【Oshi no Ko】 - Vol. 16 Ch. 166.5 - Volume 16 Extras

[SuperOniichan]

the irony considering Aqua is 30 something years older than him mentally

Yes, it's especially ridiculous if you look back and remember how people aggressively criticized the Aqua ships because of Goro's age. Or how Aqua actively used Goro's mind to manipulate things in story in the past. But when Aka needed it, Aqua instantly turned into an edgelord teenager filled with negative emotions. I never thought I'd say this, but Rudeus' reincarnation was clearly better written.

yeah, this is a bit doomed

honestly I wonder if akasaka will ever get back to fix ib as he said

anyways thanks translators for the tl

I think any possibility of a sequel, retcon, spin-off, etc. depends on how well his career goes after this. If we continue my comparisons with Hollywood, then situations when stars try to regain popularity by reviving their old proven hits are quite common. I think it's objectively possible to predict that the ending of Oshi no Ko will deal a major blow to his reputation as an author and given the weak synopsis and setting his new manga won't last long, but I don't want to try to predict the future. For example, the author of Spy x Family literally became a star thanks to a hit commercial work after years of unsuccessful attempts. But the fact that Aka himself already seems to be acknowledging the problems and trying to fix them after the fact is a good sign.

 

[Grimmycoffee]

Because as some people wrote, Ruby had previously found herself in a similar situation and was saved with the help of friends and family. Very successfully rescued. What stopped Aqua from doing the same, especially given his good mind and manipulative planning skills? Only if Aka was not in accelerated mode to kill him at any cost.

What similar situation? And if this is about Kamiki, I think Aqua chose the best path for his goal with the least amount of risk in theory.

 

[voltaseca]

Fuck Hackasaka Hacka

 

[TheBlackGamer]

Yes, it's especially ridiculous if you look back and remember how people aggressively criticized the Aqua ships because of Goro's age. Or how Aqua actively used Goro's mind to manipulate things in story in the past. But when Aka needed it, Aqua instantly turned into an edgelord teenager filled with negative emotions. I never thought I'd say this, but Rudeus' reincarnation was clearly better written.

With him he was an adult who was very childish so it's easier to write a failure adult being a better person when given a 2nd chance in life vs. An accomplished doctor striving for revenge.

Honestly people with the whole he's mentally old never made sense to me because in-story the character would just be perceived as mature or a genius. He's still a young adult even if his mind is that of an adult.

 

[Knighto]

What similar situation? And if this is about Kamiki, I think Aqua chose the best path for his goal with the least amount of risk in theory.

I think he meant Akane for the suicide case

 

[andyarc1995]

Ban aka from the manga and anime industry already... Jesus man, how do you manage to screw this badly? I hope he retires enterily after his new manga is axed like love agency.

 

[Wanderer00]

I think any possibility of a sequel, retcon, spin-off, etc. depends on how well his career goes after this. If we continue my comparisons with Hollywood, then situations when stars try to regain popularity by reviving their old proven hits are quite common. I think it's objectively possible to predict that the ending of Oshi no Ko will deal a major blow to his reputation as an author and given the weak synopsis and setting his new manga won't last long, but I don't want to try to predict the future. For example, the author of Spy x Family literally became a star thanks to a hit commercial work after years of unsuccessful attempts. But the fact that Aka himself already seems to be acknowledging the problems and trying to fix them after the fact is a good sign.

Bold of you to assume people will want to read anymore of his works after this fumble, I know I won't. I am done.

 

[SuperOniichan]

What similar situation? And if this is about Kamiki, I think Aqua chose the best path for his goal with the least amount of risk in theory.

Committing suicide in a crazy suicidal plan that is largely based on the complete devaluation of his life and experiences up to this point (not to mention his development as a character) and expectation that things will work out the way you want them to? Give your life for 5-6 years of your sister’s successful career, ruining the lives of your loved ones? For example, in one scene Akane even suggests that he didn't know if Ruby would even be able to handle the consequences of this. Even though he literally did it for her sake in the first place. Are you trolling me? Ruby actually found herself in a similar situation back in the last arc and her friends and family defended her.

Bold of you to assume people will want to read anymore of his works after this fumble, I know I won't. I am done.

To be honest, I already had such thoughts. It seems a lot of people will happily gloat if this is the end of his career.

I think he meant Akane for the suicide case

I meant the moment when Nino tried to kill Ruby, but they dressed Akane as her and thanks to this they were able to trap Nino without any crazy plans.

Ban aka from the manga and anime industry already... Jesus man, how do you manage to screw this badly? I hope he retires enterily after his new manga is axed like love agency.

I wouldn't be surprised if things really started to get too dark for him that he would immediately try to write some kind of alternate ending/sequel or desperately satisfy other fan desires in an attempt to regain relevance.

