Ori no Naka - Ch. 23 - Habits

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Lol a eugenics apologist in your manga comments section? More likely than you'd think I guess!

I have a degree for and work in the mental health field and my husband does literal neuroscience research regarding criminality. I promise you don't understand the way genes influence behavior, or you wouldn't be able to say something that reductive with that much confidence.

You don't even need any specialized education to not be so unbelievably cynical. It's not hard to find an example of extremely kind people who grew up in terrible environments, like it isn't hard to find insufferable people born to wonderful parents. Genes have a million variables other than who your parents were.
typical obfuscation and fallacious reasoning.
You know that you can't get away with outright saying that any of the specific claims I made are wrong, because I'm simply reporting well replicated findings from behavioural genetics research. So instead you resort to posturing and casting vague aspersions and responding to claims that I never made.

"it isn't hard to find extremely kind people who grew up in terrible environments"
This doesn't contradict anything I said . I never said that every single person with bad parents is also a bad person, I said that people with bad parents are more likely to inherit the genes which cause bad behaviour and so are more likely to be bad people than people with good parents.

This is just an obvious fact. a much higher rate of children of criminals become criminals themselves than the children of non-criminals . And this is true even when you compare adoptees. If you were adopted at birth and one of more of your parents are criminals then you're much more likely to grow up to be a criminal than someone who was adopted at birth but whom neither of the biological parents are criminals.
e.g. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4009388/ " The risk for all CB was significantly elevated in the adopted-away offspring of biological parents of which at least one had CB [odds ratio (OR) 1.5, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.4–1.6] "
and replicated many other times see meta-study https://www.researchgate.net/public..._A_meta-analysis_of_twin_and_adoption_studies "A meta-analysis of 51 twin and adoption studies was conducted to estimate the magnitude of genetic and environmental influences on antisocial behavior. The best fitting model included moderate proportions of variance due to additive genetic influences (.32), nonadditive genetic influences (.09), shared environmental influences (.16), and nonshared environmental influences (.43)."
The only plausible explanation for why adoptees with criminal biological parents are much more likely to be criminals than adoptees with non-criminal biological parents even when they're all being raised by non-criminal adopted parents of on-average upper socio-economic status is that they inherited the genes that caused that behaviour.

If you and your husband work in fields relating to human nature then you should either learn the basics of behavioural genetics or if you're already aware then stop denying science because you don't like the conclusions.
e.g. https://www.aporiamagazine.com/cp/137699066
most of "muh environmental variables" e.g. growing up low income or in a high crime neighbourhood show insignificant effect when examining within families (and thus largely controlling for genes)

Now apologise to me , and admit you were wrong and never make me own you like this again aaaaahhhhhh
edit: also ,calling someone a "eugenics apologist" just because they're reporting the obvious, well-replicated scientific fact that genes significantly influence behaviour including antisocial behaviour is nothign but science-denying anti-intellectual thuggery. It's neo-lysenkoism, debunked blank-slatist mythology for leftoids.
 
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Good point. He never had friends growing up so he doesn't know much for men's health or what a good set or hair is

plus other than a specific type, you don't really see shaved head men in JP animanga too often, even the coworkers had crew cuts at most (or least?) idk if there were any balding ones that weren't much older than him
 
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Lol a eugenics apologist in your manga comments section? More likely than you'd think I guess!

I have a degree for and work in the mental health field and my husband does literal neuroscience research regarding criminality. I promise you don't understand the way genes influence behavior, or you wouldn't be able to say something that reductive with that much confidence.

You don't even need any specialized education to not be so unbelievably cynical. It's not hard to find an example of extremely kind people who grew up in terrible environments, like it isn't hard to find insufferable people born to wonderful parents. Genes have a million variables other than who your parents were.
My favorite kind of eugenics apologism is the kind where they say such controversial things like "genetics can affect behavior." Everyone knows the maoa gene is fake news. Just like how satan planted dinosaur fossils to lead mankind astray from creationism, so too did he plant fake evidence like the maoa gene to lead men away from the simple truth that humans are NOT evolved and evolution is fake.

"it isn't hard to find extremely kind people who grew up in terrible environments"
This doesn't contradict anything I said . I never said that every single person with bad parents is also a bad person, I said that people with bad parents are more likely to inherit the genes which cause bad behaviour and so are more likely to be bad people than people with good parents.
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Why bother with all those words when you can just reply with this and call someone an idiot? It's a fallacy so common people make memes about it.
 
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Damn, I just re-read the chapter and I suspect they won't report Moyupu to the police in the next chapter. It would be cool if they somehow would fuck over this Moyupu fucker together.
 
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My prediction based on this author's past works:

She will convince the MC to murder her husband, and then she will pin the blame on him, he will go to jail, if he is even alive by then.

Then she will get away with it and forget about him, repeating the cycle of manipulation with another dude.

The end.
The author's past work didn't end in murder but climaxed (ironically) at a love hotel. Here we're seeing the opposite, the hotel is more or less a refuge here rather than a ritual altar like it was in the other story. Theres no cycle here either, from the narrative POV she more or less encountered Gomi in an incredibly shojo manga way as explained in an earlier chapter. If anything she'd murder the husband herself, but the story isn't quite leaning towards this. The author absolutely loves foreshadowing, and the most we see to indicate a sort of secondary conflict with a coworker trying to brew some blackmail. If it were the case as you said, she'd be on her 3rd marriage, have no sick family, and we'd have hints of her shopping around for someone physically strong/malleable. Instead its a dumbass who fell into series of bad situations and made stupider decisions along the way. And besides we haven't had any "oh gee these work incidents happen alot" or husband's illegal habit yet.

But the main villain of the story is literally society, the author cuts to several shots of talking heads and internet posts amping up insecurities. An interesting note is that these are largely driving Gomi's internal antagonizing forces, yet Yumezora's are all presented as notably more material. The dynamic they have is quite strange yet also grounded, it centers around the escapism of Yumezora versus Gomi's late bloom graduation. In this chapter we and Gomi see what it is that she's running away from. And Gomi's no fighter either, so they're probably going to at least try to make for the countryside and ditch the stupid job anyway.

And I've really been noticing this trend of borderline "return to monke" type plots as of late. Makes sense I suppose with how hopeless things seem now.
 

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