【Oshi no Ko】 - Vol. 16 Ch. 166.5 - Volume 16 Extras

[TheBlackGamer]

Spoiler

Many felt that Yotsuba's victory was unjustified and that she was a creator pet since she had the least ROMANTIC development from all five girls and spent most of the story being Fuutarou's sidekick who helped him develop things with the other sisters.

Oh just salt. Ye that reasoning sounds like sore losers in waifu war stories. Is why I don't bother with harems much. Most are like this and don't commit to what the tag should mean beginning to end. Not like it matters much in that story specifically all of them are gonna be together regardless of who was chosen.

 

[SuperOniichan]

I said it's less apparent in Kaguya, but from what I've gathered Aqua's self-sacrificing attitude isn't that far off from Ishigami's "hero of justice" way of thinking in middle school. Though in Ishigami's case it was only his social life that was taken away. If influencers and youtubers want to make bank hyping up manga they could at least try and connect it with other stuff the mangaka has done, that should be a reasonable expectation for some one that is advertising they know about manga. There's no reason to have high expectations that someone who's most famous work is a romcom will do drama well, but he's done it bite sizes in Kaguya and it would be something to extrapolate from there. But he has written a dramatic series, and it's fully translated in English, so at least for those hyping it up, they could have used that as a reference point. It's the reason why I only read three chapters when Oshi no Ko was still being scanned, it looked interesting but I didn't have faith in Akasaka to pull it off in the end. It's unfair to fans to think they should have encyclopedic knowledge of a mangaka's works, but it isn't to tell them they need to check their expectations for something new and to not get caught up in what everyone else is saying about the series, positive or negative. My point is that Akasaka made mistakes, but fans are blowing it out of proportion. I've had enough of fans turning on a series they allegedly loved, only for cooler head to prevail in the long run. I don't think Akasaka is a great drama writer but he's enjoyable enough, and given the popularity of Oshi no Ko up to this point I don't think it's going to be remembered poorly either. He's already writing a new series in Weekly Young Jump after the end of his other one, it doesn't seem like the fan backlash is showing up enough in the volume sales for this to affect him.

I don't really get why you're calling me a zoomer because of that, I only registered in the forum last year, I've had an account for tracking manga pretty much since this site went up after the original batoto went down. I thought the forums account was the same, but it's registered separately. You're right though, I have been acting arrogant and provocative, I wanted to start a fight but I'm already hating this.

Up to this point, his two most famous works were one short dramatic series and an almost cult, internationally famous comedy series, which literally made a name for him. One drama and one comedy. Moreover, it was the latter that made him a widely recognized and famous author. Why couldn't people view him through the prism of this work? And why did they have to take anything as an example at all? Why couldn't people evaluate Oshi no Ko on its own, considering not only its past experiences (and different experiences at that), but also the work itself? Did you really expect people to say "huh, I don't care what he wrote in his most famous work that made his name, we'll judge him by an old edgy manga that most people don't even know exists"? I'm serious. Not only can you not see things through other people's eyes, you also seem unable to understand that your point of view is fundamentally subjective like others. With this approach, any of your attempts to claim knowledge and intelligence are simply ridiculous, sorry. I won’t even talk about how toxic and cynical all these attempts to blame the fans themselves for the problems and mistakes of the author are.

Exaggerated? Dude, he just effectively ruined his magnus opus to such an extent that the live action completely changes the emphasis in its ending, completely changing the context of events, and people are greeting the announcement of his new manga with mocking and barbs for the second time in a row. Many who just yesterday were adoringly waiting for the new season of anime, now don’t even know if they will watch it at all. If Aka was once a "great drama writer", it was during Kaguya's time many years ago and, as many have already realized, there were bad signs even then. I don't know how his career will develop in the future or how this volume will sell, but given the generic premise of his new work and the general attitude of fans towards it and towards him in general after the ending of Oshi no Ko, it will be a miracle if his manga at least does not end in failure. Aka overestimated the credit given to him and decided that risking such big things would pay off well for him. And he lost.

Because you literally behave like a modern child, whose opinions are rather immature and strange, but who at the same time behaves very arrogantly and defiantly, as if directly declaring to your face that he is smarter and more educated than you. I don’t know how old you are, really, but this is the same pattern of behavior that at one time became the reason for the appearance of the “lurk more” rule on imageboards. Of course, I apologize if there are any misunderstandings between us, but you clearly shouldn’t have started the conversation in that tone.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Oh just salt. Ye that reasoning sounds like sore losers in waifu war stories. Is why I don't bother with harems much. Most are like this and don't commit to what the tag should mean beginning to end. Not like it matters much in that story specifically all of them are gonna be together regardless of who was chosen.

