Osananajimi Kanojo no Morahara ga Hidoin de Zetsuen Sengen shite Yatta ~Jibun Rashiku Ikiru Koto ni Shitara, Naze ka Tonari no Seki no Kakure Bishouj…

[Chaos47]

Someone shouted out this manga chapter in another thread so I jumped here after not reading for more than a volume's worth of uploads

I underestimated how bad this "disgusting thing" could have been


Let's put that seeming incongruity aside.

She didn't rape him, and you'd have to do some serious Steiner math to make her actual transgressions to equal to one rape (let alone an indefinite amount-- you can't really math out interpersonal transgressions, anyhow) that will not benefit Souma and that he probably won't even be aware of.

Souma is not relevant when it comes to her punishment. Forget Souma. He doesn't want her to pay for her crimes, so taking HIS opinion or well being into account is pointkess. WE THE READERS demand for her to get some sort of punishment. The author knows this. The whole build up to this type of story IS THE RETRIBUTION. Anything related to her continued apoearances in the story HAS to be for the sake of giving the public what they want. If that wasn't the case, the author would have ended the story already with MC finding happiness with his new friends and GF. It's a slaughter house here, or a Roman Coliseum. We are here to see what the author's cooking up for this devil of a character. That's the truth. And now it seems the build up led to this...it's great, not just this train wreck of a story but the amusing shit storm in the comments section. So much fun. So much entertainment.

 

[Eighty-six]

WE THE READERS demand for her to get some sort of punishment.

Hasn't the punishment been that he's been balling ever since he dropped her like training weights, and she's been left coping and/or seething? That all he did was cut his hair and suddenly, like a reverse Samson, he's displaying the intellect of Sherlock Holmes and the physical prowess of Superman? That he's so desirable that he not only has a closet baddie (that hasn't even gone out with anyone before him) whose subconscious desire to start a family with him has outpaced conscious recognition of wanting to be in an intimate relationship with him, but he's also pulling other people's girlfriends? That her efforts to sabotage him out of bitterness have constantly backfired?

That's the point of this genre of story-- that all the protagonist has to do to become the Übermensch is drop a toxic relation like a bad habit, and then the toxic relation will learn that they needed the protagonist (if they weren't already aware that they were limiting the protagonist as to continue to possess them).

Her getting raped is not retribution, according to the meaning of the word. That's like if Ted Bundy got hit by a drunk driver after being paralyzed from the waist down-- sure, a bad guy is gone from the world, but he was incapable of performing evil at that point, and his being run over had nothing to do with the fact that he was a serial killer. Even in a cosmic perspective, this method of satisfaction is sub-optimal.

If we're talking retribution, then Souma matters a lot more than you're giving credit-- but I can grant that the retribution can be apart from him. The problem here, is that she's about to get raped and prostituted directly because she's attempting to make amends and become a better person. She has yet to consider that what she's trying to prevent from happening (the leaking of the video) is going to reflect severely on her regardless of whether it'll maybe be used as wank material for pedophiles; regardless of whether that's recognized in the narrative, it's been clear that the only concern she's had was about protecting Souma.

That's much more suited for an attempt to redeem her, rather than punish her.

 

[Lewd_Beast]

God... this is stupid.... tbh I am now just here just to watch how more dumb it can get....

"car crash" as we call it

 

[BSPancake]

I HATE BLACKMAIL IN MANGA. Just report that mf, Hanabi. As much of a bitch you are, sexual exploitation is not a just punishment

• Blackmail in Japan is defined under the Penal Code (Article 249).
• It carries up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine up to ¥500,000 (for simple blackmail).
• If it involves extorting larger sums or repeated acts, sentences can be much heavier.
• If it escalates into sexual exploitation (e.g., coercing someone into providing sexual services, distributing sexual images, or "sextortion"), it can fall under other serious crimes too, like:
  • Coercion (強要罪, kyōyōzai) – up to 3 years imprisonment.
  • Forcing indecent acts or sexual exploitation – can bring much heavier penalties, especially if minors are involved.
  • Child pornography laws are extremely strict in Japan. Possession, production, or distribution of sexual images of minors—even consensual "sexting"—can result in severe punishment.
    • A victim who reports blackmail—especially if tied to sexual coercion—will usually be taken seriously, and the blackmailer can face harsh penalties.
    • If minors are involved, the police response is even stricter, as child exploitation is treated as a major crime.

