Ore no Kurasu ni Wakagaetta Moto Yome ga Iru - Vol. 1 Ch. 4

[Andasen]

An understandable backstory of how their marriage fallen out, not because of them not loving each other but because of a black company tearing their time together

 

[theshet]

I wasn't sure but I think I will enjoy this, the love is very clearly there but they need to work through it

 

[adfjs]

solution to almost every romance manga out there

Not just manga. It's true for almost all relationship IRL too, and not just romantic ones. But so many people can't fathom the idea that the other person's not being malicious, so things spiral out of control. Not to deny genuine assholes/bitches out there, of course, but a lot of the times it's simply not the case.

 

[hispirus]

My divorced dad told me once that him using his work stress as an excuse to lash out at my mom was his biggest mistake in his life.

He said that it was fully his own fault that he ruined his marriage, and urged me to never repeat his mistakes.

"It was pretty simple actually. By not marrying at all, you automatically don't commit any of the subsequent mistakes either. It's like an Infinite Honor cheat."

I'm just making a stupid joke.

 

[hispirus]

It seems you have some issues to work out. We've yet to see a single foreigner in this series, but I do find it funny how you've jumped on a non-existent racism bandwagon to blame all the problems on foreigners vs the people having the problems.

Don't feed the trolls. There's probably some copypasta floating about that this diatribe was based on…

 

[Mangamoz]

"It was pretty simple actually. By not marrying at all, you automatically don't commit any of the subsequent mistakes either. It's like an Infinite Honor cheat."

I'm just making a stupid joke.

It's ok I won at life.

Never had a romantic partner, never been married.

 

[ysil69]

Here's what he should have done: grow a pair of balls and quit his job.
Why he should have done it: so it doesn't ruin his life.
How he should have done it: ghost his employers, or even hire one of those japanese companies that will quit on your behalf.

I mean, really? Sucking up to "culture and society" and letting a company exploit them is the "right" thing to do? Whoever thinks that is fucked-up in the head.

Your turn, dear sir who apparently has a deep understanding of Japanese society and culture. Please tell me what he should have done, as a respectable member of society, to save his marriage and mental health while being constantly exploited by a black company, in a culturally acceptable way.

By the way, "black companies" aren't a Japan-exclusive thing. They can be found them pretty much anywhere where the law is lax and worker rights are weak. The "culture and society (and family)" is exactly how they prey on the people with weak minds, and learning that companies don't care about their workers, and therefore you shouldn't care about the company, is a massive part of professional growth. MC screwed up hard that part, and did the worst thing possible: took it out on his wife. That's beyond lame and makes MC a huge loser in my eyes.

You have no clue how companies work in Japan.

"Just quit" and then every company sees that as a black mark on his resume and won't hire him. Because that's how Japan works. How's their marriage gonna work out while he's unemployed huh?

You're blaming the entire thing on the guy who is being exploited by his company as the (as far as we know) sole provider of his house. Yes he made a mistake and ended up in a black company, but as your marriage partner for life, she does NOTHING to help him. She bitches at him constantly, plays emotional immature ignore games, and doesn't help to provide at all.

You can't just "quit" if your family house has nothing to fall back on while you're searching for another job, with the handicap of a social stigma following you. Bills have to be paid.

But yeah ALL his fault...

Edit: lmfao Holy shit you're a loser. Stalked like 15 of my posts just to dumb emoji. The other poster was right.

 

[Uk2897]

Honestly it seems like she was the perfect wife but he ruined it by neglecting her. Hopefully he doesn't this time around and finds a better job this time

 

[Poinn]

Ah, a Japanese's worst dream, working in a black company, when Gaijins who doesn't even Jouzu in Nihongo takes away all the good jobs, leaving you only the option to work in black company to feed your family, which causes you to work all day and because of it, your wife isn't able to spend time with you, in the end, she leaves you for the gaijin man, you keep working and your wife keeps twerking. Truly the worst fate for a Japanese.

Gaijins are the cause of fall of Japanese society and economy, BAN GAIJINS!!!


She's letting you in BECAUSE you're her ex-husband, dude. This is why you'll get NTR'd by a Gaijin, smh.

