Nageki no Bourei wa Intai Shitai ~Saijaku Hunter ni Yoru Saikyou Party Ikuseijutsu~ - Vol. 7 Ch. 35

[Amariithynar]

A potion with "Eater" in the name sounds very corrosive to me, which would be the last thing I'd want to drink. Just because we can see his thought process, doesn't mean it makes sense.

I mean, his thought process is the equivalent to: "liquid nitrogen" => "liquid" => "it's a drink". You don't have to be a genius to see how WRONG that is.

And for those who can't see it: DO NOT ingest liquid nitrogen. It can quite literally kill you. In fact, there are A LOT of liquids that can do the same, some more painful than others.

The only things he knows about Alchemy is just in how they interact with the rest of the world, so golems and drinkable potions, basically. Anything that is safely consumable is a potion to him (there is no way Sitry has let him know about the existence of illegal potions that aren't safely consumable), so if there WERE a Potion of Liquid Nitrogen in their world and he knew about it, it would be something to drink, unlike in ours (Please, for the love of god, DO NOT INGEST LIQUID NITROGEN IRL. Heed Nolonar's warning on this!).

Now, that said: its name is [マリスイーター] in the raw, which does loosely translate as "Maris Eater"... if you just stop at the point of dropping it into Google and using the first thing that comes up (Sorry Brutalbot, but I'm calling ya out on this). [マリス] is "ma" "ri" "su", and as anyone with any knowledge of Japanese will tell you, "R is interchangable with L". So, what would it be in that case? "Ma" "li" "su". Drop the "u" at the end, since that's often how Japanese particles work for transcribed words from foreign languages or loanwords (which is what Katakana is primarily used for), and you get "Malis", which is phonetically the same, if a different spelling, as "Malice"... which that katakana carries the meaning of (and do a search for "マリス malice" and you'll see plenty of entries; here's a Japanese drama show's twitter account, that has it in the logo and uses it as a hashtag, as well; https://twitter.com/MALICE_UNEXT here's Warner Music Group's JP branch's webpage for the band, Malice; https://wmg.jp/malice/discography/12603/). Considering the role of the beast, to eat any that stand in their way (or in other words, "those that harbour malice against them"), "Malice Eater" is far more likely the meaning intended, and is what he would have thought of it as when reading the name, rather than "Maris", so a potion named "Malice Eater" likely sounds to him like something that would brighten your mood as it strips away the desire to do evil, or similar (maybe he's thinking of giving it to Lize to drink, maybe then she'd have some control over that tongue of hers), rather than an animal.

TL;DR: Translation issue, I'm right to point out his thought pattern as being just fine.

 

[nisashi13]

well then, have been only read the raw lately, i do hope the translation catch up as thing getting more and more insane now that Sitry is home.

 

[tekkenshu7]

Thanks for the new chapter!

Still dunno what he really is. But, just maybe, his own circle of childhood friends really saw him as above all of them, or probably they know their powers are from him or something
Or maybe I am just overthinking and he is just their beloved childhood friend that they can't help but adore.

 

[xSauriaNx]

the worst things you can show to Cry:

Loan ability
Auction

Their Guild's effed again but Sitry's there

Spoiler

and her massively obscene amount of wealth coming from who knows where

.

 

[bearybrown]

Basically Cry have permanent buff of “Sasuga, Ainz-sama!”.

 

[malfoym]

theres not much explaining kinda sucks, cuz it really feels like we are the mc because both mc and us readers don't/can't understand shit. lemao

 

[Nolonar]

Now, that said: its name is [マリスイーター] in the raw, which does loosely translate as "Maris Eater"... if you just stop at the point of dropping it into Google and using the first thing that comes up (Sorry Brutalbot, but I'm calling ya out on this). [マリス] is "ma" "ri" "su", and as anyone with any knowledge of Japanese will tell you, "R is interchangable with L". So, what would it be in that case? "Ma" "li" "su". Drop the "u" at the end, since that's often how Japanese particles work for transcribed words from foreign languages or loanwords (which is what Katakana is primarily used for), and you get "Malis", which is phonetically the same, if a different spelling, as "Malice"... which that katakana carries the meaning of (and do a search for "マリス malice" and you'll see plenty of entries; here's a Japanese drama show's twitter account, that has it in the logo and uses it as a hashtag, as well; https://twitter.com/MALICE_UNEXT here's Warner Music Group's JP branch's webpage for the band, Malice; https://wmg.jp/malice/discography/12603/). Considering the role of the beast, to eat any that stand in their way (or in other words, "those that harbour malice against them"), "Malice Eater" is far more likely the meaning intended, and is what he would have thought of it as when reading the name, rather than "Maris", so a potion named "Malice Eater" likely sounds to him like something that would brighten your mood as it strips away the desire to do evil, or similar (maybe he's thinking of giving it to Lize to drink, maybe then she'd have some control over that tongue of hers), rather than an animal.