 

[Chaos47]

Hasn't the punishment been that he's been balling ever since he dropped her like training weights, and she's been left coping and/or seething? That all he did was cut his hair and suddenly, like a reverse Samson, he's displaying the intellect of Sherlock Holmes and the physical prowess of Superman? That he's so desirable that he not only has a closet baddie (that hasn't even gone out with anyone before him) whose subconscious desire to start a family with him has outpaced conscious recognition of wanting to be in an intimate relationship with him, but he's also pulling other people's girlfriends? That her efforts to sabotage him out of bitterness have constantly backfired?

That's the point of this genre of story-- that all the protagonist has to do to become the Übermensch is drop a toxic relation like a bad habit, and then the toxic relation will learn that they needed the protagonist (if they weren't already aware that they were limiting the protagonist as to continue to possess them).

Her getting raped is not retribution, according to the meaning of the word. That's like if Ted Bundy got hit by a drunk driver after being paralyzed from the waist down-- sure, a bad guy is gone from the world, but he was incapable of performing evil at that point, and his being run over had nothing to do with the fact that he was a serial killer. Even in a cosmic perspective, this method of satisfaction is sub-optimal.

If we're talking retribution, then Souma matters a lot more than you're giving credit-- but I can grant that the retribution can be apart from him. The problem here, is that she's about to get raped and prostituted directly because she's attempting to make amends and become a better person. She has yet to consider that what she's trying to prevent from happening (the leaking of the video) is going to reflect severely on her regardless of whether it'll maybe be used as wank material for pedophiles; regardless of whether that's recognized in the narrative, it's been clear that the only concern she's had was about protecting Souma.

That's much more suited for an attempt to redeem her, rather than punish her.

Her getting raped may not be "retribution" as you say, BUT IT IS CAUSE AND EFFECT. I would totally have a problem if this was just some random dude raping Ted Bundy in the park. It is true that THAT would have nothing to do with the current plot, so it wouldn't make sense for TED to get raped like that as punishment...but OUR little Ted here CAUSED this to happen single handedly. Her video, her throw away henchman, her guilt. It's well written if you think about it, poetic justice if you will.

 

[Eighty-six]

Her getting raped may not be "retribution" as you say, BUT IT IS CAUSE AND EFFECT. I would totally have a problem if this was just some random dude raping Ted Bundy in the park. It is true that THAT would have nothing to do with the current plot, so it wouldn't make sense for TED to get raped like that as punishment...but OUR little Ted here CAUSED this to happen single handedly. Her video, her throw away henchman, her guilt. It's well written if you think about it, poetic justice if you will.

This guy could do literally anything else that isn't blackmailing her in order to rape and/or prostitute her. There is no legal, social, physical or otherwise cosmic force that is demanding that he demand an exorbitant sum of money in specifically three months-- what do you mean, "cause and effect"?

 

[Chaos47]

This guy could do literally anything else that isn't blackmailing her in order to rape and/or prostitute her. There is no legal, social, physical or otherwise cosmic force that is demanding that he demand an exorbitant sum of money in specifically three months-- what do you mean, "cause and effect"?

