Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Vol. 7 Ch. 47 - The Choice is in Your Hands

[Salfaro]

The flashback got a decent tie-in to why Cody's actually Fighting Harold here, but still feels like a drag with the pace of the releases.

 

[Oeconomist]

this background story is necessary to explain how hard the mc to beat this person.

Back-stories are often okay; sometimes they are great. But dropping them into the middle of a fight or inserting them into a death scene should provoke the editor to throw hot coffee at the writer.

(Then, as he lies on the floor, scalded, he can think back to the events in his life that made him into an asshole.)

 

[AAA1]

Back-stories are often okay; sometimes they are great. But dropping them into the middle of a fight or inserting them into a death scene should provoke the editor to throw hot coffee at the writer.

(Then, as he lies on the floor, scalded, he can think back to the events in his life that made him into an asshole.)

hmm.. one piece, naruto, kimetsu no yaiba, bleach already did this. many times! I don't think the back-stories placement is the problem

 

[IJustReadEverything]

Bro, just get out of his way. He's strong enough.

 

[Haezer]

Yep it's still hard to like the MC. I know he's kinda forced to be an asshole but still...

 

[Oeconomist]

one piece, naruto, kimetsu no yaiba, bleach already did this.

The commonality of such wretched practice is no defense. (Sturgeon's Revelation: 90% of any genre is crud.) The practice cannot even be defended as novel.

I don't think the back-stories placement is the problem

The back-stories placement abuses the audience, especially when the battle is just whooming.

This chapter is getting waled-on by people who've stuck with the story for years because this chapter wasn't worth reading. Character development is a very good thing, in the right place.

 

[Oeconomist]

he's kinda forced to be an asshole

More precisely, by some unexplained mechanism, he's forced to communicate like an asshole, but in no other way is his freedom of action unnaturally constrained. Some inconsistency is entailed in that information is communicated by his actions; as when characters discover his saving lives and sponsoring vulnerable people.

 

[jhs_reika]

The overall story is basically a villainess reincarnation isekai

WOW

 

[lxmon_fax]

YOOOO AN UPDATE THANK YOU TRANSLATORS

 

[Kampfarsch]

Im glad they completely rushed through those dudes backstory cause I could not care less

 

[TokenOtaku]

Im glad they completely rushed through those dudes backstory cause I could not care less

RUSHED? Taking one and a half chapters isn't "rushed"! This backstory could've been told in half of the last chapter or even fewer pages. This chapter could've been deleted from the manga doubt anyone would've noticed any pacing issues. I enjoy the manga. It's alright. But I hate having backstory in the middle of the "exciting" parts.

 

[semon_demon]

absolutely no idea whats going on but it sure does look cool

 

[Meridis]

More precisely, by some unexplained mechanism, he's forced to communicate like an asshole, but in no other way is his freedom of action unnaturally constrained. Some inconsistency is entailed in that information is communicated by his actions; as when characters discover his saving lives and sponsoring vulnerable people.

give it a second...or a year, however long it takes to finish this part.

Spoiler

he's not being imposed on by a system but both him and the original Harold live inside that body and are fighting for control. He can decide what to do or say but Harold still decides how he says it. More so, if he wants to excel, he's going to have to learn to give up a bit more control.

It's kinda like the Amber Sword, where the mc thinks he's just popped into the body of an npc only to later realize that all his talk about his pride as a player was an excuse to convince himself that he was the one in control when he risks his life to save the npc's crush.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

The commonality of such wretched practice is no defense. (Sturgeon's Revelation: 90% of any genre is crud.) The practice cannot even be defended as novel.

The back-stories placement abuses the audience, especially when the battle is just whooming.

This chapter is getting waled-on by people who've stuck with the story for years because this chapter wasn't worth reading. Character development is a very good thing, in the right place.

The spot the flashback is in is fine and is indeed needed so we have some sort of understanding why he is trying to stop Vincent. It is by no means a wretched thing for an artist to do so.

Btw 98% of statistics randomly stated are pull out of ones arse.

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[chairlight]

I kinda forget what is this about since it's been a while since last updated, I should reread past few chapters

Mc is reincarnated into a villain type character who is the most hated and dies.

MCs body literally is Tsun with anti-dere incarnate, a filthy mouth that can only insult people.

So MC will attempt to say something like "Wow, you look beautiful and smell amazing". And his body will "translate" and speak the words "You are the most vile creature I have ever seen. Your face looks like roadkill a dog took a crap on, and you smell even worse." He tries to smile polititely, but his body sneers and looks with disgust.

