Ori no Naka - Ch. 30 - Exile

[EchoGirl]

Thanks...dang i'm surprised he agreed to go home with them

not that he has savings or so but i'd skip town and ghost, wonder how screwed yumezora would be if she had picked some secretly rich heir or someone with yakuza ties instead

So people ignored the fact that he beats his wife, guess what Gomi did was that shocking, as for me, i care about every fact, both should be punished for their respective acts

wouldn't be surprised if like "oh legally it's not our business/separate life and personal" the same way some teachers look the other way of bullying or abuse from parents versus like 'she asked for our help, she's living in the break room for now' or so b/c there's no other female workers that could let her stay

Just secretly call the police and let the husband get violent. Guy will just be arrested and locked up then Gomi and Kuroko can just live off the husband's fortune.

i feel like that wouldn't work, after all no one 'saved' her since childhood and assuming it's not the first time she's done this outside of /this/ workplace i imagine they'd just get ignored versus hard proof as well as her also maybe staying to help take care of her mom as well

They literally let a stranger walk into the office, talk shit about a co worker and even set a data projector in the room LOL

IDK exactly what they do for work but i doubt there'd be a security detail or so

 

[soda_bunny]

First of all, Gomi my child I am so proud!! Not of most of your actions but for admitting what he did.
Unfortunately he still seems too scared to call the cops, which fair enough. The husband can easily intimidate Kuroko into vouching for him and only Gomi has clear evidence against him, leaving Kuroko alone again.

These two are truly in the dregs, I have no idea how but I am hoping against all odds they are able to climb out of this!

 

[Eighty-six]

The misogyny comes when commenters like you continue to hold her primarily resposible

It is absolutely appropriate to blame her for why Moyupu is about to make origomi.

In fact, she's solely responsible for that, given she not only always knew the risks, but had already experienced a circumstance much like this with her last cheating partner.

 

[SamtheEevee]

Someone is going to die in the next chapters. You don't push a man with nothing else to lose into a corner like that.

 

[dsfargeg]

What's wrong with you? Gomi was the first character to have his transgressive habits explained by his issues, Yumezora was just the next one, and happened to have her reasons explored much more extensively.
The misogyny comes when commenters like you continue to hold her primarily resposible and ignore the past several chapters in favor of infantalizing all the male characters.

this is called telling on yourself and it's really funny

 

[Doomroar]

I am a martial artist. Knives always beat unarmed. I can go into graphic detail into both personal injuries I have received from knives and martial artist I knew that was killed by an amateur with a knife. Or you can watch this:

The best case scenario for martial artist vs untrained amateur with a knife is they both wind up in the hospital.

Now, this is a manga, but it's been a consistently realistic one.

Consistently realistic manga with the basic premise of a guy that jerks off on his office bathroom to discarded menstrual pads?

That's you base reality anchor!?

I can agree with everything else you said, but that last line almost deleted all your credibility in one move

 

[dsfargeg]

Consistently realistic manga with the basic premise of a guy that jerks off on his office bathroom to discarded menstrual pads?

That's you base reality anchor!?

I can agree with everything else you said, but that last line almost deleted all your credibility in one move

Are you trying to argue perverts don't exist? There's a pretty well-documented smalltime lolcow who used to hang around outside infant daycare and steal used diapers for sexual reasons.

Regrettable as it is, "pervert does weird things" is about the most realistic story you could possibly tell.

 

[Doomroar]

Are you trying to argue perverts don't exist? There's a pretty well-documented smalltime lolcow who used to hang around outside infant daycare and steal used diapers for sexual reasons.

Regrettable as it is, "pervert does weird things" is about the most realistic story you could possibly tell.

Perverts on the level of Gomi are not well adjusted enough to keep a steady job for 8 years, added to that the whole tragedy mountain that is Yumezora's whole life, and how she then went on to track Gomi, i wouldn't call this manga and their depiction of perverts as realistic

 

[Junomano]

Consistently realistic manga with the basic premise of a guy that jerks off on his office bathroom to discarded menstrual pads?