He is no longer simping for her and he is not our ALTRUISTIC MC. He too is in a way a victim of her schemes. He just chose not to be merciful when dealing with her. He not only wants to have her and use her as he pleases, he wants her to suffer and he wants monetary compensation while he is at it. Quite the chad if you ask me, not that I sympathize with him though, I do respect him not holding back at all to get his revenge.
Don't even come to a discussion about the events of a story with "what if," "could've," "should've,' "would've" arguments. They are meaningless and stupid. They lead to nowhere, especially when EVERYONE could've done something different from what they did...they just didn't. See what I mean by that is for example, Hanabi (or whatever her name is) COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING ELSE that didn't include possible CP being used against her or the MC. Hanabi COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING ELSE that didn't include seducing a bunch of young horny men into breaking the law, and then dumping them completely after she was done with them. Hanabi COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING ELSE but listen to the shady instructions of one of her former lackeys turned criminal. All the same, our little scum bag (I don't know this guy's name) COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING ELSE that didn't include breaking the law because Hanabi flashed him a smile...or her boobs...or I don't really know what "give him a little bit of love" really entails. The fact is, it's pointless to speculate what a character could've, should've, or would've done in a what if scenario that will never happen.
Cause and effect. Hanabi is evil, she always has been depicted as such. In her schemes, she used others to her advantage, even if it meant that those she used could get hurt. We see her doing this to many different people during the story. She manipulates, threatens, seduces others to get what she wants. In her head, she is always right. So when her little group of followers actually break the law for her, and they end up getting both a criminal record (a huge black mark, especially in Japan), and suspended from school (another black mark, especially in Japan), it stands to reason that these guys will not be too happy. Now, their record has been stained, they are now the lowest in society, they have little to lose. They are criminals, they broke the law once...and who is to say they WOULDN'T break the law again? Hanabi used her sexual charm to get them to do as she pleases...that means she was always a goal for some of them (even if she really didn't ever give any of them the time of day). It's not really far fetched that if one of the guys (who she abandoned completely, may I add, given she never bothered to give any of them a call after getting suspended, and apologize for the way things turned out) has a weapon he can use to twist her (the manipulative bitch) around his finger, he wouldn't use it. She created the monster that is currently trying to eat her. Thus, cause and effect. If you don't get it that's your problem, this explanation has gone far enough.

 

[Eighty-six]

Don't even come to a discussion about the events of a story with "what if," "could've," "should've,' "would've" arguments. They are meaningless and stupid. They lead to nowhere, especially when EVERYONE could've done something different from what they did...they just didn't.

I'm not talking about the events of a story-- I'm talking our expectations of causality that we import into our reading of stories. Again, there is nothing that forces this guy to prostitute a teenager, so you can't talk about this as though this was the inevitable consequence of Hanabi's actions, like if I took a needle to a balloon and it popped, or I dropped a ball and it hit the ground.

It may not be ultimately out of character, but that's not the same as "cause and effect" in addition to it just not being "retribution" or "poetic justice". Again, the only reason this is happening is because she is choosing to become a better and more selfless person. She is trying to protect Souma from becoming fap fodder for greasy anonymous pedophiles because of some third party, with no recognition that the fact that she even had that video would reflect severely poorly on her. If she chose to not reflect on her actions, she would not be preparing to put on the red light right now. Even if she chooses right now to not protect Souma, she doesn't lose anything herself.

I HATE BLACKMAIL IN MANGA. Just report that mf, Hanabi. As much of a bitch you are, sexual exploitation is not a just punishment

• Blackmail in Japan is defined under the Penal Code (Article 249).
• It carries up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine up to ¥500,000 (for simple blackmail).
• If it involves extorting larger sums or repeated acts, sentences can be much heavier.
• If it escalates into sexual exploitation (e.g., coercing someone into providing sexual services, distributing sexual images, or "sextortion"), it can fall under other serious crimes too, like:
  • Coercion (強要罪, kyōyōzai) – up to 3 years imprisonment.
  • Forcing indecent acts or sexual exploitation – can bring much heavier penalties, especially if minors are involved.
  • Child pornography lawsare extremely strict in Japan. Possession, production, or distribution of sexual images of minors—even consensual "sexting"—can result in severe punishment.
    • A victim who reports blackmail—especially if tied to sexual coercion—will usually be taken seriously, and the blackmailer can face harsh penalties.
    • If minors are involved, the police response is even stricter, as child exploitation is treated as a major crime.

big fella do you think any of these characters are going to be written to know the law

 

[BSPancake]

big fella do you think any of these characters are going to be written to know the law

big fella do you think you need to know everything about the law to know blackmail is illegal?