 

[SuperOniichan]

With him he was an adult who was very childish so it's easier to write a failure adult being a better person when given a 2nd chance in life vs. An accomplished doctor striving for revenge.

Honestly people with the whole he's mentally old never made sense to me because in-story the character would just be perceived as mature or a genius. He's still a young adult even if his mind is that of an adult.

I still think that a childish adult and an edgelord teenager are somewhat different things. Goro had a childish personality, but he wasn't an immature man with the personality of a guy with 8th grader syndrome. Moreover, Aka has already portrayed Aqua as an overly mature and serious child earlier.

 

[punpunpun]

?????????? did bro really kill frill off in the epilogue just for fun, am i retarded?

 

[TheBlackGamer]

I still think that a childish adult and an edgelord teenager are somewhat different things. Goro had a childish personality, but he wasn't an immature man with the personality of a guy with 8th grader syndrome. Moreover, Aka has already portrayed Aqua as an overly mature and serious child earlier.

I was describing Rudeus as a childish failure adult.

 

[SuperOniichan]

I was describing Rudeus as a childish failure adult.

Oh, that's what you're talking about. Well, my point is that while the original Rudy was clearly not an example of a conscientious and mature adult like Goro, for obvious reasons, you can still see how his past life experiences help him avoid typical teenage problems.

 

[Sheza]

At least Kaguya escaped Akasaka's despair boner. Ib really broke the man, huh?

oh yeah he wrote instant bullet, now i member

 

[Kampfarsch]

somehow palpatine returned
this just solidifies how aqua made the worst possible move
He had 2 shots at life and fumbled both, what a nuclear failure

 

[krkj]

Honestly, I wish the story just went the "incest" route. Like, fuck it, just go all the way and cement the manga in history as the most based normie manga ever made. But no, in this shitty timeline Aka or someone else in power decided to just burn the plot down.

All out Incest in literature/media has been legally curbed by Japanese govt back in 2010/2011 if not slightly earlier iirc. Not completely restricted but the topic can not be shown in a positive light. It birthed the whole not-related by blood trope, like in NGNL. If I remember the timings correctly, it's why Oreimo tiptoed with the topic very carefully in the anime adaptation and skipped to the ending so that it airs before the bill becomes law or something.

 

[TheBlackGamer]

All out Incest in literature/media has been legally curbed by Japanese govt back in 2010/2011 if not slightly earlier iirc. Not completely restricted but the topic can not be shown in a positive light. It birthed the whole not-related by blood trope, like in NGNL. If I remember the timings correctly, it's why Oreimo tiptoed with the topic very carefully in the anime adaptation and skipped to the ending so that it airs before the bill becomes law or something.

I see. I understand why but that still sounds retarded. Like curbing artistic freedom like that will always piss me off. It's like people can understand that fiction is fiction and real life is real life.

Even without fiction there will always exist weird people making excuses for weird things. Incest is banned here in the states but that doesn't stop articles popping up saying it should be allowed.

Hell the incest route in this story whether intentional at first or not would've been better received than what we got and people understood it's a weird pairing but still rooted for it anyway.

 

[SuperOniichan]

oh yeah he wrote instant bullet, now i member

This manga also ended in something edgy?

All out Incest in literature/media has been legally curbed by Japanese govt back in 2010/2011 if not slightly earlier iirc. Not completely restricted but the topic can not be shown in a positive light. It birthed the whole not-related by blood trope, like in NGNL. If I remember the timings correctly, it's why Oreimo tiptoed with the topic very carefully in the anime adaptation and skipped to the ending so that it airs before the bill becomes law or something.

Don't tell me that this is a typical case where sexual things are taken more seriously than violence and that therefore the open romanticization of suicide will be perceived less negatively than a more or less happy ending with incest. But anyway, if we remembered Oreimo, then why not just write the true ending as douji like he did?

 

[Knighto]

?????????? did bro really kill frill off in the epilogue just for fun, am i retarded?

maybe restarted... jk aside, it sounds more like she retires from acting with that last movie or maybe an error of TL, with more of her last movie rather than final. (or the film is part of a series of films of gotanda sensei and this was the last one)

 

[SuperOniichan]

maybe restarted... jk aside, it sounds more like she retires from acting with that last movie or maybe an error of TL, with more of her last movie rather than final. (or the film is part of a series of films of gotanda sensei and this was the last one)

It was previously mentioned that Frill wanted to retire from acting, possibly indicating that this would be her last acting role.

 

[Sheza]

This manga also ended in something edgy?

Don't tell me that this is a typical case where sexual things are taken more seriously than violence and that therefore the open romanticization of suicide will be perceived less negatively than a more or less happy ending with incest. But anyway, if we remembered Oreimo, then why not just write the true ending as douji like he did?

id take the incest route over the suicide route anytime of the day