Seirei-tachi no Rakuen to Risou no Isekai Seikatsu - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[MangaDex]

 

[JordanFurneaux]

I won't judge the story yet, it's only been one chapter after all, far too early to make a judgement.
However I do have a complaint about the MC. Is he really 25 years old? He doesn't look or act like an adult, he seems to be the stereotypical Japanese protagonist who gets overly flustered over the slightest bit of contact with a woman, and he looks far too young for a 25 year old.

Edit: I read a couple chapters of the novel, the MC both looks and behaves more like an adult than in the manga so I suppose this was a decision made to appeal to a younger audience? Might continue with the novel.

 

[bakmiekuah]

isekai nonbiri vers.2

 

[Gotim18]

First, I think they meant 15 rather than 25. Second, who grabs a hammer to fight with when you have a halberd in your inventory?

 

[Aoitenshi]

3 chapter rule... gotta follow the 3 chapter rule....

 

[ultraleaf]

Smashing the ground with the hammer.... it looked more like he tripped and fell with the hammer's weight lmao?

 

[Kisato]

@bakmiekuah Do you agree when I say Nonbiri is probably better than this?

 

[Leo80221]

@Gotim18 The answer is simple, the lv1 noob.

 

[Operatix]

*starts*
Aha, hmm, yea
*At the end*
Oh, it's one of these Minecraft ones.

 

[Dezaki]

everything is good and fresh(dont take this seriously) until he suddenly got a bunch of totally cheat items without any exposition or anything... i just hope the story just focuses on slice of life and comedy since the plot already turned into trash

 

[GodGinrai]

Sylphy's personality is all over the place. :\

 

[siscon]

..... what
*silently follow though*

 

[Vasqueztion]

@GodGinrai
...
Like the wind itself?

 

[Aretheus]

It does make me very sad that the isekai that I like is simply not what gets written. Let's think for a second about what the core elements of isekai stories are. Protagonist dies or gets summoned to another world. That's the foundation that allows you to call something isekai right? Now, what is a core appeal of this base premise? There are a few. It can be interesting to see someone who struggles to live on Earth have a second chance at making something of themselves. It can be fun to watch someone completely out of their element, thrown into circumstances completely out of their control. It can also be interesting to see knowledge from Earth applied to another world.

But every single one of these points becomes moot if you make your protagonist overpowered. Death March could have been the story of how a normal programmer abuses the code of the game he developed (à la Kono Sekai ga Game). Instead, he just got infinite skill points, infinite levels, infinite money, etc so who cares what he does. He can't lose at anything anyways.

Nonbiri Nouka could have been the story of how a normal farmer applies agricultural techniques to live in a fantasy world (à la Isekai Kenkokuki). Instead, he has the omnipotent plot device of the gods so who cares what he does. He doesn't need to struggle to do absolutely anything. The passage of time, determination, failures, these are the things that make characters interesting to watch.

Magi Craft Master could have been the story of an apprentice crafter gradually grow into the role of his predecessor from humble beginnings. Instead, he just knows how to do everything almost instantly. Imagine if there were limits to his power at first. Like, he could barely make a screw without winding himself. Then, when we get to the end of the story, there would be some weight to the fact that he could make colossal death beam robots.

Naruto for instance, is an incredibly flawed franchise on almost every layer. But you know what actually got me? In the Boruto movie, where Naruto channels his chakra into his son and this monster rasengan comes out. Boruto then says something like, "What did he have to go through to get this far?" That line has so much impact because we, the viewer, know how much Naruto goes through on his journey.

All of this power-fantasy wank material lacks any sort of pacing that could result in a journey. There are exceptions of course, or I wouldn't be reading any isekai with hopes and expectations. But the good just get smothered while these juvenile stories are always the ones that get the most attention. And I find that very tragic.

 

[GodGinrai]

@Vasqueztion The wind may change direction, but it at least follows a set of consistent rules and can be predicted reliably. Her personality, however, is not like that at all.

 

[Seregosa]

Couldn't agree less with Aretheus. Everyone has different taste and just because someone is OP, it doesn't mean that the story is bad or it can't be just as good as a story with a mc that isn't. You just want to see your preferred crap and thus feels like everything that isn't part of it sucks. I've seen plenty of stories with OP mcs that are way better than most stories with non-OP mcs. In the end, even a low-rated "garbage" story can be awesome if it manages to connect with you, if you can relate and find things you like in it.

 

[eureur]

Lets see where this goes-

buts its already pretty obvious though.

 

[izayamikaelis]

when you're already excited you finally reached the land all otaku would love to go to but it turn out to be the land of the dead xD

also basically that world is... something like minecraft world lol

 

[SSS26032002]

Now that is something somewhat cliche.... but what is your skill called really?? ANd he's goint to construct the best of them all..

 

[CountryMage]

@JordanFurneaux the problem with this criticism is that most people thinking of "average 20-30s guy" are thinking about a Jason Bateman, or Brian Cranston, type of normal guy. When you should really be thinking of the baby faced whiner types, like Michael Cera, that you just can't believe are over 30, and can't picture doing anything seriously.