 

[Eighty-six]

big fella do you think you need to know everything about the law to know blackmail is illegal?

I didn't say that you had to know everything about the law-- I asked you if you think these characters are written to know the law.

 

[BSPancake]

I didn't say that you had to know everything about the law-- I asked you if you think these characters are written to know the law.

Yeah? If they see someone get murdered, they're not going to be like "Hm, should I call the cops?" They're in highschool, they should have a decent grasp on basic laws. Must be tough being a pseudo-intellectual

 

[Chaos47]

I'm not talking about the events of a story-- I'm talking our expectations of causality that we import into our reading of stories. Again, there is nothing that forces this guy to prostitute a teenager, so you can't talk about this as though this was the inevitable consequence of Hanabi's actions, like if I took a needle to a balloon and it popped, or I dropped a ball and it hit the ground.

It may not be ultimately out of character, but that's not the same as "cause and effect" in addition to it just not being "retribution" or "poetic justice". Again, the only reason this is happening is because she is choosing to become a better and more selfless person. She is trying to protect Souma from becoming fap fodder for greasy anonymous pedophiles because of some third party, with no recognition that the fact that she even had that video would reflect severely poorly on her. If she chose to not reflect on her actions, she would not be preparing to put on the red light right now. Even if she chooses right now to not protect Souma, she doesn't lose anything herself.


big fella do you think any of these characters are going to be written to know the law

She is not a better person though. She is still the same selfish little girl she always was. Like I said, she never tried to make amends with anyone other than the MC. She screwed over A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES, not just our MC. Our little rapist here claims that she never even bother talking or getting back to any of her underlings, it's proven by the fact she only decided to apologize when facing him for the first time since. She wants to do something for Souma without regard for her own well being, go to the police. Go out and publicly apologize and denounce the guy blackmailing her. Have her own up to her crimes and let the law handle her punishment. And she can still get raped right here and now, so it's not like there are guarantees nothing will happen if she declines.

You're just pissed off the author chose to go this route for her comeupance. It's not wrong for the author to do this, it's his story. It would only be bad if there was no lead up to this, but as I stated before, the groundwork was done beforehand. Even if you don't want to see it that way, it's still cause and effect. Whatever kind of expectations you brought with you, I guess you were expecting a PG, or at worst, a PG-13 type of story? Author seems to want to go the full rated R experience (unless he goes full on hentai, lol). Though...I still doubt anything will really happen, but hey, if he does go through with it, that'd be something unexpected (and, to be honest, a bit disappointing).

 

[Eighty-six]

Yeah? If they see someone get murdered, they're not going to be like "Hm, should I call the cops?" They're in highschool, they should--

I'm telling you that they aren't, regardless of whether they should, because they've been written to be legally illiterate. If they were legally literate, either this entire scenario wouldn't have happened or the guy accosting Hanabi would have gone there with ten other gangsters to abduct her that very night before she could call the cops.

She is not a better person though. She is still the same selfish little girl she always was. Like I said, she never tried to make amends with anyone other than the MC.

Which is objectively better than before, when she was trying to sabotage him and manipulate other people towards that end. She doesn't have to do all the right things all at once for that to be apparent, nor does she have to undertake more efficient methods (you're criticizing her for not going to the cops when she's about to be pimped out instead of going to the cops for that-- obviously, law enforcement has been made an effective non-factor in this story).

You're just pissed off the author chose to go this route for her comeupance.

I'm apathetic, actually. I hadn't read this manga for at least a volume's worth of chapters by the time someone mentioned it in another thread.

