Omega Tribe - Vol. 2 Ch. 14 - A hymn to the primitive men

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[ghostkun]

That rat experiment has remained in my mind for many years, because you can't help but see some parallels with modern human society. People have pointed out nuances. Females abandoning their young might be a result of that artificial environment having no real hiding spaces like in the wild. Thus, they were constantly fending off males, who tended to kill the young, until sheer exhaustion and weariness led to them abandoning their offspring.

The mental flexibility of humans compared to rats and mice is another factor.


....eh, well anyway, who knows.

 

[danbellucci]

damn the author was cooking in this chapter.

 

[procrastinatorthedeadliner]

I'm sorry but I read too much of omegaverse I can't help but think the omega are sub, and this should be alpha tribe 😭

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[77BLc9JwJGpLVARkamJx]

Omega hitler time?

 

[K_Takuya]

I love how this manga is completely serious in its absurdity
Anyway, yeah I don't like chinese and korean comics for multiple reasons myself, but racism is not one of them. A lot of time they're either boring or I just don't vibe with them 🤷‍♂️

 

[Thelegendarytaeyamada]

That rat experiment has remained in my mind for many years, because you can't help but see some parallels with modern human society. People have pointed out nuances. Females abandoning their young might be a result of that artificial environment having no real hiding spaces like in the wild. Thus, they were constantly fending off males, who tended to kill the young, until sheer exhaustion and weariness led to them abandoning their offspring.

The mental flexibility of humans compared to rats and mice is another factor.


....eh, well anyway, who knows.

That experiment was pretty scary...thinking you can clearly already notice signs of that "behavioural sink" in today's human society. Maybe it's too early to tell if a complete collapse could happen to human society too, however...

 

[T-sama]

That rat experiment has remained in my mind for many years, because you can't help but see some parallels with modern human society. People have pointed out nuances. Females abandoning their young might be a result of that artificial environment having no real hiding spaces like in the wild. Thus, they were constantly fending off males, who tended to kill the young, until sheer exhaustion and weariness led to them abandoning their offspring.

The mental flexibility of humans compared to rats and mice is another factor.


....eh, well anyway, who knows.

That experiment was pretty scary...thinking you can clearly already notice signs of that "behavioural sink" in today's human society. Maybe it's too early to tell if a complete collapse could happen to human society too, however...

Humans are not rats though, rats are literally nothing but animals going by pure instinct, any hormomal imbalance or social disruption bad enough will completely screw up with them, humans not so much, unless someone completely loses their marbles people will survive and multiply.

Honestly, rampant inequality, capitalism and the people in power never making things better are infinitely more reason to society problems than having too many people, it's like people say, we could have fixed world hunger long ago, not let even one single person starving, it doesn't happens thanks to capitalism + self interest of politicians, religious leaders and rich.

 

[Thelegendarytaeyamada]

Humans are not rats though, rats are literally nothing but animals going by pure instinct, any hormomal imbalance or social disruption bad enough will completely screw up with them, humans not so much, unless someone completely loses their marbles people will survive and multiply.

Honestly, rampant inequality, capitalism and the people in power never making things better are infinitely more reason to society problems than having too many people, it's like people say, we could have fixed world hunger long ago, not let even one single person starving, it doesn't happens thanks to capitalism + self interest of politicians, religious leaders and rich.

Lol, you think that humans aren't driven by instincts and hormonal (im)balances? Lolololololololol...Humans are just slighty more intelligent rats. Slightly.

 

[T-sama]

Lol, you think that humans aren't driven by instincts and hormonal (im)balances? Lolololololololol...Humans are just slighty more intelligent rats. Slightly.

Did I ever say instincts and hormones don't affect humans? Point is that we are more than just animals, and we're also way more than just slightly intelligent than animals, much less rats.

The issue isn't intelligence, because even the average person can be fairly intelligent, the issue is that people don't  care about using their brains for the most part, unfortunately we're taught by society to not think too deep, just buy your happiness and don't shake the boat.

Just look at corporations, a single brand release multiple smartphones every single fucking year, and thanks to advertisement and consumerism a lot of people waste their money buying the slightly better new model, why? Because supposedly not only are you failing in life if you don't buy the latest shit, you also can't be happy if you don't own as much shit as possible.

And then there's politics and religion, which basically put people against each other, because of course it's easier and more convenient to blame x group from all the problems in your life and society.

