there "officially unofficially" like that and being that much of a piece of shit could turn public sentiment against the government if it went viral. And you could easily make a bigger deal out of it than the Japanese government would rather deal with by appealing to the United Nations, America, The Hague/ICJ, anyone that you could get the attention of.
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Eminent domain. I'm sure Japan has it or an equivalent measure. And although Japan has a very, "Fuck your rights, kudasai soshite arigatogozaimashita" attitude towards their own people (lol, Japanese police), the citizen doesn't have to be a complete push-over on the matter (although knowing Japan, they more often than not will be - a Japanese person that knows how to say "no" is a rare thing).
I mean, it can even be so simply as playing stupid. "Why is the government sending someone here to my island off-the-record and wanting to buy my island for the government?" "What do you mean 'otherworlders' and 'dungeons'? You've been reading too much manga and light novels! How could you know there's a 'portal to another world' on my island? I haven't seen any scientists here! For all I know this is a scam or corrupt dealings!"
And that's before you even get into the more direct things like using public perception against them or getting the international courts involved. And, even if it's somehow actually true, Japan doesn't want to open up the legal and political can of worms trying to seize the legally owned land of a citizen for reasons like "we want to secure ports and dungeons to other dimensions/worlds and seize elf magic users" because it's just going to make them look like a laughingstock and bring too much attention.
Would've been better to send someone that actually knows the definition of "diplomacy" instead of this dumb antagonistic bitch that threatened him. Had the government gone there and asked for his co-operation and having scientists or military there to study and secure it to make sure it wasn't a threat, it'd be a lot more easy to agree to than "GIVE ME YOUR ISLAND SO I CAN GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT, YOU WORTHLESS SMELLY DUMB PEASANT OF A WORM."
Eminent domain. I'm sure Japan has it or an equivalent measure. And although Japan has a very, "Fuck your rights, kudasai soshite arigatogozaimashita" attitude towards their own people (lol, Japanese police), the citizen doesn't have to be a complete push-over on the matter (although knowing Japan, they more often than not will be - a Japanese person that knows how to say "no" is a rare thing).
I mean, it can even be so simply as playing stupid. "Why is the government sending someone here to my island off-the-record and wanting to buy my island for the government?" "What do you mean 'otherworlders' and 'dungeons'? You've been reading too much manga and light novels! How could you know there's a 'portal to another world' on my island? I haven't seen any scientists here! For all I know this is a scam or corrupt dealings!"
And that's before you even get into the more direct things like using public perception against them or getting the international courts involved. And, even if it's somehow actually true, Japan doesn't want to open up the legal and political can of worms trying to seize the legally owned land of a citizen for reasons like "we want to secure ports and dungeons to other dimensions/worlds and seize elf magic users" because it's just going to make them look like a laughingstock and bring too much attention.
Would've been better to send someone that actually knows the definition of "diplomacy" instead of this dumb antagonistic bitch that threatened him. Had the government gone there and asked for his co-operation and having scientists or military there to study and secure it to make sure it wasn't a threat, it'd be a lot more easy to agree to than "GIVE ME YOUR ISLAND SO I CAN GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT, YOU WORTHLESS SMELLY DUMB PEASANT OF A WORM."
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In reality, the government, no matter the country, has means to track your every move, even on an uninhabited island.
Had a relative that was suspicious of government types snooping around his property (Literally in the middle of nowhere).
Installed some windows that had the glass opaque on one side.
Later in the month, was contacted by a tax re-assessor from the IRS, ignored the letters the sent, until they send a satellite photo of his property... with him installing the windows in that point of time.
Needless to say, he sent those tax re-assessment forms in right-quick when that happened.
In layman's terms, that elf would've been spotted from LEO satellites, internet or not.
Had a relative that was suspicious of government types snooping around his property (Literally in the middle of nowhere).
Installed some windows that had the glass opaque on one side.
Later in the month, was contacted by a tax re-assessor from the IRS, ignored the letters the sent, until they send a satellite photo of his property... with him installing the windows in that point of time.
Needless to say, he sent those tax re-assessment forms in right-quick when that happened.
In layman's terms, that elf would've been spotted from LEO satellites, internet or not.
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