I'm just aware that the fact that this happening to her while she's actively working to become a better person and while it is disjoint from what she's actually done (again, this guy can do literally anything else, including nothing, but he's chosen to exhort Hanabi by threatening the reputation of a third party) makes it so that it isn't meant to be her retribution (which she's been repeatedly suffering) but the foundation of what the author considers her redemption. Whatever evil she's accumulated is going to be offshored onto this guy through his victimizing her-- or at least, that's what the author appears to be intending, and that's without also accounting for Hanabi's being expressly cast as a character whose love for Souma was genuine but gravely disordered.

I think it might be more evident if you're familiar with this author's edgy revenge manga-- the villains there are effectively unrepentant until the very ends of their lives, at best bargaining without true contrition, and only in the face of their comeuppance. Hanabi, here, decided to beg for the deletion of the video after receiving comeuppance and in the absence of at least the expectation of further comeuppance through people knowing of this video she made (we see her thoughts, and they're solely of protecting Souma).

 

[Chaos47]

I'm telling you that they aren't, regardless of whether they should, because they've been written to be legally illiterate. If they were legally literate, either this entire scenario wouldn't have happened or the guy accosting Hanabi would have gone there with ten other gangsters to abduct her that very night before she could call the cops.


Which is objectively better than before, when she was trying to sabotage him and manipulate other people towards that end. She doesn't have to do all the right things all at once for that to be apparent, nor does she have to undertake more efficient methods (you're criticizing her for not going to the cops when she's about to be pimped out instead of going to the cops for that-- obviously, law enforcement has been made an effective non-factor in this story).


I'm apathetic, actually. I hadn't read this manga for at least a volume's worth of chapters by the time someone mentioned it in another thread.

I'm just aware that the fact that this happening to her while she's actively working to become a better person and while it is disjoint from what she's actually done (again, this guy can do literally anything else, including nothing, but he's chosen to exhort Hanabi by threatening the reputation of a third party) makes it so that it isn't meant to be her retribution (which she's been repeatedly suffering) but the foundation of what the author considers her redemption. Whatever evil she's accumulated is going to be offshored onto this guy through his victimizing her-- or at least, that's what the author appears to be intending, and that's without also accounting for Hanabi's being expressly cast as a character whose love for Souma was genuine but gravely disordered.

I think it might be more evident if you're familiar with this author's edgy revenge manga-- the villains there are effectively unrepentant until the very ends of their lives, at best bargaining without true contrition, and only in the face of their comeuppance. Hanabi, here, decided to beg for the deletion of the video after receiving comeuppance and in the absence of at least the expectation of further comeuppance through people knowing of this video she made (we see her thoughts, and they're solely of protecting Souma).

What is she protecting Soma from? Oh, that' right, she's protecting him from a video SHE MADE AND SHE CARELESSLY SHARED from spreading. It's gonna take a lot more from her than simply trying to protect MC from a problem SHE CAUSED. It's like trying to praise a pyromaniac for not burning people anymore while also trying his hardest to save people from burning buildings he set fire to.
I get it. You like the character and you hate that the author chose to take this story down such a dark path. But as long as the series of events don't contradict anything that's happened before, I'm not going to condem the writing for it. There has been parts of this story that have been far worse from a writting perspective, but this? This makes sense, even though it's not a good thing happening, it's consistent.

 

[Eighty-six]

What is she protecting Soma from? Oh, that' right, she's protecting him from a video SHE MADE AND SHE CARELESSLY SHARED from spreading. It's gonna take a lot more from her than simply trying to protect MC from a problem SHE CAUSED.

As far as the narrative is concerned, it isn't intrinsically her problem. She loses nothing if that video gets spread. Without her current change of heart, she probably would have let it get spread-- unless the prior-hypothesized love for him would have prevented her from going that far. So, it is significant that she's going out of her way to stop its dissemination now, because it's solely for the sake of someone else.

Yes, the fact that she's trying to stop something she's responsible for starting is the point. Literally, it is her regretting her past actions and trying to make amends. That can be understood without a deceptively applicable analogy. It doesn't need to be "enough", and it doesn't matter that you can at best call it "a start". It's only necessary to recognize it for what it is: the fruit of a change of heart.

