Ori no Naka - Ch. 30 - Exile

[man]

epic shonen fight coming next chapter

 

[Hootanic]

The fact that no one acknowledges how he still tapped in despite what he did with her pads. That's mighty impressive. Also, I'm sure the only crime committed here is the domestic abuse. Sleeping with a married woman isn't illegal in Japan and I doubt a case like this would ever make it to court considering how the pad incident led to multiple consensual encounters. The husband would have some leverage in divorce court but he's too controlling to let her go. Idk I just love this kinda trash.

It does seem like that would be a point of defense, that she knew and still was like, "oh, it was Gomi, hehe - this is great, glad it was him" and they engaged in a relationship should count for something... I mean, yeah he should still totally reap the consequences of his actions.

Now, what comes next will be the test of whether his feelings are true or not. Does he love this girl enough to either defend her and potentially die for her, or will he decide that the cost is not worth it?

 

[sanshoku]

Honestly I'd let the husband beat the shit out of Yumezora.

She showed him the fucking tapes.

 

[Nosebleed]

is there a distinction in Japan over legality like there is in the USA, where there's a "criminal court" and a "civil court"?

So while there might not be an actual law declaring infidelity as illegal as it pertains to the legal code of Japan, it's treated as a "civil issue" that involves damages sought & paid between private parties, rather than to the state/government via fines or jail time?

Yes, there is also that distinction in Japan and it's exactly what applies here.
Matters such as this are handled by a civil trial (民事裁判) rather than a criminal trial.
Infidelity falls into the scope of article 709 of the Japanese civil code, which deals with tort (wrongdoing) liability, quoted below:

第七百九条故意又は過失によって他人の権利又は法律上保護される利益を侵害した者は、これによって生じた損害を賠償する責任を負う。
Article 709 A person that has intentionally or negligently infringed the rights or legally protected interests of another person is liable to compensate for damage resulting in consequence

These cases are handled either by a family court (家庭裁判所) or district court (地方裁判所), usually depending on the amount you're seeking (higher amounts are dealt by district court).

 

[UdenEmpati]

Yes, there is also that distinction in Japan and it's exactly what applies here.
Matters such as this are handled by a civil trial (民事裁判) rather than a criminal trial.
Infidelity falls into the scope of article 709 of the Japanese civil code, which deals with tort (wrongdoing) liability, quoted below:


These cases are handled either by a family court (家庭裁判所) or district court (地方裁判所), usually depending on the amount you're seeking (higher amounts are dealt by district court).

between this and Mahoro's affair manga I've learned so much from you, thank you.

 

[Eighty-six]

Funny how everyone last chapter was acting like she told her husband to shame him like this and this chapter it shows nah she just told him and then forgot

I don't know how this chapter shows that, and I don't know how she would have forgot that she showed him that.

 

[xyzzy]

I don't know how this chapter shows that, and I don't know how she would have forgot that she showed him that.

She walked in the office and was surprised that her husband was there alongside the video of Gomi jorking it to her pads.

 

[vannn]

I don’t care how much of a piece of shit he is, I hope Gomi gets at least one good shot to the wife beater’s throat.

 

[Eighty-six]

She walked in the office and was surprised that her husband was there alongside the video of Gomi jorking it to her pads.

Of course she'd be surprised-- Moyupu had to be given evidence of his wife's infidelity before he realized that Kuroko's cheating partner was the same man in the videos she showed him. But she couldn't have expected that Moyupu would be granted the evidence of infidelity, and Moyupu would have no reason to make this confrontation without said infidelity evidence.

That doesn't mean she told him and then forgot that she told him.

We've been told Kuroko's cheated before, and if Gomi gets folded into origami, we know how it's going to end.

 

[sebaasdf]

They literally let a stranger walk into the office, talk shit about a co worker and even set a data projector in the room LOL

 

[zim-bo]

Gomi probably could've lessened their disgust by a teeny bit if he had said that the pad-jacking was part of their affair

 

[JVick]

They literally let a stranger walk into the office, talk shit about a co worker and even set a data projector in the room LOL

Who the fuck barge into an office with a fucking projector to display to everyone in the room the equivalent of an amateur fetish porn video, what a mad lad.

 

[Nightazakus]

This manga is filled with terrible people and I love it alot.

You and me both

 

[Eighty-six]

Who the fuck barge into an office with a fucking projector to display to everyone in the room the equivalent of an amateur fetish porn video, what a mad lad.

he knows nobody's gonna check him

 

[pink_rabbit]

This chapter made me respect and see how much Gomi has changed. He was such a wallflower + all bark and no bite yet now he is actually standing up for Kuroko. If he is serious then both should run away

 

[henman]

The manga is at its peak. I wonder, will it be able to get even higher than this? Even more disgusting?
Personally I like how honest Gomi is. Before the chairman, before the husband. He's a fine man. Now he only needs to...survive somehow.
By the way, what are the chances the husband has a recorder in the pocket and all of Gomi's honesty about an affair will bite him in the ass in the court?

Spoiler

I'd love to see his blond coworker save him somehow later despite being utterly off-put today

Also, I think it's the right time to show husband's story. How they met, how she made him into a home abuser in order to satisfy her perverted desires...there're still quite a few things to expext in the future. Let's go then, to even higher peaks!

