S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Ch. 2.3

[jagfanbb]

I don't think he really listened to her and I don't think she really thought about what he went through. They are both social fuck ups but damn leaving the next morning after almost getting him killed? I must apologize. I was unfamiliar with your idiocy game.

 

[Kingdo]

Aren’t the last two because she got gaslight by her team members in attempt to make her feel better trying to shift the blame off her? I don’t remember who but I’m almost positive those aren’t Sasha original thoughts. Or am I wrong on that?

I think first one was either tycoon and robin

And the second was because of Reynolds?

Well, that doesn't change anything for me. She lacks the empathy to put herself in his shoes.
Even if she truly believes that she kick him for his own good, she should have known that she play "the bad guy" in his eye and the implication for their relationship. She should simply acknowledge and swallow that bitter truth.

Instead, she backtracks because she doesn't want to let him go. She sends contradicting signals, doesn't seem to grasp that she is the reason their friendship is lost, while deep down thinking he will come back when his tantrum (being a solo adventurer) is done.

Frankly, others party member putting their nose into it as little to no importance, their relationship would have collapsed without them, simply not so fast.
It's like a business, sure if the owner was scammed into bankruptcy it can be the scammer fault, but if the owner was good in his job to begin with, he could have recognized the scam. Rather, who know if the business wasn't already sinking and the scammer only finish it.

 

[KazeFenrir]

Thanks for the TL.

I get why the MC is still bitter, because he has a point. If they only thought of his well being and that's why they banished him, then why not apologize and convince him in joining their party back to make their dream a reality? Apologizing now is worthless, it's only to appease themselves because they feel guilty, which doesn't do anything to the affected party.

I mean.. He doesn't have a point though.
They explained why they kicked him from the start. I understand this is manga and they're going to try to pretend like he has a valid reason for being upset, but he doesn't.
He's just being a bitter douche bag. He was literally useless to them and endangering himself and them by being dragged along. Could they have done it better? Sure.
That said, they STILL were looking out for him. Then the literal first thing he does when he gets back is accuse them of trying to kill him.
Like REALLY think about that for a moment. He's calling them MURDERERS and liars. You think he's going to be willing to rejoin the team after all that?
If he can't accept an apology 2 years later and move on then there's no timing that would've made it right.
Reconciliation begins when two people want it, not just because one apologizes, and he clearly wants to lead an incel life.

 

[Kingdo]

I mean.. He doesn't have a point though.
They explained why they kicked him from the start. I understand this is manga and they're going to try to pretend like he has a valid reason for being upset, but he doesn't.
He's just being a bitter douche bag. He was literally useless to them and endangering himself and them by being dragged along. Could they have done it better? Sure.
That said, they STILL were looking out for him. Then the literal first thing he does when he gets back is accuse them of trying to kill him.
Like REALLY think about that for a moment. He's calling them MURDERERS and liars. You think he's going to be willing to rejoin the team after all that?
If he can't accept an apology 2 years later and move on then there's no timing that would've made it right.
Reconciliation begins when two people want it, not just because one apologizes, and he clearly wants to lead an incel life.

That a weird stance, they both have a point. They both did mistake, but the only victim is MC.

They explained why they kicked him from the start. I understand this is manga and they're going to try to pretend like he has a valid reason for being upset, but he doesn't.

Tell a friend he is a dead weight to you, and to get out. But apparently it's not an enough reason to be upset.

He's just being a bitter douche bag. He was literally useless to them and endangering himself and them by being dragged along. Could they have done it better? Sure.

Yes, he is bitter, that's to be expected. When there is a problem you talk about it, try solution and eventually end it. You don't silently endure until you had enough and dump him without notice.

That said, they STILL were looking out for him. Then the literal first thing he does when he gets back is accuse them of trying to kill him.

They did want to look out for him, they send him to a dangerous place based on incomplete information that almost kill him and left him permanently disabled.
MC almost die because of Sasha negligence, while she didn't get any for of punishment except her own guilt.

Like REALLY think about that for a moment. He's calling them MURDERERS and liars. You think he's going to be willing to rejoin the team after all that?

I agree, but on the other hand, they ditch him when he was weak, almost kill him while trying to help and somehow believe he will come back now that he is strong. That seem F up to me.

If he can't accept an apology 2 years later and move on then there's no timing that would've made it right.

There is definitely a difference between an apology given right after fault than years later when he has enough value to wants something from him.

 

[suddenshow]

2 years and she still didn't apologize....no wonder he won't forgive her. Also I REALLY want him use other weapons than just guns https://images.app.goo.gl/53YXGq8xn6kA6bsv8

I have nothing but my sorrow...
And I want nothing more.
It has been, it still is, faithful to me.

Why should I begrudge it, since during the hours...
When my soul crushed the depths of my heart,
It was seated there beside me?

O sorrow, I have ended, you see, by respecting you,
Because I am certain you will never leave me.
Ah! I realize it: Your beauty lies in the force of your being.