Makes sense, thanks. I had a feeling this nonsensical train of thought might be due to a translation mistake.

You could've lead with that instead of accusing me of not reading, you know.

 

[Amariithynar]

Makes sense, thanks. I had a feeling this nonsensical train of thought might be due to a translation mistake.

You could've lead with that instead of accusing me of not reading, you know.

Mate, you wrote, and I quote, "How did he even conclude that "Eater" => "it's a drink"?" when it literally showed his thought process. That reads 100% like you were just skimming and completely missed that panel. You could have been more specific in your wording to convey the thought process you had about "something with eater in the name makes me think corrosive" (as you did in your follow-up post) instead of just leaving it a simple sentence. I can only work with what you gave me, after all.

 

[Nolonar]

Mate, you wrote, and I quote, "How did he even conclude that "Eater" => "it's a drink"?" when it literally showed his thought process. That reads 100% like you were just skimming and completely missed that panel. You could have been more specific in your wording to convey the thought process you had about "something with eater in the name makes me think corrosive" (as you did in your follow-up post) instead of just leaving it a simple sentence. I can only work with what you gave me, after all.

You're right, I could've been more specific. Your rude remark is what I get for always assuming the best in people. That they wouldn't jump to conclusion without even trying to understand what I could've meant. Or in your case, that they wouldn't imagine someone would skip a paltry 11 to 15 words between panels after 35 chapters of a series where bubbles routinely break the 20 words mark instead of just reading Bleach instead. I have no one to blame but myself, considering I, too, am occasionally guilty of jumping to conclusion before understanding others.

I ommitted the "potion" part, because I believed it to be redundant. After all, if I'm questioning the jump from "Eater" to "drink", that means I'm questioning the jump from "Eater" to "liquid" and/or "safe to ingest", would it not? Apparently, it wouldn't. My bad.

Now, I've already made my point about the validity of "potion implies safe to ingest", so let's instead focus on whether "Eater" implies "liquid". I don't know about you, but even in the context of "things that might be relevant to alchemists", that doesn't seem quite right to me. On one hand, golems and potions aren't the only things relevant to alchemists. Chimeras, transmutations (from lead to gold, for example), and the Philosopher's Stone come to mind. Sure, maybe Cry failed to consider those other options, but on the other hand, Cry also asked for a golem, and I don't see why "Malice Eater" couldn't possibly refer to a special type of golem.

While you did well in explaining why he thought it could've been a "mental relief potion" (given that "Maris" is a mistranslation of "malice"), it still doesn't explain why he thought it was a potion in the first place. Do potions in that world typically include the word "eater" in their name? I mean, I haven't seen a single potion with "eater" in the name in this manga so far, but maybe you 've read the LN and know something I don't. Sure, if a chemist in our world said he wanted a "Malice Eater", I might expect it to be some sort of drug or incense. But in a world of magic, there are so many more things it could be. We know it's a chimera, but if it can be a chimera, why not also a golem? If it can be a potion, why not also a stone?

And what use could he possibly have for something that could be either a golem or a "drinkable" potion? Study it, because I'm fairly certain "research" is also something relevant to alchemists.

But again, you are absolutely correct. I could've been more specific. I wasn't. I'm sorry. I hope I was specific enough this time.

 

[Amariithynar]

You're right, I could've been more specific. Your rude remark is what I get for always assuming the best in people. That they wouldn't jump to conclusion without even trying to understand what I could've meant. Or in your case, that they wouldn't imagine someone would skip a paltry 11 to 15 words between panels after 35 chapters of a series where bubbles routinely break the 20 words mark instead of just reading Bleach instead. I have no one to blame but myself, considering I, too, am occasionally guilty of jumping to conclusion before understanding others.

I ommitted the "potion" part, because I believed it to be redundant. After all, if I'm questioning the jump from "Eater" to "drink", that means I'm questioning the jump from "Eater" to "liquid" and/or "safe to ingest", would it not? Apparently, it wouldn't. My bad.

Now, I've already made my point about the validity of "potion implies safe to ingest", so let's instead focus on whether "Eater" implies "liquid". I don't know about you, but even in the context of "things that might be relevant to alchemists", that doesn't seem quite right to me. On one hand, golems and potions aren't the only things relevant to alchemists. Chimeras, transmutations (from lead to gold, for example), and the Philosopher's Stone come to mind. Sure, maybe Cry failed to consider those other options, but on the other hand, Cry also asked for a golem, and I don't see why "Malice Eater" couldn't possibly refer to a special type of golem.

