Oversimplified SCP - Ch. 108 - SCP-1032

[MangaDex]

 

[lunaticrunes]

ty!!!

 

[Slingwang]

Oh ho, Shin Godzilla reference

 

[Iheart]

Explanation for the SCP-1032-10 hand since the single panel did a poor job: Since the D-class guy was predicted to die, they tried avoiding that by putting him in an airtight steel vault with an oxygen device. The D-class died anyways since it turned out his tank was accidentally filled with nerve gas.

Also, for SCP-1032-03, after the class was promoted to Euclid (since it seems to be self aware), the current prediction is "My Euclid classification". They are planning on lowering the status back to Safe because the other alternative would be be something happening that would cause them to view the clock as a Keter.

 

[Doutei-Sama]

So basically, a self-aware future-predicting clock that is capable of reversing the causality with a inferiority complex?

 

[Scrwd]

The scary things about future-reading devices like these is that they "lock" you in a certain timeline, no matter how dangerous that timeline is and what you do. The prime example is the D class that would have lived had they not tried to save him and acccidentally put nerve gas in the bottle.

 

[Rgal]

Wow, they must really like that hotdog restaurant to go out of their way to keep it in business.

 

[NamelessSoldier]

This device could be pretty useful if it acts almost like a Schrodinger's box... It looks like the prophecies are somewhat self-fulfilling as well. Perhaps it could be used as a Thaumiel last resort to try to assert a better reality should all other attempts fail if it does in fact work in that manner.

 

[Kneel_Breen]

@NamelessSoldier

I guess it would be like Schrodinger’s Box if the box was determined to be somewhat sapient and could replace the cat with an explosive mine.

 

[Drakan]

@Iheart one thing that could get it upped to keter is an unfortunate experiment like the one listed in scp 90 (the rubik cube), which showed it wasn't just capable of predicting events, but causing them

 

[nightmoves17]

>a clock predicted Godzilla

Now that's pretty fucking scary.

 

[Sheogorath85]

@shurim thanks again for picking this series up!

 

[Xer0sama]

But that's not how the classification system works.
It's danger and power is irrelevant, but how difficult it is to keep locked away.
If you can set it in a box and leave it there, it's Safe.
If you can set it in a box and it leaves, but all you have to do is set up some mundane shit like a strong lock, it's Euclid, as in Euclidean, as in the geometry of normal experience.
If you set it in a box and it leaves, so you have to set up some elaborate bullshit to convince it to stay, it's Keter, as in the topmost sephirot of the Tree of Life, as in wacky bullshit is going on.
If it IS the box, it's Thaumiel.
And then there's a handful of very specific classifications.

My favorite example is SCP 1425- Star Signals, Class Safe.
It's a normal book by any means and it's containment is just a simple locker. But the shit it teaches can lead to an XK End of the World Scenario.
Safe does not mean Safe.

 

[nightmoves17]

@Xer0sama It's because of it's ironic unpredictability that makes it Euclid. Imagine if 1032 predicted that it would escape. The Foundation would do everything in their power and fail to keep that from happening because all of its predictions come true. Add the self awareness it possesses and it literally can do anything it wants just by making a prediction. If 1032 exhibited any malicious intent then it would definitely gain a Keter classification.

 

[Hekoo]

That's kinda cute ngl lmao

Thank you for the amazing translation!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WillTell]

just ban all reclassifications of the object until the predicted date.

 

[Njin]

@WillTell

That's tempting fate. If you ban all reclassifications, but the predictions always come true.... then it follows that something will happen that *will* force the foundation to reclassify it. It might be as simple as a clerk making a mistake.... or the thing causing major havoc.

 

[Solipsist]

@nightmoves17
What I don't understand about this series, or TL team, is that they do not understand that classification-levels do not measure danger, but difficulty of containment.
"The Common Cold" would have maximum level, since it is virtually impossible to contain. A clock, however, serves no issue to contain. Even with what you wrote, that "it may predict its own escape", it's doubtful that's how the clock even works (that it creates causality, rather than predict it).

Going by what was written in the comic, there's no reason to think that a stationary clock would be difficult to contain.
@Xer0sama
I Should've scrolled a bit lower before making that comment. derp.
Hear hear.

 

[Drakan]

@Solipsist
What do the series and translators have to do with that? this is the same level given to the clock in the scp wiki

Also, it's been standard for a while to class pretty much anything sentient/self aware as at least Euclid due to their inherent unpredictability (and the fact it references it's own containment status heavily implies some level of self awareness), they also can't rule out 1032 actually having reality affecting abilities and a hand in actually causing the events rather than just predicting them (and no, you NEVER assume best case scenario of "it doesn't actually DO anything", in lore the foundation learns this the hard way after trying to mess with SCP-90), and it didn't predict it's own escape, but potentially more, according to the site http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1032
"SCP-1032-021
Current text: "The SCP Foundation.""

 

[Solipsist]

@Drakan
In my first line, I was referring to the note that says: "(pretty dangerous)", which is not what the classification-levels are there to represent.
As for "whether or not it should be labeled safe", sure, yeah. I got ahead of myself.