It's also valid for people to shit on her before we knew her story. Or even after.

No. This is never valid.

She's not mentally stable, but her actions still caused harm to another guy, and now to Gomi (who also did horrible things).

And this is not an argument for that

 

[Hootanic]

The manga is at its peak. I wonder, will it be able to get even higher than this? Even more disgusting?
Personally I like how honest Gomi is. Before the chairman, before the husband. He's a fine man. Now he only needs to...survive somehow.

Gomi didn't grovel or make excuses - he accepted his own role in this ordeal with dignity. He's a real mensch in that regard. Now, the question will be if this will be an example of the "Rule of Acquisition" 109: "Dignity and an empty sack is worth the empty sack"

 

[danbellucci]

Thanks for the chapter!
Oh yeah I'll just silently get into your car together with Yumezora like a spineless fucking cuck.
COME ON!
WTF is wrong with you? Why is he obeying the orders and getting into the car with the guy who just ruined his life?
"But moyupu is threatening to sue him"
So what? Once you give in to a blackmailer's demands you're just incentivising him to make more demands. Gomi already knows Moyupu hates him so he should just assume that Moyupu will attempt to sue him anyway no matter how many of Moyupu's demands Gomi obeys.

There are only two sane things for Gomi to do
1. walk out the building saying nothing more to Yumezora or Moyupu, write her off. Get on with the rest of your life
2. leave the building then tell yumezora to come with you
and maybe 3. leave the building and agree to talk with moyupu but at a restaurant or a public place

Obeying Moyupu's demand to get a cab back to his apartment just makes Gomi look like a beta fucking cuck.
Come on Gomi ! you're the one who cucked him! you're the one who fucked his wife without having to marry her or spend any money on her. While he was working hard abroad to pay for her lifestyle , getting her to suck you dick.
You cucked him . You got a discount on what he is paying full price for. You should be the one who is smug, he's the one who should be emasculated and humiliated.

Just going along with whatever Moyupu says like that is unforgivable
Now it's no wonder that Yumezora's going to open her legs for Moyupu in front of you after he beats you up.
She's just an animal. She'll just do whatever a lizard would do.

Given the panel of Gomi opening packing his things with a box cutter and compass , maybe he'll try to use one of those to defend himself.

IDK which would be more interesting and a batter story?
-If Gomi gets beaten up then Yumezora and Moyupu have crazy sex righ in front of Gomi then that would serve Gomi right for acting like both a beta cuck AND a white knight , so I want that to happen because he deserves it. IT's the most predictable though.
-If Gomi gets beaten up but the box cutter is used to kill Moyupu that would be melodramatic . and "getting away with murder" plots are very well-trodden, hackneyed. Wouldn;t fit with the rest of the manga.
-if moyupu tries to beat up Gomi but Gomi actually wins and beats up moyupu then fucks yumezora in front of him that would be pretty surprising and epic. from "the lowest lows to the highest highs" . But also seems unlikely since idk where they would go from there, and giving Gomi a victory here would likely feel "unearned "

I guess the only other option that gives a dramatic direction for the story to continue is if Moyupu beats up Gomi but then when he bangs Yumezora afterwards it's either shown that she's unwilling or it's unclear whether she's unwilling or not.

I'm so mad at Gomi for just submitting to Moyupu's demands that I'm not invested in what happens to him. He deserves it at this point.

 

[Eighty-six]

WTF is wrong with you? Why is he obeying the orders and getting into the car with the guy who just ruined his life?

possibly because Moyupu would fold him like laundry and put him in the taxi himself, if he refused, and all the witnesses would consent to it

 

[danbellucci]

I wonder if Moyupu is meant to be literally bigger and more muscular than Gomi or if that's just meant to represent how intimidated Gomi is?
You wouldn't expect a consultant to be more muscular than a guy whose job is partially manual labour like Gomi unless Moyupu went out of his way to work multiple times a week , but we haven't seen any indication of that besides the fact he beat up Nakusu.
I wouldn't expect Yumezora to choose Gomi to have an affair with if he was both physically inferior and mentally/career-wise/confidence-wise inferior. She seemed sincere when she praised his muscles but maybe she was just saying that to make him feel good. Maybe she intentionally lures men who are physically inferior to Moyupu so that Moyupu would be able to win and beat him up.

Ohhhh One interesting possibility is if Moyupu tries to beat up Gomi, and gomi wins, possibly using a boxcutter, but then Yumezora sides with Moyupu and is angry and vicious towards Gomi for successfully defending himself and her.
That would be quite juicy.
If she does that... let's just say she'd be in the jungle now baby.
MAybe she'd fall in love with Gomi for real if he beats up Moyupu then violates her on top of his incapacitated body (or at least across the room)
Yes, it's all coming together. Then Gomi would "inherit" Yumezora , like a poisoned chalice . She starts shit-testing him, provoking him into using violence on her and the cycle begins again.

So people ignored the fact that he beats his wife, guess what Gomi did was that shocking, as for me, i care about every fact, both should be punished for their respective acts

The office workers haven't been shown clear proof of that.
Gomi made an accusation, one worker said she say Yumezora conceal a bruise and that's it. So yeah video of a guy stealing period pads and masturbating with them takes priority.