Sasha-chan to Classmate Otaku-kun - Vol. 2 Ch. 30.5 - A Chance Encounter

[ventisca]

This won't turn into Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki right?

 

[imilkmommies]

😢

 

[Dingo777]

This won't turn into Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki right?

No that’s actually a pretty apt comparison

 

[ventisca]

No that’s actually a pretty apt comparison

God why

 

[UlysUlysUlys]

Yo, anyone who knows the raws, can you answer one question for me? Did she get her experience from being a Junior Idol? Honestly might be make or break for me. It's one thing for it to be of her own volition, one that she actively seeked out, but it's another for it to be because of a job.

There's a degree of implication, y'know? Of this happening to other girls, other children, who might not like it as much as she did, and that'd just stay in my mind. It ruins the comedic aspect of it, of why she's so sexual, and just... implies so many bad things. I'm only asking, because in the hentai, they keep referring to it and I just... man, I don't want it to be the canonical reason.

 

[eviljackspicer]

People commenting on this manga to gripe and whine because it's not vanilla are pathetic and hilarious at the same time. Holy hell, some of you people are so disgustingly sensitive. How do you function while reading anything fictional if just these themes are enough to ick you out?

Maybe some media just isn't for you? Have you considered respectfully bowing out and saying to yourself: "Ah, nah, this isn't what I wanted from the story," and leaving it at that?

No, lmao, you'd rather come post in the comments every chapter about how [fictional thing] is reprehensible and bad, clutch your pearls as hard as you can, and get down on your hands and knees and try to convince everybody else that you're a better person than them because the made up story made you feel yucky.

Insufferable.

Okay, the next time you visit a restaurant where you are thoroughly enjoying a meal and right in the middle of it, the chef comes out slaps you in the face and replaces your meal with a trough with pig slop, you are expected to respectfully bow out and leave if you don't like it. You can't complain.

 

[TheWisestofWolfies]

Speaking from experience, being sexually active in middle school can have its problems, but as long as you have a good support structure and parents you can rely on it shouldn't be a problem in the future. In my case Ive become incapable of telling the difference between sexual and romantic attraction so I'm extra on guard in my late 20s afraid nothing is genuine. This could be a result of that or because Im autistic, not really sure. Sasha doesn't appear to have this problem so I think they'll be fine.

 

[Baylordkin]

Wait people thought this was vanilla? Lmao

 

[Dingo777]

Wait people thought this was vanilla? Lmao

I mean, yeah. If you don’t go out of your way to read the doujin then up to this point it’s been incredibly vanilla. Like 70% wholesome 30% horny

 

[Akurogi]

Directly to read the sempai doujins siuuu

 

[Notgeti]

Okay, the next time you visit a restaurant where you are thoroughly enjoying a meal and right in the middle of it, the chef comes out slaps you in the face and replaces your meal with a trough with pig slop, you are expected to respectfully bow out and leave if you don't like it. You can't complain.

Except this is a terrible analogy because this was never going to be a vanilla story.

I don't go to the sushi joint and get vocally mad when they serve me raw fish.

Do I understand how someone could have come to that conclusion? Sure. But I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them, and I think it's pretty dumb and lame for them to gripe about it on a public forum in a self-serving moral-high-ground circle jerk.

 

[Dingo777]

Except this is a terrible analogy because this was never going to be a vanilla story.

I don't go to the sushi joint and get vocally mad when they serve me raw fish.

Do I understand how someone could have come to that conclusion? Sure. But I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them, and I think it's pretty dumb and lame for them to gripe about it.

I mean, just taking the manga into account, yes it’s been very vanilla, if a touch horny, for 30 chapters to this point.

 

[Notgeti]

I mean, just taking the manga into account, yes it’s been very vanilla, if a touch horny, for 30 chapters to this point.

Which is why I said that I could see how someone might assume that, but that doesn't mean they were correct to do so. Is it really so hard to check authors? Do a little research?

I guess, man. I guess it really is. It's a lot easier to be angry than it is to be informed.

 

[Dingo777]

Which is why I said that I could see how someone might assume that, but that doesn't mean they were correct to do so. Is it really so hard to check authors? Do a little research?

I guess, man. I guess it really is. It's a lot easier to be angry than it is to be informed.

In fairness it’s generally inadvisable to assume just because the author has done porn of their character that they’d suddenly do such a dramatic shift in their serialized work 30 chapters in. I mean shoot plenty of authors have made the jump from hentai artists to normal mangaka so the assumption that you’d have to read the author’s doujin to see it coming feels disingenuous.

I’m not saying that with some serious digging someone couldn’t see it coming, but I also don’t think you should have to scour an authors back catalog or their personal twitter just to avoid a volume 3 retcon and character overhaul.

 

[Notgeti]

In fairness it’s generally inadvisable to assume just because the author has done porn of their character that they’d suddenly do such a dramatic shift in their serialized work 30 chapters in. I mean shoot plenty of authors have made the jump from hentai artists to normal mangaka so the assumption that you’d have to read the author’s doujin to see it coming feels disingenuous.

I’m not saying that with some serious digging someone couldn’t see it coming, but I also don’t think you should have to scour an authors back catalog or their personal twitter just to avoid a volume 3 retcon and character overhaul.

