@Arcverson I just want to say, from a person who loves romance manga and anime... your statement on tsunderes is like spot on. I really don't like 90% of them. And they always keep fucking winning, somehow, when there's better girls. IMO, you need a damn good reason for a character to act the way that they are, or at the very least, the dere has to be worth the tsun. There's an inherent satisfaction to seeing a normally violet person show some affection, but most of the time, it's not worth it at all, man.