S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Ch. 2.1

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I can understand them "accidentally" send Hyce to the Black Dragon. They didn't knew the dragon were there.

What i don't understand is C.
2 whole years? No apologize at all?
The other party member not apologizing is ehh whatever but Sasha?

That's not how you treat your childhood friend that you supposedly kick out of the party to keep him alive.
I would suggest you either read the novel(it's untranslated but google translate does a decent job) or wait for the other chapters of the manga, since it's going to be a slight spoiler.

But here I go:
Sasha's party had to leave for a quest whilst Hyce was unconscious(she couldn't wait because it was not certain when Hyce would wake up), after that both her party's schedules and that of Hyce (who started focusing on soloing quests) didn't allow her to meet him, at least not in conditions she deemed "correct" for her apology, and thus the two years passed
 
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The MC is edgy for no reason...
dude being constantly told by his party member that he is the weakest link, kicked out, then indirectly put him in harms way while ignoring MC for the majority of their life struggling like a beggar. That shit's gonna gnaw on anyone.
 
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I can understand them "accidentally" send Hyce to the Black Dragon. They didn't knew the dragon were there.

What i don't understand is C.
2 whole years? No apologize at all?
The other party member not apologizing is ehh whatever but Sasha?

That's not how you treat your childhood friend that you supposedly kick out of the party to keep him alive.
that'll all be tackled in future arc
 
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There's nothing to gain from him being killed after getting booted from the party. It doesn't harm their reputation he is alive, everyone thought he was dead weight at that point. He certainly had no way to threaten them physically or other wise. It's either a net 0 or a loss if they were caught.
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A possible reason to get him killed (since he wouldn't leave on his own) was that he was a constant reminder to everyone of something bad about Sasha and her party, damaging their reputation. Once he disappeared, one way or another, the talk would die out and everyone would forget about him.
 
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Agree to disagree. I just think this is a poor start to the story.
Probably beating a dead horse at this point, addressing a week-old talk, but I wanted to comment specifically on this. Probably contains spoiler content, so I will spoil it despite ppl following this probably already spoiled.


The huge timeskip and the abnormal circumstances the character went through (2-years of no apology) is not exactly a good start to a story. It left a giant gaping plothole, yea, and the reasoning used to fill the hole is a simplistic handwaving. Missed opportunity.

However, the premise of the story is not about growth and revenge (growth as in getting more powerful guns and becoming quadruple quntiple S-rated adventurer), but more about how to reconcile with the feelings once you have the power to do exactly that revenge. It's not about revenge-driven growth, but about accepting the truth and what to do moving forward. There're differences to both premises, as one would center on this increase of tension as we slowly reaching the power and climax to the revenge while the other is more character-centric and the development of their relationship.


So, it is a poor start of a story, but I don't think it is a poor start of this story. It can be handled better, by elaborating and adding depths to what Sacred did during the timeskip instead of "Sasha went on questing" and Sasha being scaredy cat facing the consequences of her own action: banishing and nearly-killing Hyce.
 
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Probably beating a dead horse at this point, addressing a week-old talk, but I wanted to comment specifically on this. Probably contains spoiler content, so I will spoil it despite ppl following this probably already spoiled.


The huge timeskip and the abnormal circumstances the character went through (2-years of no apology) is not exactly a good start to a story. It left a giant gaping plothole, yea, and the reasoning used to fill the hole is a simplistic handwaving. Missed opportunity.

However, the premise of the story is not about growth and revenge (growth as in getting more powerful guns and becoming quadruple quntiple S-rated adventurer), but more about how to reconcile with the feelings once you have the power to do exactly that revenge. It's not about revenge-driven growth, but about accepting the truth and what to do moving forward. There're differences to both premises, as one would center on this increase of tension as we slowly reaching the power and climax to the revenge while the other is more character-centric and the development of their relationship.


So, it is a poor start of a story, but I don't think it is a poor start of this story. It can be handled better, by elaborating and adding depths to what Sacred did during the timeskip instead of "Sasha went on questing" and Sasha being scaredy cat facing the consequences of her own action: banishing and nearly-killing Hyce.


You more or less articulated what bothered me, if the story turns out to be a character study rather than a revenge power fantasy (which can be enjoyable too), then I’ll be satisfied enough to ignore the rough edges.
 
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There are quite some rough edges as I read the WN. One of those sappy sloppy generic manga rough edges 😔
But for the rare moments where the story actually show character growth, it really hits hard. They don't hold back.

And for them, I'm willing to keep reading on. Granted, I can just glance and skip those generic part because I still have 20 more chapters to go :kek:
 
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I had the biggest belly laugh when I saw that first page. Like, come on, the eyepatch and the black coat, that has to be intentionally funny. I can't imagine anyone was expected to take this character seriously.
 
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I don't know if I should be glad or not that they skipped the two years of "Woah, did you see what he did!?" I guess we get to skip to what the author wants to cover, which will hopefully be more interesting than the popular black horse trope.
 
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It seems interesting, but such a weird setup.
The story could start from here and then spread out the first chapter (1.1, 1.2, 1.3) across future chapters with much more fleshed-out buildup..
 
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"You could get some great materials if you kill them more cleanly, you know"
"With my blessing... you know that's impossible"

Based on the picture of the swiss cheese monsters I'd assume he has more than just explosives, yeah? Pretty sure there'd be plenty of materials you could still harvest from a body if you just kept it to clean shots to the head or the heart, something I'd expect an S-Rank adventurer with a "Master" blessing to be capable of. I'd especially expect him to take advantage of sneak attacks and sniping since he's so fixated on going solo for every mission.

It feels like this chapter is supposed to show off how cool and powerful he's gotten (while still not getting over his trust issues), but to me it just makes him look like an idiot.
 
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"You could get some great materials if you kill them more cleanly, you know"
"With my blessing... you know that's impossible"

Based on the picture of the swiss cheese monsters I'd assume he has more than just explosives, yeah? Pretty sure there'd be plenty of materials you could still harvest from a body if you just kept it to clean shots to the head or the heart, something I'd expect an S-Rank adventurer with a "Master" blessing to be capable of. I'd especially expect him to take advantage of sneak attacks and sniping since he's so fixated on going solo for every mission.

It feels like this chapter is supposed to show off how cool and powerful he's gotten (while still not getting over his trust issues), but to me it just makes him look like an idiot.
From what I understand he has translated/decoded/unlocked much of the book yet.
 
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From what I understand he has translated/decoded/unlocked much of the book yet.
Probably, but based on the fact that the monsters are swiss cheese and not a pile of guts I assume he's managed to find something other than just the grenade launcher at some point across the 2 year timeskip - something capable of punching those holes. Even if it's a really powerful and unwieldy weapon like a rail cannon I'd still expect a "Master" to be capable of aiming for vital points instead of just spraying and praying like it seems he's doing.
 
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that was cringe as fk, he lost his trust in his childhood friend based on his own shitty judgement that she tried to get him killed lol, does she need to do that if he was useless? it's fair for him to assume that but then to dismiss what everyone else says is hella dumb, not only that he became an edgelord
 
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"I can't kill them cleaner" because I only know how to use the thumper apparently and didn't bother to read the book of weapons that could totally let me kill them cleaner
 

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