Musuko ga Kawaikute Shikataganai Mazoku no Hahaoya - Vol. 9 Ch. 202 - Demon Mother: My Son Is So Cute, I Just Can’t Help Myself!
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Well, as the series ends--and Doctagon and the other translators, I hope this wouldn't seem too self indulgent--but I do have a little essay I wrote up about some of the social themes I saw developed in this manga over the years. I'd be interested in hearing other folks' thoughts on it, if this doesn't seem to weird (and if it does I'll delete the post of course).
Forgive me for palavering but I figure I wouldn’t get another chance for this now that the series is over. Is anyone else kind of interested not only in the story of Gospel and Lorem but also the way fatherhood is portrayed through Zeke? I think a historian or sociologist smarter than I am could write a neat report on how fatherhood in anime and manga at least has changed over the last 20 years by looking at this and a couple other mangas.
I was thinking of how fathers have generally been portrayed in both Western and Japanese animation. They’ve more often than not been portrayed as hapless buffoons: Homer Simpson, as fat, dumb, and oafish as he is, would be the prime example, but there’s also Peter Griffin from Family Guy (who’s even dumber), Randy Marsh from South Park (who’s not as dumb as the other two, but a lot of episodes revolve around his stupid and silly schemes, like fighting Bat-Dad), and so on. And it doesn’t seem to be just a Western thing either. Kogoro, Ran’s dad from Detective Conan, isn’t quite on the level of Homer and Peter but he does seem to be a comic relief goof; Conan himself is obviously a much better detective and Ran’s mom dumped him because he was too much of a lecher. The fathers in shows like, say, Urusei Yatsura and Kochikame are also typically goofballs rather than the sort of “father knows best” types we might have seen in, say, 50s media. In more serious series the same applies. Amuro Ray’s father in Gundam 0079 was distant and arguably neglectful, and of course Gendo Ikari’s very troubled—to say the least!—relationship with Shinji forms the basis for much of the psychological drama at the heart of the untouchably famous Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Now think of Zeke in this series. Compared to the other father figures I’ve mentioned, he’s pretty much a “Superdad” in every sense. Not only is he very buff and handsome (compare his muscles to Peter and Homer’s flab), he’s very intelligent (again, in contrast to Peter and Homer’s oafishness, and Kogoro’s comparatively crappy detective skills), he’s responsible for maintaining his household and their finances (He’s an excellent cook and takes care of issues like the home loan, in contrast to Homer and Peter, who rely on their wives to keep their families from starving to death), and he’s a sensitive and loving husband and father (See how he takes care of Lorem and Gospel, contrasted with Homer and Peter’s bumbling parenting, Kogoro Mouri’s womanizing, etc).
It's not just Zeke. A lot of the manga I’ve been reading recently have featured a decidedly more competent breed of fathers. “My Ideal Sponger Life” is an isekai about a generic salaryman living the ‘ideal life’ of having sex with a beautiful princess and being a pampered royal all day, but when he actually gets her pregnant and has a son with her, he starts getting into politics (and being surprisingly good at it) to protect the kid from the various political enemies who could harm him. Lloyd from Spy x Family is a cool James Bond type who’s also an excellent husband to Yor and adoptive father to Anya (even if it started out as a fake, his feelings are definitely real now). The protagonist of “Way of the Househusband” isn’t a father (yet), but he’s both a badass Yakuza and an excellent, well, househusband who manages to make even cutesy bento seem cool. I could go on but it seems to me these sorts of characters have become much more common since 2015.
Why might this be? One obvious answer is propaganda. We’ve all heard the jokes about (ex-, both literally and now that he’s dead) Prime Minister Abe telling Japan to have sex and not-so-subtly encouraging parenthood. One way is through anime and manga, with all the series about happy families and mothers with babies and so on. Most of the time when we think about this, it’s from the mother’s perspective. But it seems to me encouraging women to have babies isn’t enough, you’ll want to focus on the other half of the couple too, namely the men you want to become dads. And if fathers are constantly portrayed as bumbling fools, it’s not really an attractive enticement to become one yourself. Thus, the recent emphasis on male protagonists who not only sire children but also look cool, capable, and handsome while doing so, like Zeke, Lloyd, Immortal Tatsu (as a husband at least), and so on. I suppose I’d also argue this is not only aspirational but instructional—if you want guys to become dads, you need to show them how to actually do a good job, and Homer causing meltdowns or Kogoro leering at every pretty lady in the vicinity are not good examples. Characters like Zeke at least give young men some idea of the skills they ought to have as heads of household—good cooking, being on top of their finances, and so on.