That's you base reality anchor!?

I can agree with everything else you said, but that last line almost deleted all your credibility in one move

The world can get real dark sometimes, you just don't see it, some hide really well
in short it's not impossible for things depicted in this manga to happen irl, if the author though about it, someone irl can too and do it even if it's rarer

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Consistently realistic manga with the basic premise of a guy that jerks off on his office bathroom to discarded menstrual pads?

That's you base reality anchor!?

I can agree with everything else you said, but that last line almost deleted all your credibility in one move

I wouldn't say that this premise is all that unrealistic, hell there was that whole affair in IIRC Bioware studio, where women noticed that breast-milk started disappearing from fridge. Is used pad all that different from breast-milk?

Rather, it's the whole coincidence where he happens to be coworker of super fucked up woman who is just into guys like him and was the single hot lady in the office, which made her his target in the first place, that's pretty far-fetched. And I think the part where she's been beaten and abused since childhood, yet looks still as hot babe, feels unrealistic, though I don't know enough victims of long-time abuse to be sure of that.

 

[dsfargeg]

Perverts on the level of Gomi are not well adjusted enough to keep a steady job for 8 years, added to that the whole tragedy mountain that is Yumezora's whole life, and how she then went on to track Gomi, i wouldn't call this manga and their depiction of perverts as realistic

Only maladjusted perverts get caught. The smart ones never get found out.

 

[soda_bunny]

It is absolutely appropriate to blame her for why Moyupu is about to make origomi.

In fact, she's solely responsible for that, given she not only always knew the risks, but had already experienced a circumstance much like this with her last cheating partner.

So Moyupu is just a totally helpless baby who can't control his own anger? Oh my bad, I didn't realize it, I guess I thought he was her husband not her child.

 

[soda_bunny]

this is called telling on yourself and it's really funny

What? I genuinely don't get it.

 

[Eighty-six]

So Moyupu is just a totally helpless baby who can't control his own anger?

Kuroko knows Moyupu is an abusive rapist, whose force she can neither resist nor defend herself against.

She chooses to continue to be with this man, despite having been given outs.

She knows this man is capable of bringing grave harm to any sex friend she has, and she knows he is looking for an excuse to do so.

She has chosen to not indicate this to her cheating partners.

She has already seen the fruits of the aforementioned.

She continues to make excuses for this man, who abuses and rapes her, and who visits physical and spiritual devastation upon her sex friends, despite being aware that her sex friends being brutalized for her sake is a bad thing.

Whether or not Moyupu is incapable of not being an abusive rapist is well beside the point. The point is that within what Kuroko knows and is able to manipulate, she chooses to set men up to get their souls expedited to Tartarus, without them even knowing they're running that risk either until it's too late or they're otherwise emotionally in too deep.

I would not be talking about this if it wasn't already known by Kuroko that Moyupu is an abusive rapist, and if Kuroko didn't elect to continue to be married to him. Moyupu should cease to be an abusive rapist, but then, not being able to control that, Kuroko should leave this man who abuses and rapes her. Regardless, until either of those things happen, Kuroko is fully responsible for leading men to their demise without even a forewarning, because she knows it's likely to happen.

It is Moyupu's fault for being an abusive rapist, and it's Kuroko's fault for leading men into circumstances where they stand to get executed by her abusive rapist husband that she continues to be with and that she continues to defend despite her own criticisms.

 

[dsfargeg]

What? I genuinely don't get it.

Yes, I know. That's part of what makes it so funny. Even if I explained it to you, you would lack the theory of mind needed to understand it. The joke is a mirror and you can't recognize your own reflection.

I guess I could explain it to you for the benefit of others reading: I made a completely absurd joke that's almost impossible to take seriously, and you got offended by it and took it seriously because you're defending your moral identity instead of discussing characters. You are now doing exactly what the joke described while performatively accusing others of doing it to avoid the uncomfortable experience of self-awareness and reflection.

