Otomege Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu - Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - Items of the Saint

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Wow, I'm legitimately thinking that Marie might actually get a redemption arc and make up with her brother.
 
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Plus if you want an entertaining isekai antagonist,
https://mangadex.org/title/29179/the-villainess-is-adored-by-the-crown-prince-of-the-neighboring-kingdom

You serious? The main characters of that manga were so dull that I dropped it. Maybe it's different in the WN or the story might of picked up after I stopped reading it.

@Faryshta Thanks for the heads up, there goes another one...
 
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@Psychronia Livia is eventually going to become the saint, which seems to be higher than most nobles. Being a mob is a valid reason imo from standing point of view.
 
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I said Antagonist, akari is entertaining

The protagonist indeed has nothing going for her besides her self defense debate in ch1&2. Rest of her fluff with prince seahorse is indeed so generic that i forgot what her name was. I'm hardly the only to point that out, a few people have too in the latest chapters comments.

https://mangadex.org/thread/217705/6/#post_1711141
https://mangadex.org/thread/217705/6/#post_1717753
 
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@Hobnobs not any big plot spoilers just some minor character ones:

does she get a redemption arc?:
i don't think she ever gets a redemption arc IIRC but
she's basically become a 2nd main character in the LN and is
beyond vol 3 of the LN she's one of my favourite characters. it's weird the more i see of her the more i actually like her.
 
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While the quality of the story goes a bit downhill, I'm wondering where people are getting the abandon ship mentality from. Sure it may not be your cup of tea, but. . .

The whole arc with the war ends in ways I wasn't expecting for some characters. And while the second game arc is definitely worse and sidelines certain characters, Leon screwing over people is fantastic as always. And Marie becomes a favorite with her money troubles.

And about his whole Olivia thing, the novel expands it out a bit more than just being a mob. He is nobility of a rank high enough marrying a commoner isn't something he can do. And even if she became the Saint(ess) or whatever you want to call her, she then becomes so high in social standing that he can't marry her. Same with Angie, his rank is so low that marrying a Duke's daughter (and possibly the highest ranked Duke) seems out of his reach. Beyond pure willful blindness, he both can't believe they can really like him and he also is in the mindset that they shouldn't like him so the game can progress.

Future spoilers ahead but,
this belief kinda bites him repeatedly. The female protagonist of the second game falls in love with Leon. Leon doesn't register she loves him and it isn't helped by the fact that they are trying to ship her off to one of her game-route partners. The epilogue of volume 5 is basically about the robots forcing Leon to realize his situation because he keeps playing the coward about the whole thing.
 
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@zerio I know that bit, but the fact stands that this wouldn't affect his progression with her as far as flags and "routes" go. The two of them are building a lot of affection, and their position right now makes it wholly a case of Leon ignoring her interest in him instead of knowing his place.

Not to mention, she definitely won't care even after she becomes the Saint and the only thing holding her back would be the (totally false) impression that he's not interested in her in that way.

@deltarayedge Yeah...I don't mind that story, but the characters are so wishfulfilment-packed sweetness that's actually kinda annoying. The fact that their names are so awkward and weird makes it worse.
 
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So much talking this chapter. Over half was Leon sitting on his ass talking to a sphere. Not that that's bad but I have a shitty attention span.
 

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