Still, that’s only half of the equation. As much as we joke and meme about it, I think this change is only distantly related to Abe’s schemes. It’s not like the Japanese government has THAT much power over what’s portrayed in media, after all. I think it’s more likely these changes reflect the new crop of artists who were born in the late 80s to early 00s and have grown up and entered the industry in the mid 10s and early 20s.
Not to go too far into historical analysis, but it seems to me that IRL the expectations of Japanese men, both externally and internally imposed, have changed a lot since the notorious economic crash of the 1990s. Before then, the ideal was the classic provider: The Japanese man would give nearly everything to his company in return for constant employment, and his wife would run the house and tend to the children. During the 90s, however, the crash meant that many companies could no longer fulfill the ‘steady employment’ part of the bargain. So many Japanese men no longer felt the obligation to become an overworked salaryman, and thus find new sources of meaning and contentment. One of these avenues, I hypothesize, was to take a more involved role in family life. Rather than the old days, where the father would fulfill his familial obligations by working out of the home and providing monetarily, with the mother taking care of the family’s emotional needs, a lot of young men coming of age today (and of course many young women as well) want to take more pleasure in the raising of their children and building up a home themselves.
Those are just my thoughts, though, I figured other fans of this wonderful series would be able to add their own agreements or criticisms
Forgive me for palavering but I figure I wouldn’t get another chance for this now that the series is over. Is anyone else kind of interested not only in the story of Gospel and Lorem but also the way fatherhood is portrayed through Zeke? I think a historian or sociologist smarter than I am could write a neat report on how fatherhood in anime and manga at least has changed over the last 20 years by looking at this and a couple other mangas.
I was thinking of how fathers have generally been portrayed in both Western and Japanese animation. They’ve more often than not been portrayed as hapless buffoons: Homer Simpson, as fat, dumb, and oafish as he is, would be the prime example, but there’s also Peter Griffin from Family Guy (who’s even dumber), Randy Marsh from South Park (who’s not as dumb as the other two, but a lot of episodes revolve around his stupid and silly schemes, like fighting Bat-Dad), and so on. And it doesn’t seem to be just a Western thing either. Kogoro, Ran’s dad from Detective Conan, isn’t quite on the level of Homer and Peter but he does seem to be a comic relief goof; Conan himself is obviously a much better detective and Ran’s mom dumped him because he was too much of a lecher. The fathers in shows like, say, Urusei Yatsura and Kochikame are also typically goofballs rather than the sort of “father knows best” types we might have seen in, say, 50s media. In more serious series the same applies. Amuro Ray’s father in Gundam 0079 was distant and arguably neglectful, and of course Gendo Ikari’s very troubled—to say the least!—relationship with Shinji forms the basis for much of the psychological drama at the heart of the untouchably famous Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Now think of Zeke in this series. Compared to the other father figures I’ve mentioned, he’s pretty much a “Superdad” in every sense. Not only is he very buff and handsome (compare his muscles to Peter and Homer’s flab), he’s very intelligent (again, in contrast to Peter and Homer’s oafishness, and Kogoro’s comparatively crappy detective skills), he’s responsible for maintaining his household and their finances (He’s an excellent cook and takes care of issues like the home loan, in contrast to Homer and Peter, who rely on their wives to keep their families from starving to death), and he’s a sensitive and loving husband and father (See how he takes care of Lorem and Gospel, contrasted with Homer and Peter’s bumbling parenting, Kogoro Mouri’s womanizing, etc).
It's not just Zeke. A lot of the manga I’ve been reading recently have featured a decidedly more competent breed of fathers. “My Ideal Sponger Life” is an isekai about a generic salaryman living the ‘ideal life’ of having sex with a beautiful princess and being a pampered royal all day, but when he actually gets her pregnant and has a son with her, he starts getting into politics (and being surprisingly good at it) to protect the kid from the various political enemies who could harm him. Lloyd from Spy x Family is a cool James Bond type who’s also an excellent husband to Yor and adoptive father to Anya (even if it started out as a fake, his feelings are definitely real now). The protagonist of “Way of the Househusband” isn’t a father (yet), but he’s both a badass Yakuza and an excellent, well, househusband who manages to make even cutesy bento seem cool. I could go on but it seems to me these sorts of characters have become much more common since 2015.