I get it. You like the character and you hate that the author chose to take this story down such a dark path. But as long as the series of events don't contradict anything that's happened before, I'm not going to condem the writing for it. There has been parts of this story that have been far worse from a writting perspective, but this? This makes sense, even though it's not a good thing happening, it's consistent.

...what are you talking about? I've never criticized the story (kind of lame as it is), and I've never come close to indicating that I hated where the author was taking the story (because I don't have that kind of investment in this story). This entire conversation started because you think getting raped and pimped out is even related to being a salty ex-girlfriend-- let alone it counting as retribution poetic justice cause-and effect. I never even criticized that happening in the narrative-- I just criticized your idea that this is some comeuppance that's been built up all this time when it's more likely the set-up for redemption-by-victimization.

 

[Chaos47]

As far as the narrative is concerned, it isn't intrinsically her problem. She loses nothing if that video gets spread. Without her current change of heart, she probably would have let it get spread-- unless the prior-hypothesized love for him would have prevented her from going that far. So, it is significant that she's going out of her way to stop its dissemination now, because it's solely for the sake of someone else.

Yes, the fact that she's trying to stop something she's responsible for starting is the point. Literally, it is her regretting her past actions and trying to make amends. That can be understood without a deceptively applicable analogy. It doesn't need to be "enough", and it doesn't matter that you can at best call it "a start". It's only necessary to recognize it for what it is: the fruit of a change of heart.


...what are you talking about? I've never criticized the story (kind of lame as it is), and I've never come close to indicating that I hated where the author was taking the story (because I don't have that kind of investment in this story). This entire conversation started because you think getting raped and pimped out is even related to being a salty ex-girlfriend-- let alone it counting as retribution poetic justice cause-and effect. I never even criticized that happening in the narrative-- I just criticized your idea that this is some comeuppance that's been built up all this time when it's more likely the set-up for redemption-by-victimization.

Did I ever say her being a salty ex-girlfriend was a good enough reason for her to be raped? Im pretty sure all this time I haven't even mentioned her being a salty ex-girlfriend. I've been listing reasons to why her being blackmailed and threatened with rape and sex trafficking was a result of her actions (she broke so many laws and hurt so many people). Whether her reasons for doing said things was her being a salty ex-girlfriend or not are irrelevant. The stuff she did led her to this point, therefore, she gets what's coming to her. Her reasons for doi g what she did are irrelevant. That's what Im arguing. Not whether or not the rape and blackmail are too much of a punishment.

By the way IT IS ALL CAUSE AND EFFECT.

 

[Eighty-six]

Did I ever say her being a salty ex-girlfriend was a good enough reason for her to be raped? Im pretty sure all this time I haven't even mentioned her being a salty ex-girlfriend.

...we've been talking all this time about actions that are downstream from her being a salty ex-girlfriend.

I've been listing reasons to why her being blackmailed and threatened with rape and sex trafficking was a result of her actions (she broke so many laws and hurt so many people).

Your original position was that this was "punishment" and "retribution", and only made a lateral move to "poetic justice" before finally declining to "cause and effect" after me arguing that the incongruity between her actions/motives and her current situation A) precludes this from being "punishment", and B) is clearly sub-optimal in providing satisfaction in retribution.

I mean, we can still call this "punishment", but we would have to say that she's being punished for trying to become a better and more selfless person (when she does not have to be if her goal is self-preservation).

Which is silly.

The stuff she did led her to this point, therefore, she gets what's coming to her.

What got her here is specifically that she had a change of heart and wants to prevent harm she set up. If she didn't have that, this would likely have been no skin off her nose.

 

[Chaos47]

...we've been talking all this time about actions that are downstream from her being a salty ex-girlfriend.


Your original position was that this was "punishment" and "retribution", and only made a lateral move to "poetic justice" before finally declining to "cause and effect" after me arguing that the incongruity between her actions/motives and her current situation A) precludes this from being "punishment", and B) is clearly sub-optimal in providing satisfaction in retribution.