You are like those who never left
The sad fireside corner of my poor black heart.

O my sorrow, you are better than a well-beloved: Because I know that on the day of my final agony,
You will be there, lying in my sheets, O sorrow,
So that you might once again attempt to enter my heart.

 

[Grikath]

Nope... MC is still acting like the huffy emo teen he is...

 

[iririuuu]

i can't even have a concrete opinion about this because the author just did a 2 year time skip with little to no context in it, yeah i guess that this was a bad decision to start a new story because those 2 chapter would make me drop if i didn't read spoiler about what is going to happen

 

[Rafalga]

and he clearly wants to lead an incel life.

Term completely lost its meaning at this point. What a bunch of drivel.

 

[JethroBodine]

Hyce: "I'll never throw away the weak!"

Also Hyce: "Ewww, weak princess. No you can't come with me."

 

[Rezael]

Spoiler

the in fact, tycoon and robin are of those that are even in sasha own clan that goes "if we didn't expel hyce, he probably could've his blessing activated like how we teach these new adventurers in our clan", he's in agreement that he didn't have the time to do it at the time but at least he knew it wasn't the best option they choose

was curious to know is this just a general feeling or is there a actual discussion about this during a arc if so could you tell me when?

 

[residentFATBOY]

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[Mmat97]

I like how he's less upset due to misunderstandings and more about that fact about her words in combination with how she hardly communicated with him properly, likely putting her all into becoming stronger and hyperfocusing even more to make it up to him

It requires both of them to actually go throuhg character development rather than magically solving the problem like "oh the party is evil" or "oh it was all just a misunderstanding"

 

[tydog20]

Mc is based af, two you years and she didnt even try? AND she dipped the day he passed out in the guild? Nah hes right fuck her.

 

[Faint15]

What other solution is there? They're in a party where their lives are constantly at stake. You don't always have the luxury of settling these kinds of disputes with a clean resolution where everyone comes out content. A single slip up can be enough justification to kick someone to the curb because that's all it takes to get someone killed. His "notice" should have been him repeatedly putting his entire team in danger by needing to be bailed out. He brought no value to his team and was only a detriment to everyone else around him. That's not fair to the others he's partied with. Him being in the team to begin with was likely wholly because of his connection with Sasha.

It's the MC's negligence for not double-checking the information. All she did was drop a tip. You should never wholeheartedly trust information as an adventurer, no matter who it comes from. It's you're own due diligence to make sure any information you're keyed in on is reliable because it's your ass that's on the line. You can't expect people to baby you in this line of work. People here need to read Yajin Tensei. Should she have apologized for giving unreliable information? Sure, but to say it was her negligence that nearly got the MC killed is incorrect. He's an adventurer. It's literally his job to stick his neck out, so he should be wary in any situation and tread carefully.

I do agree that him being upset is justified. It's entirely his prerogative to feel any sort of way for any reason under the sun. To hold something like a party kick—which was entirely due to your own weakness at the time—over others for 2 years is extremely petty though.

The solution was and should have always been "Here, we know you have a high ranking ability, let's help you figure out what it is but in the meantime, we can't bring you out on potentially dangerous quests. Let's use that time for more research so that you can join us soon". What did they do instead? They took advantage of his willingness to be even remotely helpful and used him as a pack-mule as well as the only one to do all the mundane tasks without even giving him proper rest and attention.

Spoiler: What did they give him in return?

He was given verbal and mental abuse daily until they decided to kick him. The clincher is that Sasha's team later started recruiting adventurers with lower rankings than Hyce so they can be trained and get stronger. Imagine the slap in the face that is. They can be bothered train random adventurers but not a friend/childhood friend that they had on the team for a long time.

Yes, let's blame the MC for failing to check information that ultimately came from the only person he still trusted despite her abuse towards him. Everything that happened to Hyce was in fact Sasha's fault despite her well thought intentions. Hyce is the sole victim out of this

 

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[Faint15]

It was a tip that came in passing. Trust or not, his job requires him being vigilant, especially with information. It is absolutely his due diligence to not blindly put faith in others' information. Because, like in this case, even if they have good intentions, they could also have the wrong information.

That's just victim blaming. She gave him that "tip in passing" to help him. In his eyes that was the last ray of hope that she truly cared for him and that all those rumors were wrong. If she was actually smart she would have confirmed it with the guild prior to telling Hyce but she didn't. As we have seen, every decision she has made regarding Hyce were not thought out and effectively ruined his life.

But yeah, you're right. He learned his lesson. If he can't even trust someone who was extremely close to him then he can never trust anybody.

 

[residentFATBOY]

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[Faint15]

Doesn't bearing the financial burden of unilaterally supporting him in his research seem unfair, especially if it doesn't come to fruition?

Not when the sole purpose of helping him would be to achieve their dream together. What's unfair was his treatment throughout all of this.