Sasha-chan to Classmate Otaku-kun - Vol. 3 Ch. 33 - Only Their Secret.

[kn4ll]

Reminder boys: in real life you can not fix them.

Friend I know and talked about earlier in the thread that was exploited as a minor has been in a 20 year relationship and has three kids (all of them girls). But I don't think it didn't have any detrimental effects on her. Wouldn't surprise me that one of the reasons she turned into a land whale was a result of that, though of course I can't be certain of that.

 

[Dingo777]

Loving someone because you love them as a person and looking past their past and their baggage is kind of wholesome.
The value of a person isn't who they've slept with or what they've done. If you're unable to look beyond them as an object like this, do you truly love them?

Still I think that girls (or people in general I guess) that looks at sex and love as two completely different things are kind of a red flag. You're somewhat going to struggle ever getting an emotional connection and closeness with them because they treat intimacy and love as two different things. While most people would consider love and intimacy to go hand in hand. I think this is the main reason why casual sex works for some people and not for others. It's kind of hard to be intimate with someone who acts like a prostitute when you have sex to put it in extreme.

That’s the reason open relationships rarely work, at the end of the day your options are:
One person values the relationship more and ends up with no power to defy their partner because it’s their one vote against ALLLLL the person’s other partner’s votes.
Or neither partner particularly values their relationship so the second stress appears it’s easier just to cut ties

 

[TheBlackGamer]

I totally disagree, the main draw of this is how cute and wholesome it can be while also being playfully degenerate. The problem seems to be that we have a revelation that isn't playful, rather it is unambiguous, but it still leads to the blossoming of love between two pubescent kids. The pain Fujiwara is going through is a plot device to allow him to change his relationship with Sasha; he is starting to realise that his feelings for her are of a different sort. The sort that feels jealousy, possessiveness, concern for her welfare and a desire to protect. He's in love but he doesn't know it yet. How is that not adorably wholesome?

Because Sasha being a slut changes that dynamic? Now it's not oh the virgin horny boy is trying to a be master to a clueless but horny girl. Now it's the virgin boy is trying to be a master to a slutty horny girl. Doesn't hit the same notes imo. It can for you but doesn't for me.


For the record I expected something like this because haguhagu is a degenerate and I don't expect a dude that draws hardcore lolicon could ever be wholesome. And honestly this is very tame by haguhagu standards.

Loving someone because you love them as a person and looking past their past and their baggage is kind of wholesome.
The value of a person isn't who they've slept with or what they've done. If you're unable to look beyond them as an object like this, do you truly love them?

This sounds like cope. Like there has to be a hard line of just saying no I'm not going to be with this person because of what they've done or whoever they slept with. If you thinking that not accepting someone of their mistakes (If they themselves even see it that way) is treating them like objects. Then I hope you're not a doormat. Or a tired old man.

 

[RinascimentoIT]

Guys, this is about to become a heavy NTR. Because it's one thing to have the decontextualized NTR oneshot, which the characters you don't even know and already annoy you anyway, but here the author has cooked it up big time. When the MC catches Sasha having sex with her BF, it's going to be a hard blow.

To quote the legendary Gandalf, "Fly, you fools!" ç_ç

 

[swimminginsand]

Someone save senpai this sexual predator only wants him for his body.

 

[Budhaa]

Is this the "can I fix her"-Route? :'D
The problem is as long as there is no Erotic Tag I think he's not jump in, but I would really much appreciate it bc she deserves better or maybe like an separate 18+ story line. ^^

 

[balenol]

I think the author wants to put the sexuality of an adult into Sasha. She really did sound like an active teenager-middle aged woman. Which sounds disgusting to say the least, but thank fuck its manga not real life, so go nuts.

That's why most of us can't relate to Sasha's perspective. Because we aren't enough of a slut to understand.

 

[kn4ll]

Because Sasha being a slut changes that dynamic? Now it's not oh the virgin horny boy is trying to a be master to a clueless but horny girl. Now it's the virgin boy is trying to be a master to a slutty horny girl. Doesn't hit the same notes imo. It can for you but doesn't for me.


For the record I expected something like this because haguhagu is a degenerate and I don't expect a dude that draws hardcore lolicon could ever be wholesome. And honestly this is very tame by haguhagu standards.


This sounds like cope. Like there has to be a hard line of just saying no I'm not going to be with this person because of what they've done or whoever they slept with. If you thinking that not accepting someone of their mistakes (If they themselves even see it that way) is treating them like objects. Then I hope you're not a doormat. Or a tired old man.

I think that if that's the issue, it probably has more to do with your insecurity than her past.

 

[balenol]

And now we wait for the comments!