No, they are right at the root of the problem. Go-Toubun does have some issues with its narratives and emphasis. Elementary because such a choice was not obvious, distracting people to other issues. But on the other hand, even if I forget that I was biased as a fan of the winning girl, it clearly wasn't as bad as some people think. Moreover, the author had some misunderstanding with the fans from the very beginning of the manga after the editor forced him to include a certain trope against his will, which facilitated the plot, but gave readers the wrong understanding of some points.

 

[AAA1]

Gotta be a necromancer

She needs a crow to be in debt

 

[MasterSabo13]

Ah fuck me. I was debating whether to read or not since the faster I stop caring about Oshi no Ko, the better.

Well, I read it. Shouldn't have read it. Crazy how I came with negative expectations yet Aka still got me.

Oh Aka, Akasaka Aka.
May you forever be stream sniped in Apex, and all your future works be axed.

 

[SuperOniichan]

Ah fuck me. I was debating whether to read or not since the faster I stop caring about Oshi no Ko, the better.

Well, I read it. Shouldn't have read it. Crazy how I came with negative expectations yet Aka still got me.

Oh Aka, Akasaka Aka.
May you forever be stream sniped in Apex, and all your future works be axed.

I even wonder what part of the audience for his new manga will read this solely for the sake of hate reading and debate about how quickly it will fall.

 

[Knighto]

I even wonder what part of the audience for his new manga will read this solely for the sake of hate reading and debate about how quickly it will fall.

we live in a world were kanokari hasn't got axed, there's no fairness

 

[LordofAlI]

Man this is so mid. Oh well at least I can remember the good parts. I can't believe of MHA, JJK, and Oshi No Ko the one with the ending I was most disappointed by was OnK. It's the not the worst ending ever or anything but still quite disappointing how this manga went.

 

[LordofAlI]

So will Akane successfully learn how to be a medium, then summon Aqua's ghost and try have ghost sex with him? Will Aqua's ghost go to Kana's place to fuck her while Akane's watching? Will Ruby find out and rape Aqua's ghost? Can they get pregnant? Will their child be human or ghost? Will Ruby's child be retarded?

Find out in the next Episode of OnKZ! Coming NEVER!!!

 

[luigiymario2]

Man, I hate mangakas doing shitty sad endings :'(

 

[lswgamer]

So will Akane successfully learn how to be a medium, then summon Aqua's ghost and try have ghost sex with him? Will Aqua's ghost go to Kana's place to fuck her while Akane's watching? Will Ruby find out and rape Aqua's ghost? Can they get pregnant? Will their child be human or ghost? Will Ruby's child be retarded?

Hey buddy, the Bleach sequel arc is two blocks down.

 

[fflogschampion]

...

That's it?

And that shitty novel?

...

Fuck.

 

[Kenshiroo]

Absolute ass ending

 

[Carn109]

Memcho still the GOAT

 

[AcidVlad]

It is peak kino ass
First time I witness such thing

 

[Lustrist]

you were my oshi no ko

 

[SuperOniichan]

Man this is so mid. Oh well at least I can remember the good parts. I can't believe of MHA, JJK, and Oshi No Ko the one with the ending I was most disappointed by was OnK. It's the not the worst ending ever or anything but still quite disappointing how this manga went.

The sad thing is that both ended up releasing major extended epilogues that, if they don't completely fix their endings, at least seriously improve it by closing some character arcs, dealing with (or at least trying to) with the romance, etc. While Aka ultimately only made things worse, turning Oshi no Ko fans into this year's biggest losers.

Man, I hate mangakas doing shitty sad endings :'(

Dude really thinks like his manga had a bittersweet inspirational amd motivational ending lmao.

we live in a world were kanokari hasn't got axed, there's no fairness

I will laugh if in the end this manga gets a completely logical and correct conceptual ending in terms of its themes and narratives. If we're already the biggest losers of the year, then why stop, lmao?

 

[krkj]

I've only read the first three chapters of this series, but it sounds like most people are upset with an image of this series that was never true, and let hype yotubers and influencers convince them otherwise. This sounds like exactly the kind of series Akasaka would write. You played yourselves.

3+ early influencers peddling very specific talking points is no coincidence in social media. These are ad campaigns initiated by manga publishers.

Same is seen with Dandadan where people dont know the name of the mangaka but they surely know it is written by a fujimoto's assistant. SxF also had another assistant but did not have this specific talking point, but Centuria also has the same dandadan marketing topic. The origin of all these talking points are inorganic

 

[Shadowbox150]

The GOATs return! Thank you for translating, Ai's Fanclub!

 

[Knighto]

I will laugh if in the end this manga gets a completely logical and correct conceptual ending in terms of its themes and narratives. If we're already the biggest losers of the year, then why stop, lmao?

hahaha that would be super hard to get, but it would actually be pretty fun, but their "normal" fans wouldn't be happy with the series suddenly turning... good hahaha