While you did well in explaining why he thought it could've been a "mental relief potion" (given that "Maris" is a mistranslation of "malice"), it still doesn't explain why he thought it was a potion in the first place. Do potions in that world typically include the word "eater" in their name? I mean, I haven't seen a single potion with "eater" in the name in this manga so far, but maybe you 've read the LN and know something I don't. Sure, if a chemist in our world said he wanted a "Malice Eater", I might expect it to be some sort of drug or incense. But in a world of magic, there are so many more things it could be. We know it's a chimera, but if it can be a chimera, why not also a golem? If it can be a potion, why not also a stone?

And what use could he possibly have for something that could be either a golem or a "drinkable" potion? Study it, because I'm fairly certain "research" is also something relevant to alchemists.

But again, you are absolutely correct. I could've been more specific. I wasn't. I'm sorry. I hope I was specific enough this time.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst, and meet somewhere in the middle with actual results.

You have to consider the average person within the community you are posting within when you post something and expect results from those who would see and interact with it, in addition to what was actually within the pages of the chapter you are posting in regards to. Manga and novels in general have a vast majority of people who skim read and don't pay much attention to what they are actually reading. There being an answer within the chapter to exactly the wording of what you wrote comes across as just another average skimmer, because you did not provide any further context, and there is no reason to expect anything different from rebuke from an erstwhile stranger.

Furthermore, questioning "Eater" -> "drink" in the way you phrased it just reads as you questioning the "Maris Eater" being considered drinkable, aka his thought process for how he arrived at the conclusion of drinking it, which, again, is answered by that part that shows his thought process, which reinforces it looking like you just skimmed the chapter. If you had've included the "potion" part, that would have given the impression that you hadn't just skimmed (because you are "showing your work", indicating awareness of the contents of that panel) but were honestly confused as to the process, and would have gotten as reply the part of my later post of how he knows little about alchemy and as such likely associates everything to do with it with golems and potions, the two things he routinely interacted with or was aware of through the efforts of his group's alchemist.

It's all due to the lens of the character who thought and said those things, as has been shown he really doesn't know much or think about much beyond a surface level of things, but happy accidents keep happening that make him look like a super genius, when it's really just his teammates who are super exceptional. It is also that way of thinking just about things on the surface that has him only aware of the things he interacts with or has been directly told about, balanced by his comedic and worrywort natures that has people misunderstand him further because things just end up working out around him while he tries to present a false appearance of competence, and why he can get away with saying stupid shit like "to drink" re: "Malice Eater" and it gets a confused reaction that quickly terminates in a sigh and acceptance.

 

[FrostAether]

"Maris Eater -> type of Alchemist Potion". It even has his thought process in a panel, man. Start reading, stop skimming.

You're asking too much of them

 

[Satsuki-Nada]

Cry is so silly, he just live life however he want

 

[kwendy]

Ah, Sitry telling the guy in the face her regret of not capturing extra human experiment fodder. Comedic.

 

[TNT261]

i love this shit too fucking damn much because the plot armor is what makes it actually interesting lmao ngl but his plot armor is actually the one called "infinite variety" since if you splice the same universe dimension to infinity, the moment you try to attack cry, you can get fuck in infinite variety of ways lolololol

No exactly. This is a manga where it feels like the world/plot is self aware but the story and MC aren't and it somehow just works. Like it plays into the tropes and you'd think it'd be terrible because the MC is just an oblivious dense mess, but it just works.

Thank you for the chapter!

I believe he just means "his party killed dragons while he was there"
He didn't personally kill the dragon or anything. He was just... There. While it happened.

Though 100% if you asked his party they'd say they were all fodder while the Mc did all the work 😂

 

[Superpeanut]

Thank you for the chapter!

I believe he just means "his party killed dragons while he was there"
He didn't personally kill the dragon or anything. He was just... There. While it happened.

Wait I just saw the AQ profile picture. That’s amazing.

 

[Firemorfox]

How did he even conclude that "Eater" => "it's a drink"?

Sitry, an alchemist, wants it.

An alchemist is related to potions. So Maris Eater must be a potion ingredient.

 

[Bourbon]

Aren't Strange Grief basically the villains of this story?
All the trouble and hardships in this first arc have been caused by them. Sitry is unironically, unabashedly evil; using human experimentation and torture to create Killkill. Liz isn't as bad, despite still being a psychopathic bloodthirsty sadist, and Cry is genuinely stupid and his stupidity and indifference ultimately results in enabling and unknowingly protecting the former two.
Basically every conflict that's been featured in this series thus far is the fault of Strange Grief. The only exception may be the birth of the shrine that Sven witnessed, but even that seems to have been tied to them. You could say, "Well, nobody's died so far," but Killkill is literally a mindbroken tortured soul that would be better off dead.