New features: 2 factor authentication and more genres added

[Ultima4128]

For thosewho are using OPERA MINI and suddenly can't login. just turn DATA SAVING off.

 

[aej]

Great work! I don't think I've ever seen any project that was this active in adding awesome features/implementing requests.

 

[ununseti]

Nice to see more tags ?

Also, glad to see the genres getting some usage guidance. That should help clear up ambiguities!

Gender Bender is the best genre though (imo). Sad to see it go.

 

[Hexxy]

I'm not a fan of manga involving trans issues just not getting a theme /genre at all. I took a quick look and now they're labeled mostly under cross-dressing, which implies some bad things if it's actually supposed to just have characters who are trans. Rare, maybe, but they're becoming more frequent, and just not having a tag for trans/intersex stuff just makes it difficult to search for them without relying on outside sources.

Might I suggest, if not just a simple 'trans' label, to consolidate it under a tag line 'queer' or 'lgbt'? There are definitely more than just 4 or so manga involving trans stuff here (it still isn't a lot but it's a lot more than that, especially when considering how often trans issues are mixed in with either gender swap or cross-dressing). Even Wandering Son is now under cross-dressing, which just isn't right and doesn't sit well with me at all since both main characters aren't cross-dressing but are, in fact, transgender.

I'm otherwise a fan of this change, but leaving out trans-specific stuff to now be a gamble whether it'll be considered genderswap, cross-dressing, or nothing is not a great idea.

 

[Teasday]

@CoolOtamegane That's not actually what I meant. The feature isn't actually complex or resource-heavy at all, I just used certain JavaScript features that old browsers may not have implemented. A modern updated browser like Firefox 64 should work perfectly fine. Are you absolutely sure it's the tags specifically doing that? Could you test again to make sure?

 

[Plykiya]

@Hexxy LGBT would encompass all of Shoujo Ai, Shounen Ai, Yuri, Yaoi, the 50 or so trans/intersex manga, and then there'd be a lot of searching to be done for bisexual characters. It wouldn't necessarily make it any more effective to search for trans material, all of those combined would have over 5000 manga in results on the site.

Hourou Musuko has both themes of crossdressing and trans.

 

[Hexxy]

What about Otokonoko Doushi Renai Chuu, which doesn't have themes of cross-dressing but is an autobiographical about two trans women? Currently labeled under cross-dressing. I know it's not particularly common but it's helpful nonetheless, especially for when works mix the concepts.

An LGBT label probably would be too broad but v in sure there's some way to include this particular genre /theme without implicitly labeling stuff about trans women as cross-dressing (implying they're cross-dressing men), for example.

 

[CoolOtamegane]

@Teasday Yes, I guess related to Caches and Cookies I emptied before,
Right now, it's normal when i tried again. No problem so far

 

[NoSana]

thank you for updates!
btw is there any chance that we can search based on completed and not like in Batoto?
sometimes I like to search for completed manga only.

 

[Plykiya]

@Hexxy As someone who does it/involved with that kind of community, the difference between being a crossdresser and not being a crossdresser is pretty much about how the person thinks of themselves. If they feel like they're a girl and that it's right to wear girl's clothing, they wouldn't be a crossdresser. Someone who presents as a girl can still consider what they're doing to be crossdressing if they think of themselves as a boy most of the time rather than a girl.

In Otokonoko Doushi Renai Chuu, the author thinks of themselves as a guy that crossdresses as a girl.

 

[CoolOtamegane]

Do not Confused :
GenderSwap = Gender Bender = Transgender = BodySwap (denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.)
Crossdressing = TRAP = ReverseTRAP (wear clothing typical of the opposite sex.)
This is which Plykiya means

 

[Akabane]

While using the search function I noticed theme's and I was sad I didn't see 'Gyaru' anywhere, they need love too!

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

@CoolOtamegane I feel like you're ignoring the type of genderswap which includes the characters transforming into the opposite sex against their will for the sake of comedy or the plot. Example.

I think what @Hexxy meant is that there are mangas where the characters want to be trans and those where they were initially forced to be trans and, while the prior is still rare, it's inevitably going to grow more and more as a genre/theme so there should just be two different tags to define them already in order to please the two demographics which both sides harbor. Take note that crossdressing is a whole different story, as what @Plykiya already mentioned. If my intrepetation matches what @Hexxy meant to state earlier then @Plykiya's and your explanations failed to clearly define the issue here.

I can relate as someone who wants to read a good crossdressing or genderswap manga from time to time but want to stay away from trans mangas. (Oh gosh this is making me sound transphobic. Don't take this out of context; I'm just not into the realism.) Plus, trans mangas like these (I assume since I haven't read this; judging from the title and description) initially feature crossdressing

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and ends up at genderswap (logically predicting)

so I feel like a "transgender" tag would solve all these problems. This way, people can exclude/include it all they want. I mean, you're just splitting up the genderbender tag into three things instead lf two, that's not really problematic, right?