Nah, you're right, that's not something that should be required. I don't think it would take "serious digging," but y'know, I get it.

But does getting caught off guard by it warrant all the outward vitriol? I just can't understand how anyone could muster the energy to even care that much. It baffles me how easily put-off people can be, especially on this site, double especially on a loli manga centered heavily around erotic themes. How does anyone who's willingly reading something like this turn around and get mad about... anything?

 

[Dingo777]

Nah, you're right, that's not something that should be required. I don't think it would take "serious digging," but y'know, I get it.

But does getting caught off guard by it warrant all the outward vitriol? I just can't understand how anyone could muster the energy to even care that much. It baffles me how easily put-off people can be, especially on this site, double especially on a loli manga centered heavily around erotic themes. How does anyone who's willingly reading something like this turn around and get mad about... anything?

Spoiler: Spoilers for long winded explaination

Some folks just want a cute, wholesome, if Lewd, rom com to help destress and they can feel betrayed when the tone suddenly switches. Especially to the subject matter which is does, which is VERY extreme. If it was done like chapter 3 or something that’s one thing, that’s a reasonable amount of time to reveal that “hey, this manga is not what you thought it was going to be. Get out now while you’re not invested”. Doing it so late, so suddenly, and so ham-fistedly makes everything you’ve read up to that point feel like a total waste of both your time and the potential the story had.

A middle schooler having sex with another middle schooler is objectively problematic but also pretty understandable and for many people even relatable. A middle schooler having an intense interest in porn and is problematic but pretty understandable and relatable.


A middle schooler having a list of older sex friends and being implied to have been sexually exploited as a child model

is intensely problematic, extremely troubling and the kind of thing you’d build a dedicated drama around with clear flags and indicators early on because that fucks a person up for life. To suddenly drop something that viscerally troubling 3 volumes deep into what to that point has been a relatively wholesome romcom and to handle it without a shred of nuance and at the expense of characters you’re expected to emotionally invest in just feels vindictive and frankly cruel.

Like you’re not going to be angry at people for enjoying it, but you’re definitely going to be angry and frustrated at the author, as well as people laughing off your frustration as childishness or foolishness. Add in a little outside stress and the cyclical escalation of people arguing on the internet and it’s a recipe for text-based screaming matches.

And I have been in my share of them, several for this very story. And yeah chalk it up to saltiness or naïveté that the story didn’t go in the direction I thought it would but when something bills itself one way for 30 chapters and suddenly takes a sharp turn in such a direction there’s going to some resentment. Humans are first and foremost emotional creatures.

TL;DR: Betrayed expeditions after a long emotional investment period, coupled with general internet douchery is a recipe for flame wars.

 

[RiffRaffROTFL]

I don’t know, but it feels pretty dishonest on the author’s part to only include Chapter 0 at the end of Volume 2, especially after more than 30 chapters have already been published. The issue isn’t that Sasha isn’t a virgin; it’s that the author misleads readers into expecting a seemingly weird yet wholesome character, only to later introduce a revelation that retroactively alters her nature. Chapter 0 should have been included in Volume 1 from the start.

I agree. I really don't have a problem with FMCs having a sexual history but the charm of her character was a wholesome-seeming curiosity about sexuality. If she's heavily sexually active, her reactions to various types of ero-manga doesn't really make sense.

One gets the impression that the mangaka holding back Chapter 0 until this point was intended to basically NTR the audience. Not cool.

 

[eviljackspicer]

Except this is a terrible analogy because this was never going to be a vanilla story.

I don't go to the sushi joint and get vocally mad when they serve me raw fish.

Do I understand how someone could have come to that conclusion? Sure. But I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them, and I think it's pretty dumb and lame for them to gripe about it on a public forum in a self-serving moral-high-ground circle jerk.

It's all about tonal consistency.
If the manga started with them just talking/joking about sex, that's fine.
If the manga started with the girl being very sexual active, that's fine.

If the girl was just joking and then revealed she is the town bicycle, we are going basically 0-100. No go.

I mean, we could have had a story where she lies about being very sexually active to get closer to this boy due to his interest in drawing hentai, but then reveals that she's not, (just interested in talking about the subject and to him specifically), we are talking about a 100 to 0, which is still a major switch, but not as bad as the reverse.

But what we are being given is a girl who is just talking/joking about sex to her being every guy's friday night squeeze. Again, not an issue with "purity". Just with consistency of the story, and specifically the reader's perspective of Sasha.
Sasha v1-2: nice girl who is curious about act of procreating/interested in MC,
Sasha v3 ->: Treats act of sex flippantly and divorces idea that it's often tied with love/intimacy. So she can just bend over for any guy, but keep the MC at arms length. So MC is just chasing someone who could just drop him at a moments notice just to feel good.

We've gone from girl who "could" be good for him in the future to her being a massive walking red flag. This is going to be fret with drama in a manga that's been fairly lighthearted and comedic in nature. Trying to make this "lighthearted and comedic" is going to be jarring/immersion breaking.

 

[White_cloud]

LET THE DESCENT BEGIN!!!!

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

I think people dont mind them being sexual with each other. But other than that - its totaly different story. This one needs some kind of warning.

It's a Sasha story by the Sasha creator. You get what's on the tin.