Why might this be? One obvious answer is propaganda. We’ve all heard the jokes about (ex-, both literally and now that he’s dead) Prime Minister Abe telling Japan to have sex and not-so-subtly encouraging parenthood. One way is through anime and manga, with all the series about happy families and mothers with babies and so on. Most of the time when we think about this, it’s from the mother’s perspective. But it seems to me encouraging women to have babies isn’t enough, you’ll want to focus on the other half of the couple too, namely the men you want to become dads. And if fathers are constantly portrayed as bumbling fools, it’s not really an attractive enticement to become one yourself. Thus, the recent emphasis on male protagonists who not only sire children but also look cool, capable, and handsome while doing so, like Zeke, Lloyd, Immortal Tatsu (as a husband at least), and so on. I suppose I’d also argue this is not only aspirational but instructional—if you want guys to become dads, you need to show them how to actually do a good job, and Homer causing meltdowns or Kogoro leering at every pretty lady in the vicinity are not good examples. Characters like Zeke at least give young men some idea of the skills they ought to have as heads of household—good cooking, being on top of their finances, and so on.
Still, that’s only half of the equation. As much as we joke and meme about it, I think this change is only distantly related to Abe’s schemes. It’s not like the Japanese government has THAT much power over what’s portrayed in media, after all. I think it’s more likely these changes reflect the new crop of artists who were born in the late 80s to early 00s and have grown up and entered the industry in the mid 10s and early 20s.
Not to go too far into historical analysis, but it seems to me that IRL the expectations of Japanese men, both externally and internally imposed, have changed a lot since the notorious economic crash of the 1990s. Before then, the ideal was the classic provider: The Japanese man would give nearly everything to his company in return for constant employment, and his wife would run the house and tend to the children. During the 90s, however, the crash meant that many companies could no longer fulfill the ‘steady employment’ part of the bargain. So many Japanese men no longer felt the obligation to become an overworked salaryman, and thus find new sources of meaning and contentment. One of these avenues, I hypothesize, was to take a more involved role in family life. Rather than the old days, where the father would fulfill his familial obligations by working out of the home and providing monetarily, with the mother taking care of the family’s emotional needs, a lot of young men coming of age today (and of course many young women as well) want to take more pleasure in the raising of their children and building up a home themselves.
Those are just my thoughts, though, I figured other fans of this wonderful series would be able to add their own agreements or criticisms
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I highly disagree that it was a concerted political effort to portray better father figures. There's probably a simpler explanation than that. All those kids during the 1990s after the economic bubble collapsed grew up and started becoming creators of popular media. These children who are now adults had fathers who had the positive father figures that their creations portray or they had the antithesis and wanted to convey something more positive than what they grew up with.Well, as the series ends--and Doctagon and the other translators, I hope this wouldn't seem too self indulgent--but I do have a little essay I wrote up about some of the social themes I saw developed in this manga over the years. I'd be interested in hearing other folks' thoughts on it, if this doesn't seem to weird (and if it does I'll delete the post of course).
Forgive me for palavering but I figure I wouldn’t get another chance for this now that the series is over. Is anyone else kind of interested not only in the story of Gospel and Lorem but also the way fatherhood is portrayed through Zeke? I think a historian or sociologist smarter than I am could write a neat report on how fatherhood in anime and manga at least has changed over the last 20 years by looking at this and a couple other mangas.
I was thinking of how fathers have generally been portrayed in both Western and Japanese animation. They’ve more often than not been portrayed as hapless buffoons: Homer Simpson, as fat, dumb, and oafish as he is, would be the prime example, but there’s also Peter Griffin from Family Guy (who’s even dumber), Randy Marsh from South Park (who’s not as dumb as the other two, but a lot of episodes revolve around his stupid and silly schemes, like fighting Bat-Dad), and so on. And it doesn’t seem to be just a Western thing either. Kogoro, Ran’s dad from Detective Conan, isn’t quite on the level of Homer and Peter but he does seem to be a comic relief goof; Conan himself is obviously a much better detective and Ran’s mom dumped him because he was too much of a lecher. The fathers in shows like, say, Urusei Yatsura and Kochikame are also typically goofballs rather than the sort of “father knows best” types we might have seen in, say, 50s media. In more serious series the same applies. Amuro Ray’s father in Gundam 0079 was distant and arguably neglectful, and of course Gendo Ikari’s very troubled—to say the least!—relationship with Shinji forms the basis for much of the psychological drama at the heart of the untouchably famous Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Now think of Zeke in this series. Compared to the other father figures I’ve mentioned, he’s pretty much a “Superdad” in every sense. Not only is he very buff and handsome (compare his muscles to Peter and Homer’s flab), he’s very intelligent (again, in contrast to Peter and Homer’s oafishness, and Kogoro’s comparatively crappy detective skills), he’s responsible for maintaining his household and their finances (He’s an excellent cook and takes care of issues like the home loan, in contrast to Homer and Peter, who rely on their wives to keep their families from starving to death), and he’s a sensitive and loving husband and father (See how he takes care of Lorem and Gospel, contrasted with Homer and Peter’s bumbling parenting, Kogoro Mouri’s womanizing, etc).
