Ori no Naka - Ch. 30 - Exile

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That's a lot of words to say Moyupu is a baby.
you're accusing other people of doing things they're not doing at all. Not to convince them, not to win an argument, but to soothe yourself.

Even now that I've explained it to you, you're going to keep doing it.
This is that punchline I'm that everyone except you gets: I explained what you were doing and why and you keep doing it! You're doing it right now!

Then you prove my point by lacking the understanding of others needed to understand me, exactly like I said you would.

Incredible. Do you even have the ability to feel embarrassed or ashamed of what you're doing? If I were in your position, I'd realize I was acting like worthless vermin and stop doing that. Ah, why even ask that? All you can do is fling insults and continue your tantrum at this point.
 
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Are we going to ignore the fact that he just slapped her so hard she went airborne??? It's Gomover, she got sent across the room, no way he wins this
Holy shit are we powerscaling Ori no Naka???

If so, we don't have proof to indicate that his slapping powers transfer over to non-domestic targets. His powerset seems pretty focused on domestic abuse - so Gomi might stand a chance!
 
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So Moyupu is just a totally helpless baby who can't control his own anger? Oh my bad, I didn't realize it, I guess I thought he was her husband not her child.
86 is not saying moyupu is blameless, he's saying that both yumezora and moyupu are bad people who should be blamed. Which is obviously true.
 
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I don't see a single happy ending for this manga.

There's no coming back from the menstrual pad video, especially if it has been published online.

He's going to have a hard time getting any job after this.

Even if he wins a dumb fist fight with that monster of a husband, what then? Will he choose to really be in love with with a severely broken person who needs intensive therapy and probably needs to be institutionalized immediately?
 
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I kinda feel for the husband here. Yeah violence is bad yadda yadda, but its unprovoked violence which is bad. But assuming if I didnt misread a chapter, it seems every single time he has used violence has been in RESPONSE to Yumezora cheating on him.

Like if Yumezora truly 100% wants her husband to stop using violence on her, literally all she has to do is stop cheating. Thats it. I dont recall a single chapter where the husband uses violence in response to something else, like chores, or cooking, or any stereotypical thing you would expect from an abusive husband. Its ALWAYS in response to cheating, assuming if I havent missed a page.

If the husband ever used violence on her when she did literally nothing wrong, like if we see an example of him punching her BEFORE she started cheating, then yeah I can understand all the hate at that point.

But its kinda hard for me to sympathize with someone who voluntarily chooses to get married, and then constantly cheats, and has the audacity to think "How dare he get angry and aggressive with me in response!"

Like girl, you are the one who lit the fuse. Feel free to stop lighting future fuses and no explosions shall happen.
 
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If the husband ever used violence on her when she did literally nothing wrong, like if we see an example of him punching her BEFORE she started cheating, then yeah I can understand all the hate at that point.
He's hit her independent of any cheating. Raped her, too. She's showed up at Gomi's door with scars of abuse well before Moyupu figured out she was cheating on him (again).

When I criticize Yumezora's actions given Moyupu's propensity for violence, that doesn't exculpate Moyupu. If he hates it so much, he can get a divorce instead of performing these Street Fighter combos on her. My point is that she has enough data to get a sense of cause and effect, and she still does bad things (that she knows are bad) knowing that they're liable to provoke other bad things
 
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He's hit her independent of any cheating. Raped her, too. She's showed up at Gomi's door with scars of abuse well before Moyupu figured out she was cheating on him (again).

When I criticize Yumezora's actions given Moyupu's propensity for violence, that doesn't exculpate Moyupu. If he hates it so much, he can get a divorce instead of performing these Street Fighter combos on her. My point is that she has enough data to get a sense of cause and effect, and she still does bad things (that she knows are bad) knowing that they're liable to provoke other bad things
Yumezora cheated on her husband way before she met Gomi. The husband has been aware of her cheating. That day when Yumezora arrived at Gomi's was AFTER all the previous cheating with the previous people took place. This has poisoned his mind from then on out.

So no. I dont think we actually have seen him hit Yumezora independent of cheating. Everytime we have seen him punch her, it was already after she cheated before she met Gomi. In fact, besides the flashback, everytime we have seen him hit her, its DURING her affair with Gomi. The husband most likely knew she was cheating on him again, but didnt know specifically who the latest guy was.

I mean thats the thing. He clearly doesnt want to divorce Yumezora. He wants to be with her. He just wants her to stop fucking cheating on him lmao. Like if we took that variable out of the marriage, I dont see what negatives would arise as a result. The number 1 thing that drove the negatives would have been removed. Every negative action the husband has taken has been AFTER Yumezora betrayed him by cheating.

Like I cant stress this enough. This guy is NOT being violent due to petty shit like "Bitch this chicken is cold!" or household chores not being done. His 1 specific thing that has been triggering his violence has been the infidelity of Yumezora. If that trigger was removed, I dont see the husband flipping out again. Unless new scenes in the manga disprove this in the future.
 
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Yes it is.
Well, technically the actual act of infidelity specifically is not a crime, but you can prosecute someone for damage to your honor and/or psychological damage, and infidelity is included in that.
You will absolutely win in court if you can prove infidelity. The perpetrator (Gomi and Kuroko in this case, yes you can sue both parties) won't get jail time, but they must pay an agreed upon sum of "apology" money (慰謝料).

Gomi is absolutely financially ruined if he takes this to court.

There is no prosecution in civil law.
 
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I kinda feel for the husband here. Yeah violence is bad yadda yadda, but its unprovoked violence which is bad. But assuming if I didnt misread a chapter, it seems every single time he has used violence has been in RESPONSE to Yumezora cheating on him.

Like if Yumezora truly 100% wants her husband to stop using violence on her, literally all she has to do is stop cheating. Thats it. I dont recall a single chapter where the husband uses violence in response to something else, like chores, or cooking, or any stereotypical thing you would expect from an abusive husband. Its ALWAYS in response to cheating, assuming if I havent missed a page.

If the husband ever used violence on her when she did literally nothing wrong, like if we see an example of him punching her BEFORE she started cheating, then yeah I can understand all the hate at that point.

But its kinda hard for me to sympathize with someone who voluntarily chooses to get married, and then constantly cheats, and has the audacity to think "How dare he get angry and aggressive with me in response!"

Like girl, you are the one who lit the fuse. Feel free to stop lighting future fuses and no explosions shall happen.
There is a page in the first chapter the husband is shown where we see the wall of his room has several holes, which is a hint he might be violent with her anyway.

It's still possible that she chose him because he's violent and volatile so reminded her of the guy who first got her pregnant and made her fear for her life, or maybe he was normal to start with then became habitually violent after he realised that she was intentionally provoking him because she likes violence.
 

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