Orcsen Oukokushi ~Yaban na Orc no Kuni wa, Ikanishite Heiwa na Elf no Kuni wo Yakiharau ni Itatta ka~ - Vol. 6 Ch. 17.2 - The Wailing Jaws P.2

[Minipels]

It’s not just that the Dark Elves were massacred; it’s the way they did it, which is to prevent the Dark Elves from being reborn.
In this world of magic, where elves are born from trees and there are documented reincarnations, this belief in reincarnation may be rooted in how the world actually works.
It wasn’t enough to murder the Dark Elves, but they also desecrated their souls.

Which makes me wonder if there is a time window to perform their last rites/burial. That aside I hope they get a proper burial even if they do not reincarnate.

Also, sort of off topic but makes me ponder if part of the death penalty in Elflind includes a prohibition of giving any criminal subjected to it a proper burial as to avoid their reincarnation.

 

[vanCham]

Regarding the credit page, the great thing about not having English as your main language is that the translation must really suck for you to notice. Here, I ain't noticing anything.
On another note, not sure that's how a soldier that was about to assault a captured civilian should be treated. Not the first time the author is taking the gloves with the heroes (see the incendiary rounds attack a few chapters ago), but I hope it will be treated at some point, like a "good guy" committing a warcrime and getting an appropriate punishment for it.

I like that the author isn't giving it a "good guy, obviously everyone will get prosecuted" spin.
Because thats usually not how it happens in reality. Civilian casualties are an accepted and acceptable fact in military operations. The light elves are a bunch of assholes, but its imho delusional to think that Orcsen wouldn't have invaded if they weren't racist fuckers. All that did was give the Orcish Reich a bunch of convenient allies.
Keep in mind what the king himself said about the reason of the war.
He invaded because he saw them as weak and unfit to defend their own nation. Not because they are "evil". This whole war is, in the end, a war of conquest. It has some convenient moral ground casus belli, but those are a convenience, not a a prerequisite or necessity. Orcsen would most likely have still invaded if the light elves where all treehugging hippies with no interracial quarrels among elf types.

 

[roninvoid]

Regarding the credit page, the great thing about not having English as your main language is that the translation must really suck for you to notice. Here, I ain't noticing anything.
On another note, not sure that's how a soldier that was about to assault a captured civilian should be treated. Not the first time the author is taking the gloves with the heroes (see the incendiary rounds attack a few chapters ago), but I hope it will be treated at some point, like a "good guy" committing a warcrime and getting an appropriate punishment for it.

It's not a warcrime if it's happening for the first time.

 

[SunSun]

So the white elves straight up used the Nazi execute, bury, repeat strategy. I hope they get obliterated.

Rwanda Genocide

Ba'athist attacks on the Kurds

Bosnian Genocide

The Khmer Rouge's reign of terror

Armenian Genocide.

ISIS genociding Yazidis and Coptic Christian minorities.

The Darfur Genocide in Sudan is still ongoing.

Humanity's inhumanity to man didn't start with the Nazis and it didn't end with them

 

[shwiftyshfifty]

All too real. Free Palestine.

https://genocide.live/

https://databasesforpalestine.org/

 

[GreenDude1]

Rwanda Genocide

Ba'athist attacks on the Kurds

Bosnian Genocide

The Khmer Rouge's reign of terror

Armenian Genocide.

ISIS genociding Yazidis and Coptic Christian minorities.

The Darfur Genocide in Sudan is still ongoing.

Humanity's inhumanity to man didn't start with the Nazis and it didn't end with them

I mean the methodical way of gathering a bunch of people in one place digging a deep hole executing them dumping them in it throwing in a layer of dirt and repeating until the hole is full. That's literally what the Nazis did before they decided that it was too inefficient and started making the concentration camps.

 

[SunSun]

Regarding the credit page, the great thing about not having English as your main language is that the translation must really suck for you to notice. Here, I ain't noticing anything.
On another note, not sure that's how a soldier that was about to assault a captured civilian should be treated. Not the first time the author is taking the gloves with the heroes (see the incendiary rounds attack a few chapters ago), but I hope it will be treated at some point, like a "good guy" committing a warcrime and getting an appropriate punishment for it.

"War crime"? What's that? It's only a crime if there's a law against it. And a law is only meaningful if it can be enforced.

 

[SunSun]

I mean the methodical way of gathering a bunch of people in one place digging a deep hole executing them dumping them in it throwing in a layer of dirt and repeating until the hole is full. That's literally what the Nazis did before they decided that it was too inefficient and started making the concentration camps.

Layering a mass grave isn't a Nazi invention either. How many times throughout history, do you think that a mass grave been filled this way?

It is an oversimplification of history to think that such a basic method of mass burial during a genocide was because the Nazis thought of it.

 

[GreenDude1]

Layering a mass grave isn't a Nazi invention either. How many times throughout history, do you think that a mass grave been filled this way?

It is an oversimplification of history to think that such a basic method of mass burial during a genocide was because the Nazis thought of it.