(The thought bubbles accompany the speech MC makes showing what he meant to say and what his body outputs)

Which when the words that come out of his mouth are the most vile, offensive, and arrogant things possible, it makes the MC goal to survive and stop the incoming apocalypse extremely hard.



This manga is a pretty good adaptation. But the web/light novel really captures the real turmoil the main character is dealing with. Having to fight his body's output, to try to communicate what he really means.

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-death-flags-show-no-sign-of-ending/


Current arc is basically

MC going rogue and trying to go to the forest and impersonate the enemy kingdom. As there is a plan to backstabbing the native race there and use it as a means start a war campaign against them.(to preserve the alliance with forest people)

Guy fighting MC is his squad leader, and knows MC is about to do something bad and is trying to stop him. Mc can't communicate what he is really doing due to his handicap and thus they are fighting. MC plan also would stop his squad and squad leader from being killed in the forest conspiracy.


It's been a while since I read either version of the series so some details I don't remember clearly, but that should be the gist.

 

[Elandriel]

Mc is reincarnated into a villain type character who is the most hated and dies.

MCs body literally is Tsun with anti-dere incarnate, a filthy mouth that can only insult people.

So MC will attempt to say something like "Wow, you look beautiful and smell amazing". And his body will "translate" and speak the words "You are the most vile creature I have ever seen. Your face looks like roadkill a dog took a crap on, and you smell even worse." He tries to smile polititely, but his body sneers and looks with disgust.

(The thought bubbles accompany the speech MC makes showing what he meant to say and what his body outputs)

Which when the words that come out of his mouth are the most vile, offensive, and arrogant things possible, it makes the MC goal to survive and stop the incoming apocalypse extremely hard.



This manga is a pretty good adaptation. But the web/light novel really captures the real turmoil the main character is dealing with. Having to fight his body's output, to try to communicate what he really means.

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-death-flags-show-no-sign-of-ending/


Current arc is basically MC going rougue and trying to go to the forest and impersonate the enemy kingdom. As there is a plan to backstabbing the native race there and use it as a means start a war campaign against them.(this would preserve the alliance with forest people)

Guy fighting MC is his squad leader, and knows MC is about to do something bad and is trying to stop him. Mc can't communicate what he is really doing due to his handicap and thus they are fighting. MC plan also would stop his squad and squad leader from being killed in the forest conspiracy.

It's been a while since I read either version of the series so some details I don't remember clearly, but that should be the gist.

Last two paragraphs a little spoilery, n'est?

 

[Oeconomist]

The spot the flashback is in is fine

It would have been fine earlier. It's a cheap device here.

and is indeed needed so we have some sort of understanding why he is trying to stop Vincent.

The author should have delivered it earlier; and, failing that, the editor should have told the author no, that no flashback would be used, and that the margin would have a brief apology for the stupidity of the author.

is by no means a wretched thing for an artist to do so.

Again, the reason that people who have been following this series for years are waling on this chapter is that it wasn't worth reading. It's a bunch of whooming, which stops going forward as the author says “Oh, I didn't tell you …” and gives us a flashback.

Btw 98% of statistics randomly stated are pull out of ones arse.

One has to be quite dull-witted to misapprehend Sturgeon's Revelation.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[AAA1]

The commonality of such wretched practice is no defense. (Sturgeon's Revelation: 90% of any genre is crud.) The practice cannot even be defended as novel.

The back-stories placement abuses the audience, especially when the battle is just whooming.

This chapter is getting waled-on by people who've stuck with the story for years because this chapter wasn't worth reading. Character development is a very good thing, in the right place.

that's subjective topic. it's just right to look up at the predecessor's success to imitate. Well, forgive me if i don't have an interest to look up what is Sturgeon's Revelation. I am one of the people that would look a term like 'deus ex machina' is silly. Let's just have the discussion be a bit more simple as i don't deem that knowledge is important in general discussion.

as i stated before, back stories placement is not entirely the problem. this manga have more problem than that. It doesn't have enough built up before they introduced this back story. "Who is this Cody guy?", "Why should i care about that other new character that introduced in Cody's backstory?", "It seem that character is more important than Cody guy but who the heck is Cody?". These problem is stacking up enough to make the reader's frustrated caused by information bombing. The problem enhanced by cody's design and characters is not catchy and haven't been in situation that the MC need him (for plot point's sake) before. The solution would be to delay the back story later (not placing it in the middle of fight) like you said.

This one is not important but i just have the urge to share that dandadan's way introducing backstory for the kaijuu girl when she is in death threat is awesome.