What the fuck is a gaijin

 

[handtied]

Now kouhei, it's time to make a new path. You came from 10 years in the future. Just build a startup, use whatever ideas that would be popular in 10 years, have softbank invest 10 billion dollars, and then step down as billionaire.

 

[handtied]

"It was pretty simple actually. By not marrying at all, you automatically don't commit any of the subsequent mistakes either. It's like an Infinite Honor cheat."

I'm just making a stupid joke.

It's not that simple actually. Everyoine not marrying = falling birthrate = economic problem = even more work hours

 

[Robinisback]

What the fuck is a gaijin

A foreigner is called "Gaijin" in Japanese.

 

[KitoroKien]

After this chapter, it's definitely the dude's fault for ruining their marriage.
"Sorry, honey, but the black company is more important than you."

Now I'm feeling bad for Yuzuka, who is falling again for this no-good bastard.

Bro forgot whos incharge of making money and feeding the fanily

 

[KitoroKien]

Is it just me or high school version of both of them look the same as their adult selves?

 

[KitoroKien]

Now kouhei, it's time to make a new path. You came from 10 years in the future. Just build a startup, use whatever ideas that would be popular in 10 years, have softbank invest 10 billion dollars, and then step down as billionaire.

Or do something much simpler like invest in bitcoins?

 

[bobbybiracial]

If you don't lock in and get back to your wife bruh...

 

[Mithgol]

Without reading ahead and spoiling anything, without reading the source material and spoiling anything, I can make a guess that their senpai needs to say that she has finally understood that too many of their “fantasies about the plot” have been actual spoilers about several anime and manga series (too many for a mere coincidence).

Such understanding does not immediately scream “time travel” though; their senpai might instead suspect that the couple can see the future (through some superpowers) or that they are (in secret) genius masters of plot development and planning.

In the latter case their senpai might ask them to become scriptwriters for her own stories and they might do exactly that while knowing most of her stories beforehand (because it's heavily implied that in the future she's one of their favourite authors) and thus making her stories self-sustained within their closed time loop.

Even if that's not what their senpai actually says in the next chapter, I think, eventually she has to make that guess. Otherwise I'd be disappointed.

 

[residentFATBOY]

Hear me out, I have this crazy idea: what if he quit his toxic job?
Is it really worth it ruining their marriage and mental health for what is likely a mediocre salary? As his past version shows, it's not like he was someone in a terrible situation who would end up homeless or starve if he didn't have a job.

You have a severe lack of understanding for traditional Japanese work culture, at least historically. Lifetime employment was a huge thing throughout Japan as recent as the turn of the century. You would get scouted as early as high school and work for that same company all your life. There's a reason hikikomori say they feel as though they "missed their chance in life," and that's because the barrier of entry into workplace communities is much higher after the fact. I wouldn't go so far as to say quitting would be social and financial suicide, but you'd have a hard time with your very specialized skillset to make it into a position of similar standing at a different company, especially given how often promotion only happens from within. Your work is a core part of your life in Japan, and often plays a key role in dictating your social circle, so to quit or get fired would be ostracizing as well. Quitting could very well have put him and his wife in a terrible situation.

The real issue isn't wholly his job, but their lack of communication. An apology for lashing out could have gone a long way; a "thank you" for always having meals ready, laying down together, skinship, a lot of things really, but it seems neither were willing to let go of their egos or compromise. To take your brush and paint this as a "him problem" is excessively reductive.

 

[SunSun]

Wow
I was about to say something similar but you put it the most elequantly. I will just add this:
It looks to me (from my reading of manga which actually might not be accurate portrayal of japanese society) that japanese work culture places great emphasis on tireless effort, perseverance and selflessness. Yeah, the black companies are exploiting that aspect, but even in relatively normal company you are still expected to not leave the work until you finish your job/task. So, quitting your job is most likely perceived as weakness and stigma to be carried your whole life.

Yeah work culture in the East is that bad.

It's the main reason why aren't stating families; work like a slave so that others raise your child, only for them to grow up and get a job at your company so you could bond as parent and child.

It's gotten worse in China due to economic downturn and in Japan it'll only get worse with the implosion of the yen.

Korea has other issues tipping things off, like how insanely strict the age hierarchy is.

 

[tilsgee]

is ths manga gettingg axed?. no updates for a month. i'm worried