I'm not claiming that the Nazis invented the Mass burial. I am simply referencing something that most people would know from history class. I am simply referencing what the Nazis did because that's the most likely thing that someone would know about when it comes to mass burials.

 

[le3]

Thanks for the chapter and the trigger warning. I didn't expect this chapter upset me so much, Dineru break down, the mass grave, holy shit man... The horror....

 

[Twisted_Fellow]

Although very disrespectful, the burial isn't the crime here... What is the crime is them going roughly two steps further by not retrieving those amulets, which both white and dark elves' customs dictate are sacred to their reincarnation cycle, to be returned to the silver tree's roots where they were born. Signifying that they wish to damn them to an eternity in the void such as purgatory if not worse depending on what exactly that would mean to them as a people.

Mass burials aren't a crime, but they are a fairly common thing in wars due to lack of manpower. That said, usually what leads to a mass burial like that tends to be a result of a crime due to other reasons.

Although upsetting, it was depicted in a way that was well done for what they were trying to convey, I appreciated that they didn't go into visually gory detail. This was bad enough and leaves a lot to the imagination.

 

[DaoFox]

oh brother... the gatekeeper in the credits could have tried just a LITTLE bit harder. all I ask for is to not call a character or group or location by 40 different names every other page or panel. yknow, maintain a functioning memory longer than a blink.

when this story finally ends it's going to be one hell of a trip to go back and read it from the beginning... 🫩

 

[Bruno]

Its insane how this is something that has happend on the history and probably is still happening somewere in the world right now, we must strive for peace at every single time

There are at least 3 genocides going on right now, against Palestinians, against people on Sudan, and against the Rohingya people.

Regarding specifically mass graves, it's way more widespread. Syria has them due to both ISIS and Assad.

Something that personally takes away my sleep and has been mostly ignored since the first reports (2005), is this.

 

[Xical]

The dam is broken now, what they will they do now?

 

[Boomburst]

Although very disrespectful, the burial isn't the crime here... What is the crime is them going roughly two steps further by not retrieving those amulets,

More messed up, since all of them seem to wear them. That's not neglect to retrieve, that's active effort to lose them.

 

[kazaddum]

Very grim on the mass genocide...
But THAT is what a WAR will bring, RIP and TEARS until it is done.
And give that village chief to the BIG DOG, after all a GOOD DOG deserve a TREAT.

Genocide is already the largest possbile extent. Therefore "mass genocide" makes no sense.

 

[Bruno]

Before going past the first page: "Ooh, a trigger warning? This is gonna be good."
After finishing the chapter: "...that's it?"

That wasn't exactly worth a trigger warning, I think. Sure, it was pretty messed up that the deceased dark elves didn't get a proper burial, but there wasn't anything triggering at all. Maybe I'm just too thick skinned to notice whatever the trigger was? Either way, it's good to see them get some justice, even if it's just a "this will happen much later" sort of deal.

I went through ten robberies. Some people get traumatized after one. However, my father's death made me conclude "safety" is an illusion. Everybody has different sensibilities to different things, and that's alright.

 

[kazaddum]

This is likely a reference to the 1940 Katyn massacre: After the Soviet invasion of the Eastern half of Poland (while the Nazis took the Western half) over 20,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia were rounded up, executed and buried in mass graves by the NKVD.
It was actually discovered by the Nazi after they broke their Non-Aggression pact with the Soviets, and used it to discredit them after the Allied Powers reluctantly accepted them. The Soviets blamed the Nazis, and continued to deny being responsible until 1990, by which point they and later Russia go "Everyone involved is dead, so no further investigation or cases."
I've already noticed the White Elves uniforms look like the uniforms of the Russia Empire/Soviet Union, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they take.

Careful bud. Historical evidence points towards the germans as perpetuators. German ammo was used and the dead had documents with them from after the takeover by germany. Furthermore, randomly stumbling over anything at Katyn is pretty much impossible, if you imagine the ass end of nowhere that is Katyn. Something to take into further consideration also the admission in 1990, that was at the height of perestroika, when the leadership did everything to score browny points with the west.

In short: The version you told is likely bs. Doesn't have to, but it doesn't pass the smell test.

edit: Libs mad. Better believe the myth that the Nazis just so happened to find a convient mass grave in the nation they invaded and commited countless atrocities in, I guess.

 

[kazaddum]

Rwanda Genocide

Ba'athist attacks on the Kurds

Bosnian Genocide

The Khmer Rouge's reign of terror

Armenian Genocide.

ISIS genociding Yazidis and Coptic Christian minorities.

The Darfur Genocide in Sudan is still ongoing.

Humanity's inhumanity to man didn't start with the Nazis and it didn't end with them

Gaza genocide. With complete backing of nearly all western states.

 

[NellAnder]

And that, m'y Friend, is the answer to last chapter dumb*ss saying he hate the Dark Elves because "Orcs looks like n*zis" and "They're basically invading"
That. Is war. War that came after a génocide that went further by desacrating they most sacred tradition, one which they had in common. They knew what they were doing. And they took pleasure in it. No mercy for them.
Elfind must fall. Elfind WILL fall.