But yeah, I do agree that a LGBT tag is waaay to broad and won't help anyone so please stay away from that.

 

[Kaizo]

Do not Confused :
GenderSwap = Gender Bender = Transgender = BodySwap (denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.)
Crossdressing = TRAP = ReverseTRAP (wear clothing typical of the opposite sex.)

I feel inclined that there's a great difference between
-- those who are living a different gender-identity (aka "different identity in original body" ), which would include SexChange Surgery as extension
-- as opposed to those that have their actual physical gender be changed (aka "original identity in different body"), which naturally groups all these "magical" occasions.

So for me it's more like "Transgender => GenderSwap <= Gender Bender" but "Gender Bender != Transgender"

 

[ununseti]

In my view, Gender Bender encompasses all types of gender shenanigans and gender exploration.

Gender Bender:

[ul] [*] Crossdressing
[ul]
[*] trap
[*] reverse trap
[*] mistaken gender
[*] disguises
[/ul]
[*] Body Swap
[*] Gender Swap
[ul]
[*] gender transformation
[*] reincarnated as opposite gender
[/ul]
[*] Transgender
[ul]
[*] gender identity
[*] gender identity disorder
[/ul]
[*] Intersex
[/ul]
MangaUpdates has these categories:
- Cross-dressing (1669 uses)
- Trap (608 uses)
- Body Swap/s (248 uses)
- Gender Transformation (224 uses)
- Transgender Character/s (200 uses)
- Mistaken Gender (87 uses)
- Reverse Trap (86 uses)
- Female Disguised as Male (83 uses)
- Intersex (66 uses)
- Male Disguised as Female (54 uses)
- Gender Identity (47 uses)
- Body Sharing (47 uses)
- Transgender Protagonist (44 uses)
- Reincarnated as the opposite gender (32 uses)
- Gender Identity Disorder (31 uses)
- Gender Swapped Character/s (11 uses)

AniList has these tags:
- Gender Bending
- Crossdressing
- Body Swapping

Kitsu only has this category:
- Gender Bender

Dynasty Reader, which has a lot of manga and doujinshi with these kinds of themes, has these tags:
- Cross-dressing
- Transgender
- Gender Bender
- Body Swap

There are several distinct concepts that I usually look for in a manga with gender bending:
- Manga with crossdressing/disguise/hidden identity shenanigans (e.g. Mint na Bokura, Coda, Hatsukoi Zombie, Shounen Oujo, Nononono, etc.)
- Manga with crossdressing/expression/LIKING IT/reluctantly doing it exploration (e.g. Prunus Girl, Reversible!, Hatsu Kokuhaku, Past Future, Otoko no Ko Days, Nameless Asterism, etc.)
- Manga with body swapping/sharing shenanigans (e.g. Shishunki Bitter Change, Gyakuten Honey, Swap Swap, Shut Hell, Not Lives, Junai Sensation, etc.)
- Manga with Rule 63 genderswapping/gender transformation shenanigans (e.g. Ame Nochi Hare, Kanojo ni Naru Hi, Hana wa Nisemono,Mao Marimo, Kyon no Tea of Sagittarius, etc.)
- Manga with more nuanced LGBT themes relating to gender identity and so on (e.g. Wandering Son, Shimanami Tasogare, Bokura no Hentai, The Bride Was a Boy, that one chapter from Nickelodeon, Yuureitou, etc.)
- All of the above (cough)

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Why not leave in Gender Bender as an umbrella term that encompasses all the gender stuffs? MAL and MU both have "Gender Bender" as a genre, AniList has "Gending Bending" as a tag, and Kitsu has "Gender Bender" as a theme.

 

[MDesu]

I know it's been said that the checkbox layout for search was ditched because of the additional tags, but I think the checkbox layout still works just fine.

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But even if more tags are added in the future, it's a simple matter to have the various sections be collapse-able:

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I've already implemented this into a Firefox extension, so I can say from actual experience that I find it much easier to use the checkboxes than the drop-down menu.

 

[googolplexbyte]

Can we get Mangaupdate's Categories system on Mangadex? The categories are scored which solves the issue of whether they actually fit or not.

 

[Kanami-chan]

still no <manhwa> and <manhua> tag? I want to filter those so bad

 

[Kaizo]

I think the only solution regarding the tags will be that Mobile UI has to go a different path than the PC Version.

I'd approve of how @MSDesu did it, looks great. On that matter, given that Descriptions are gonna be a thing, are you adding short one-liner tool-tips as well?

EDIT: There really should be some way to allow a common member to affect the tags that are added to a given manga. Like a proposal system which, after reaching a certain threshold, will be able to be reviewed by higher ones to be eventually added (and likewise penality / disabling for abuse of feature (like, mass proposing (non-ambigiously) wrong tags)). I mean, now that a system is established that can potentially hold a lot more "information", it might be worth it to rely on the power of the masses
--> Just some two cents of mine, not really a request of any sorts.

 

[Holo]

Gyaru added.