Spoiler

NGL, as someone who's been a fan of Sasha for 10+ years, and has even met Haguhagu IRL once (Though my favorite work of his is the Bosako SFW artwork series; I love Bosako 1 so much I even have an extra STILL sealed copy), the reactions to these chapters have been super entertaining.

And that's after I started warning people over a year ago and was one of the first to post about what happened in Vol. 3, with others eventually adding warnings to almost every chapter thread. So I never thought Sasha would get such a strong reaction from the Western fandom.

Holy fuck you've met him? Is he the fat bastard that I always thought him as?

 

[shinshom]

I think the author wants to put the sexuality of an adult into Sasha. She really did sound like an active teenager-middle aged woman. Which sounds disgusting to say the least, but thank fuck its manga not real life, so go nuts.

That's why most of us can't relate to Sasha's perspective. Because we aren't enough of a slut to understand.

ye it was cute when it was the oblivious aspect and like... seeing those sexual content but interpreting like its the most alien thing... but now... oh boy....

 

[Rowdy91]

Idiots calling this NTR when she was already having sex before she knew him and then she even says she hasn't been doing it lately.
i.e. She hasn't been having sex since she became his disciple.

 

[TheBlackGamer]

I think that if that's the issue, it probably has more to do with your insecurity than her past.

And there it is. I'm insecure because I have standards. That door must taste delicious huh.

 

[semon_demon]

And there it is. I'm insecure because I have standards. That door must taste delicious huh.

you are the worlds most insecure man

 

[Dingo777]

I think that if that's the issue, it probably has more to do with your insecurity than her past.

“I’ve had sex” and “I have a sex friend” say entirely different things about a person, in their morals and their approach to relationships. Having multiple says even more. It’s definitely not a character flaw to avoid people who’s morals and views on intimacy and love do not align with your own

 

[crono]

I stood around cause I thought the author was going for the "shes not a pure virgin girl!!!!!!" trope which was already problematic (since shes 12), but was still somewhat fun cause you could see incels fuming over it every chapter.


The things I have read since the reveal though, about Sasha having sex with lots of grown up men are way way beyond what I was expecting, this shit is disturbing considering it is a middle schooler. I will keep my sanity and drop this thing

 

[favine]

I knew the characters history, I knew about the fanbox, I even seen some spoilers... But man... Welp let's see where the story goes.

 

[Nerevar2]

Idiots calling this NTR when she was already having sex before she knew him and then she even says she hasn't been doing it lately.
i.e. She hasn't been having sex since she became his disciple.

I think people sayng that its going to be netorare. And btw, thats the only way to contain addiction - stay away from whatever you addicted to. If she`ll decide to stop fking everything that moves, despite not having a boyfrend, and just wait for him - that woluld be fine, and a lot of people will return onboard. And this is the only way to healthy relationships. You cant fix other people, they need to fix themselves. But i highly doubt that that will be the case. Not with this author.

 

[kyewby]

If feel like if he did become her boyfriend now, and she was actually trustworthy, this could turn pretty vanilla, as much as a story with such a theme and characters can, but why would the author choose such a path?

If there's one thing I've learned from interacting with people who sleep around that easily throughout my life, it's that they're almost never trustworthy in that way lol. But then this is manga, so who fuckin knows.

Then again, thinking about who the author is we probably very much know.

 

[gronkle]

Because Sasha being a slut changes that dynamic? Now it's not oh the virgin horny boy is trying to a be master to a clueless but horny girl. Now it's the virgin boy is trying to be a master to a slutty horny girl. Doesn't hit the same notes imo. It can for you but doesn't for me.

It hits different notes, for sure. Now he has to come to terms with how he feels and the fact that the person he thought was the disciple was really the master. I think it's a pretty smart development, and echoes themes in a few of his Sasha doujins.

For the record I expected something like this because haguhagu is a degenerate and I don't expect a dude that draws hardcore lolicon could ever be wholesome. And honestly this is very tame by haguhagu standards.

Haguhagu's a good writer tbh, even his erotic art has pathos and subtextual themes, plays with comedy and juxtaposes it with seriousness. Been a fan for years now.

 

[kn4ll]

“I’ve had sex” and “I have a sex friend” say entirely different things about a person, in their morals and their approach to relationships. Having multiple says even more. It’s definitely not a character flaw to avoid people who’s morals and views on intimacy and love do not align with your own

I was talking about not being in a relationship with a girl because of her past, not being sex friends. Like I wrote in an earlier post, casual sex isn't really my thing because I think it's an false dichotomy between love and intimacy. I probably couldn't handle that, because it would just feel wrong to me.
I wouldn't be in a open relationship and I'd be reluctant to have casual sex, but I don't think I'd lose interest in a girl because she'd have a promiscious past. Though of course if a girl had a promiscious past, there's a big chance she'd look at romance and sex as two different things that would be hard for me to handle.