It's not just Zeke. A lot of the manga I’ve been reading recently have featured a decidedly more competent breed of fathers. “My Ideal Sponger Life” is an isekai about a generic salaryman living the ‘ideal life’ of having sex with a beautiful princess and being a pampered royal all day, but when he actually gets her pregnant and has a son with her, he starts getting into politics (and being surprisingly good at it) to protect the kid from the various political enemies who could harm him. Lloyd from Spy x Family is a cool James Bond type who’s also an excellent husband to Yor and adoptive father to Anya (even if it started out as a fake, his feelings are definitely real now). The protagonist of “Way of the Househusband” isn’t a father (yet), but he’s both a badass Yakuza and an excellent, well, househusband who manages to make even cutesy bento seem cool. I could go on but it seems to me these sorts of characters have become much more common since 2015.
Why might this be? One obvious answer is propaganda. We’ve all heard the jokes about (ex-, both literally and now that he’s dead) Prime Minister Abe telling Japan to have sex and not-so-subtly encouraging parenthood. One way is through anime and manga, with all the series about happy families and mothers with babies and so on. Most of the time when we think about this, it’s from the mother’s perspective. But it seems to me encouraging women to have babies isn’t enough, you’ll want to focus on the other half of the couple too, namely the men you want to become dads. And if fathers are constantly portrayed as bumbling fools, it’s not really an attractive enticement to become one yourself. Thus, the recent emphasis on male protagonists who not only sire children but also look cool, capable, and handsome while doing so, like Zeke, Lloyd, Immortal Tatsu (as a husband at least), and so on. I suppose I’d also argue this is not only aspirational but instructional—if you want guys to become dads, you need to show them how to actually do a good job, and Homer causing meltdowns or Kogoro leering at every pretty lady in the vicinity are not good examples. Characters like Zeke at least give young men some idea of the skills they ought to have as heads of household—good cooking, being on top of their finances, and so on.
Still, that’s only half of the equation. As much as we joke and meme about it, I think this change is only distantly related to Abe’s schemes. It’s not like the Japanese government has THAT much power over what’s portrayed in media, after all. I think it’s more likely these changes reflect the new crop of artists who were born in the late 80s to early 00s and have grown up and entered the industry in the mid 10s and early 20s.
Not to go too far into historical analysis, but it seems to me that IRL the expectations of Japanese men, both externally and internally imposed, have changed a lot since the notorious economic crash of the 1990s. Before then, the ideal was the classic provider: The Japanese man would give nearly everything to his company in return for constant employment, and his wife would run the house and tend to the children. During the 90s, however, the crash meant that many companies could no longer fulfill the ‘steady employment’ part of the bargain. So many Japanese men no longer felt the obligation to become an overworked salaryman, and thus find new sources of meaning and contentment. One of these avenues, I hypothesize, was to take a more involved role in family life. Rather than the old days, where the father would fulfill his familial obligations by working out of the home and providing monetarily, with the mother taking care of the family’s emotional needs, a lot of young men coming of age today (and of course many young women as well) want to take more pleasure in the raising of their children and building up a home themselves.
Those are just my thoughts, though, I figured other fans of this wonderful series would be able to add their own agreements or criticisms
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I'm only now realizing we got to see adult gospel in earlier chapters.
GG though I'd rather not see the demons or girl grow old 👴👴
GG though I'd rather not see the demons or girl grow old 👴👴
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Yes, that's a great point I didn't mention, thank you. It may be a reflection of the personal experiences as well as the aspirations of contemporary authors.
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Aight, this's such an amazing journey. I really want to cry happily (but I can't lol).
Big thanks to Zyugoya (definitely).
Also to all the scans who picked this up: rakuen translation, SliverHelios, Entropia Scans (Iota), xxsaznpride, and doctagon, thank you very much!
(I hope I got them all right)
Big thanks to Zyugoya (definitely).
Also to all the scans who picked this up: rakuen translation, SliverHelios, Entropia Scans (Iota), xxsaznpride, and doctagon, thank you very much!
(I hope I got them all right)
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oh my god, the image of him grown up from way earlier on came to fruition. Gonna miss this series.