I mean, we can still call this "punishment", but we would have to say that she's being punished for trying to become a better and more selfless person (when she does not have to be if her goal is self-preservation).

Which is silly.


What got her here is specifically that she had a change of heart and wants to prevent harm she set up. If she didn't have that, this would likely have been no skin off her nose.

What in the world is going on through that head of yours? Seriously, I'm amazed. Are you honestly only looking at the "current" her when looking at this situation? You really think that because she "turned a new leaf" all is forgiven and nobody has anything to get back at her for? Honestly, if you really don't see this as a consequence of her actions, then there really is something wrong with the way you see things. Why does this guy have to care about her no longer tormenting her friend? He doesn't. He is getting back at her for his own personal reasons. Did you ever even try to see that there is more to this chick than just being the bully ex-girlfriend of the protag? That's why this works. Our MC was not her only victim. Just because HE FORGIVES AND FORGETS doesn't mean others will be this nice to her. So yes, I stand for what I keep saying. Her actions led her to this. It is all cause and effect. For the readers, this is a way to show her getting punished for the way she's acted throughout the story.

"Punishment for being a better person"...I swear, the things people come up with...

 

[BSPancake]

I'm telling you that they aren't, regardless of whether they should, because they've been written to be legally illiterate. If they were legally literate, either this entire scenario wouldn't have happened or the guy accosting Hanabi would have gone there with ten other gangsters to abduct her that very night before she could call the cops.

The guy accosting her is a highschooler who's been thinking with his dick pretty much the whole series. I'd actually consider it even more unrealistic that he would suddenly partake in organised crime than Hanabi knowing blackmail is illegal. Of course, almost none of this manga would've happened if the people in it were written realistically. You have to allow a certain degree of stupidity. But not knowing basic laws is quite a stretch.

 

[Eighty-six]

What in the world is going on through that head of yours? Seriously, I'm amazed. Are you honestly only looking at the "current" her when looking at this situation? You really think that because she "turned a new leaf" all is forgiven and nobody has anything to get back at her for?

She doesn't get "gotten back at" if this guy tells her that she's going to leak the video she gave him BUT she stays her ass put instead of going to that park because it has nothing to do with her.

Her impending self-prostitution doesn't happen if she doesn't want it to, because what she's being extorted over isn't about her.

Think about it:

"Hey, if you don't come to this park in the middle of the night, I'm gonna leak this embarrassing video of your childhood friend pissing himself to the World Wide Web so the fattest and greasiest pedophiles can jerk off to it!"
"k"
"wait what"

Honestly, if you really don't see this as a consequence of her actions, then there really is something wrong with the way you see things.

As I've already described, you tried to sell this as punishment and retribution, before laterally adjusting to "poetic justice", then declining to a trivial "cause and effect". Now you're trying to go back to double down by once again talking about it as "punishment"/"retribution"-- which brings us back to my starting argument, which is that she was constantly getting punished up to this point and is only in the situation she's currently in because she's attempting to do the right thing.

That's not going to reliably inspire the feeling of "yeah, she's getting her comeuppance!"-- and you've seen that in this thread, with people other than me. Realistically, and especially given how Yukishiro has long hypothesized that Hanabi's love was genuine despite it being gravely distorted in its demonstration, it's a way for the author to decrease her evil karma by making her a victim of a far less sympathetic evil character.

As recently stated, I don't have a problem with you asserting this is a consequence of her actions-- I had a problem with you pitching this as whatever you were talking about before you settled on just "cause and effect", I had a problem with the deterministic implications of "cause and effect" (as if this guy can't help but to extort Hanabi because of her past actions), and I have a problem with you not processing that her impending extortion only happens because Hanabi is attempting to be better, after being worse. No crumb of metanoia, no going to the park and no getting extorted.

I'd actually consider it even more unrealistic that he would suddenly partake in organised crime than Hanabi knowing blackmail is illegal.

I've read a manga where a high school girl used her life savings, stored in a piggy bank, to pay delinquents to gangrape her school bully-- I find these to be on about the same level of verisimilitude.