You need others to do the same bad thing you're doing so you can think you're "better" because you're doing it for The Right Reasons. To this end, that you're accusing other people of doing things they're not doing at all. Not to convince them, not to win an argument, but to soothe yourself.

Your complete lack of self-awareness is the punchline. Even now that I've explained it to you, you're going to keep doing it. You're going to keep delivering this punchline over and over. It's similar to Yumezora's oxytocin addiction, but embarrassing/funny instead of tragic.

 

[Satoo]

That was crazy, but I think I understand what this is all about.

Gomi = Cool guy with loneliness problems
Yumezora = Beach
Moyupu = Hardworking guy that only wants a family
Yoshihara = The MVP trying to fix everything

Why do so many men have to suffer because of one woman?

 

[soda_bunny]

Kuroko knows Moyupu is an abusive rapist, whose force she can neither resist nor defend herself against.

She chooses to continue to be with this man, despite having been given outs.

She knows this man is capable of bringing grave harm to any sex friend she has, and she knows he is looking for an excuse to do so.

She has chosen to not indicate this to her cheating partners.

She has already seen the fruits of the aforementioned.

She continues to make excuses for this man, who abuses and rapes her, and who visits physical and spiritual devastation upon her sex friends, despite being aware that her sex friends being brutalized for her sake is a bad thing.

Whether or not Moyupu is incapable of not being an abusive rapist is well beside the point. The point is that within what Kuroko knows and is able to manipulate, she chooses to set men up to get their souls expedited to Tartarus, without them even knowing they're running that risk either until it's too late or they're otherwise emotionally in too deep.

I would not be talking about this if it wasn't already known by Kuroko that Moyupu is an abusive rapist, and if Kuroko didn't elect to continue to be married to him. Moyupu should cease to be an abusive rapist, but then, not being able to control that, Kuroko should leave this man who abuses and rapes her. Regardless, until either of those things happen, Kuroko is fully responsible for leading men to their demise without even a forewarning, because she knows it's likely to happen.

It is Moyupu's fault for being an abusive rapist, and it's Kuroko's fault for leading men into circumstances where they stand to get executed by her abusive rapist husband that she continues to be with and that she continues to defend despite her own criticisms.

That's a lot of words to say Moyupu is a baby.

 

[soda_bunny]

Yes, I know. That's part of what makes it so funny. Even if I explained it to you, you would lack the theory of mind needed to understand it. The joke is a mirror and you can't recognize your own reflection.

I guess I could explain it to you for the benefit of others reading: I made a completely absurd joke that's almost impossible to take seriously, and you got offended by it and took it seriously because you're defending your moral identity instead of discussing characters. You are now doing exactly what the joke described while performatively accusing others of doing it to avoid the uncomfortable experience of self-awareness and reflection.

You need others to do the same bad thing you're doing so you can think you're "better" because you're doing it for The Right Reasons. To this end, that you're accusing other people of doing things they're not doing at all. Not to convince them, not to win an argument, but to soothe yourself.

Your complete lack of self-awareness is the punchline. Even now that I've explained it to you, you're going to keep doing it. You're going to keep delivering this punchline over and over. It's similar to Yumezora's oxytocin addiction, but embarrassing/funny instead of tragic.

That's a lot of words to admit you have no idea what you're saying lol

 

[Eighty-six]

That's a lot of words to say Moyupu is a baby.

No, he's an abusive rapist who punches like he's fighting villains. Kuroko knows this and she not only continues to be with him but continues to cheat on him, endangering the lives of her sex friends.

But sure, Moyupu's a baby-- what the hell is Kuroko doing marrying a baby?

 

[inversefate]

You know what I think? I think he knew about it for a while and just wanted an excuse to violently beat the shit out of his wife and Gomi, then tighten the leash.