Rude Readers

[Lolilolol]

Dear scanlator members,

Let's have a talk.

I've seen lots of rude readers lurking around here and there but have you guys ever encountered the most rude reader that literally make you go, "F/K YOU!"

...and angry and down.

 

[Nick_Asano]

I take no issue to mean comments if it's point is to criticize bad writing in a chapter or plot. If anything I have bigger problems with comments that are ruthlessly positive no matter what the author does. Take Tower of God, for example. The comments under it over at Webtoons are disgustingly positive all the time with the top comments shrieking the same three things; "Like the chapter ya'll! Let's get TOG back where it deserves!" or "I bought fast pass and it was definitely worth it and you should too!!" or "Don't forget to like the chapter ya'll! (long rant about how great and hardworking the author is)".
This bothers me because while TOG was a great webtoon and the art is only getting better it's gone down in quality in every way that matters to me, and none of their fans on Webtoons are addressing this. I say Webtoons because a lot of their fans over at the TOG subreddit actually have.
In short, baseless criticism is damaging to a growing work of art, but baseless positivity is perhaps more damaging to a declining work of art. That's why I encourage "rude" comments, so long as they're constructive and have a valid point.

 

[Teddy]

@Nick_Asano
How often are rude comments constructive compared to how often constructive criticism is presented kindly?
I ain't a scanlator, but I've taken my torch down to the comment sections a few times and so much of the "rude comments" are just single sentence insults or asking the TL to intimate acts in a non sexual way to put it mildly.

 

[Nick_Asano]

@Teddy You have a point. It's just that to a lot of people who are fans of the thing being criticized ANY criticism, even when it's constructive and as kind as possible, is toxic vitriol. Most "constructive" criticisms are neither inherently kind nor rude, but rather analytical and advisory. But again, any criticism is caustic in the eyes of the fans of that particular thing, particularly the fans who feel the need to reply to a comment that's dolling out said criticism.

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

I stopped trusting the community at Webtoon when I realized that literally everything is 9+ and the ratings become unreliable. Granted, there are so many good things there. But some things are so falsely "good".

 

[sterven]

What do you mean by being rude? Is it to the author or the scanlators? Cause if its towards the authors then i'm guilty of being an asshole as for
scanlators not so much unless you know THIS happens lol.

 

[Kanami-chan]

Most readers are very ungrateful and take everything for granted, yes.

 

[hazzack]

i personally grateful to such rude people, while not only they guide me to such interesting art, the drama they made could become a good read themselves. they also contribute create a somehow "neutral" community, where we actually can trust a user inputted rating.

except when they only utter curse words without any context of why they are so displeased, i think they deserve a slow death.

also @sterven is that the rumored "scanlator migrating" and such thread? i only know such event from a manga comment i read a while ago. i am very much grateful for the link to that thread.

 

[sterven]

@hazzack
lol yup it's that one alright.

 

[schlo]

@Kanami-chan

can you be a little more descriptive of what you are thinking of? Ungrateful, do you mean that they don't say thank you enough or is it reading sniped stories or something else? What about the taking it for granted? Are talking about complaints of short chapters or other stuff?

Having worked jobs where I did hear feedback I appreciated it all. Admittedly it is better if they can give more detail but even a "you're f*ing program sucks" was useful, although not immediately. If nothing else it gives you a count of positives and negatives.

Just wanted to add some of the behavior may be do to not understanding the behind the scenes so there may be misunderstandings and miscommunications. Not everyone coming here is deep into it and are just readers. that happened to find manga that they want to read. I only have a vague idea. Why scantilate? Money? Learning English? Hobby? ...

 

[Hounder]

@Nick_Asano You forgot one (Tower of God comment): Rachel needs to die.

 

[Nick_Asano]

@Hounder I don't see that as a bad thing, but I wish they'd do something with her character. She's a gargantuan loose end. It's like if Aiko never reappeared in Goodnight Punpun or if there was no final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in The Deathly Hallows.