Ohayou Toka Oyasumi Toka - Vol. 3 Ch. 14 - A Person Who Understands

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Seeing how this author deals with Hotaka dealing with her mother will determine if I drop this or not, since I absolutely hate how they handled sad excuse of a human being their father. He doesn't deserve a fifth chance. Am much more interested in the story of Wahei's mother though so hopeful for that.
 
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While I do agree that Wahei's father was treated a bit lackadaisically, I do like how the acknowledged that Wahei while estranged relationship with his father is mostly mild and shouldn't be compared to how she sees her family.
 
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How she likes the father that just up and left on them but hates the mom. I'd hate both of them if I were her. I still don't understand how Wahei forgives his dad so easily when he drove his mom away also.Maybe if there is a time skip they'll be able to understand the gravity of what all their parents did to them.
 
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Irresponsible Dad..
It's Amazing how Wahei survive and become good person after he's been through (credit to his aunt too)

and it's more Amazing is how Hotaka Didn't hate her Irresponsible Dad ?
 
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She hates her mother because she's the one who cast them aside... but likes the father who did absolutely nothing else for them but throw them towards his other child and praying for the best? This doesn't fly.
 
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thank god wahei is there, i shudder to think what would have happened if he didn't have a change of heart
 
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For me, this will be the case where I'll hate both of my parents because abandoning me is one thing, but abandoning my two little sisters who's still a damn little kids? Even if I lead a bitter life, I'll never forgive them... Even more so that father who does the same things more than once holy lord. Yet, those 2 lil kids might not remember anything clearly when they grow up and wants to be with the parents, meanwhile the bigger kid who remembered everything is left feeling all the shits alone hahahaha

This is like telling "even if you do shit to your kid, worry not, they will understand and forgive you when they mature". No holy syiiiiit this is not okaaaay. Not every abandoned kids can get their Wahei, and not every abandoned kids would grow up to be Wahei...

Man honestly many of this syit hits home too close... I'm not even abandoned but the shadow of some family members in that father and that mother is too much I can't even get any fuwafuwa feelings from reading this because the kids reaction is so detached from reality. I know this is only a manga but holy moly
 
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welp, the mother must be so terrible if the father that abandoned them can be liked
 
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I hope that when the time comes to reveal the mother, Hotaka doesn't Forgives. I want this for her mainly as a way to contrast between the father that they have come to love (or tolerate to a degree where he is seen as a person but not as a parent, in Wahei's case) and show how Wahei would respond to that, a situation where he sees that sometimes family problems can't just be solved with love and acceptance.

It would be a nice way to contradict the way his views of family have developed, and also we could see Hotaka firmly get closure on that aspect of feeling like she could be kicked out she obviously still has as she fully embraces Wahei as his family.
 
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@iron_monk It's more like Wahei gave up on his father, stopped expecting anything from him. Up until now he hated the old man because he felt like the father had been a total failure of a parent who ruined his childhood to a degree. Now he admitted to himself that's the kind of person the father is and never could have been anything else. Almost like his mother had gone and got artificial insemination and there wasn't a father in the first place (other than in the pure biological sense). Wahei's in a position to do that because he's a working adult with a stable job and all in all a pretty decent life. Contrary to the popular belief among internet tough guys, keyboard warriors, and keyboard anarchists, living in a constant state of hatred and anger doesn't make a splendid life. It's much easier if you can stop hating and relax. Chances are you won't lose your hair as early either with the reduced stress level.

Hotaka is still young, a student, and dependent on others. No matter how much she now appreciates being able to live under Wahei's care, it would still be more difficult for her to forgive someone that abandoned her and the twins. The wound is still fresh and actually matters. She's not stupid, so she should realise living with Wahei is not normal in the eyes of the society, so there's always the lingering fear it could stop at any time. Kids living with their parents (biological or otherwise) is the normal situation to be expected, so it's natural for Hotaka to constantly feel the mother is a traitor.
 
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Whether Hotaka forgives her mother or not, I wouldn't judge it. She could forgive her but never forget and shut her off of her life, or be like how Wahei and their dad did. In the end, it all depends whether she thinks that mother could still be fitted into her life. But the latter seems to be someone's wishful thinking as she casted her two little sisters as well. At the very least, I imagine she'd treat her coldly, and do just up until what the law and her morals needs her to do as a daughter.

If I remember correctly, the father did abandon them, but that was with the knowledge they had their mother and then soon, when the mother left them, he told them about their brother. Though that is still a shitty move, and god forbids me to pull out the keys to our truck. He at least had the concern to have them stay in a warm house, and even said he'll try to make time to meet them. Still a shitty damn father. (Do your job properly. ╬)

I think forgiveness can also mean to set the problem out of a one's way so, they could walk forward. They won't forget it but, they won't let that person weigh them down anymore, in heart and thoughts. Completely cutting off the road that connects them with that person. That's how I perceive forgiveness in such a situation at least.
 

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