Really, issue isn't how much intelligence people have, but that most don't want to think to begin with, if people were less stubborn to think and accept their beliefs might be wrong, things would be a lot different.

 

[Thelegendarytaeyamada]

Did I ever say instincts and hormones don't affect humans? Point is that we are more than just animals, and we're also way more than just slightly intelligent than animals, much less rats.

The issue isn't intelligence, because even the average person can be fairly intelligent, the issue is that people don't  care about using their brains for the most part, unfortunately we're taught by society to not think too deep, just buy your happiness and don't shake the boat.

Just look at corporations, a single brand release multiple smartphones every single fucking year, and thanks to advertisement and consumerism a lot of people waste their money buying the slightly better new model, why? Because supposedly not only are you failing in life if you don't buy the latest shit, you also can't be happy if you don't own as much shit as possible.

And then there's politics and religion, which basically put people against each other, because of course it's easier and more convenient to blame x group from all the problems in your life and society.

Really, issue isn't how much intelligence people have, but that most don't want to think to begin with, if people were less stubborn to think and accept their beliefs might be wrong, things would be a lot different.

Dude, you are funny. Funny but mostly wrong.

 

[AveriaVerde]

That rat experiment has remained in my mind for many years, because you can't help but see some parallels with modern human society. People have pointed out nuances. Females abandoning their young might be a result of that artificial environment having no real hiding spaces like in the wild. Thus, they were constantly fending off males, who tended to kill the young, until sheer exhaustion and weariness led to them abandoning their offspring.

The mental flexibility of humans compared to rats and mice is another factor.


....eh, well anyway, who knows.

What do you mean "who knows"? It's absolutely certain that rats are not humans and will never be so, and it's obvious that any being in a relatively(to himself) closed space will go crazy. The only thing that Universe 25 proved is that rats went insane in a closed environment, and that Calhoun was a total moron.

 

[AveriaVerde]

Lol, you think that humans aren't driven by instincts and hormonal (im)balances? Lolololololololol...Humans are just slighty more intelligent rats. Slightly.

Every word you used is incorrect. While instincts and hormones exist, we are not driven by them, and no we are much more than slightly intelligent rats. The fact that we are talking right now on the internet is a self-evident proof of both facts.

 

[Maelbek]

What do you mean "who knows"? It's absolutely certain that rats are not humans and will never be so, and it's obvious that any being in a relatively(to himself) closed space will go crazy. The only thing that Universe 25 proved is that rats went insane in a closed environment, and that Calhoun was a total moron.

Tbh I agree. Biggest issue with that rat experiment was that there was zero things in that place to stimulate rats in any mind of body manner. No tools, no places to play or to interact, etc just unlimited food, water and cold walls. They were literally bored to death. Any sane group of humans would go total insane after some period of time.

There were other experiments with rats, two groups, both were given infinite amount of drug substances to consume if they wished to, I think it was morphine, one group was in normal cage while other group had 100 or 200 bigger place to live, with tunnels, wheels, balls and pretty much everything a rat could wish to. Outcome? First was nearly non stop drugged while other, with better housing place, used it rarely if at all.

But I don't think that place being too crowded is of too much issue, for sure it can produce lots of stress and conflict among people. One fascinating thing that happened recently was for example Kowloon city, which had terrific population per km2 and though it was not really the best of the places to live as it was often dubbed city of darkness but nevertheless people not only lived but thrived there.

I would say rats are simpler but they can give us good insights into certain things, we human are after all animals too which share a lot with animals around us, even if we are more developed in brain part, doesn't mean that some primitive and inner sides evaporated.
Some speculate that our social lives evolve faster than our brains can handle it, after all we were mostly hunter scavengers for 40 or 50 thousands years and only in recent 12k we started to settle into more agricultural societies but even that was for pretty long time. Industrial revolution brought to us such fast paced change that we can barely handle it, maybe it's not that systems are bad but it's just that most of us, humans can't handle it while if they were born 50 years ago, most could live pretty normal lives.

I think author is doing some jumps here and there in stuff but overall I think he is right, many great civilisations fell, I think 'our' civilisation will fall too, either ww3, new disease 2.0 or super fall of all stocks or maybe it will be slow sink over century and slow failure of all systems like in Asimov foundation series, imperium slowly rotting all over the places to point where it just falls under its own weight.

sorry for my English