Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan: Noukou Giga - Vol. 13 Ch. 64 - Legitimacy

[Wildtale]

Once again, I'm reminded that history should be taken with a grain of salt. Even in this chapter, we are given reason to question what really happened - and I doubt the events of this battle will be clarified down the line.

The last page is fab.

 

[Grye]

Someone correct me but isn't interval training dangerous/hard to get payoffs from?

 

[Grimmycoffee]

i have to say, the mangaka's usage of mirroring is pretty obvious now with the character art, especially the faces, and it's kinda distracting noticing it over and over again when reading

What do you mean by obvious mirroring?

 

[vannn]

What do you mean by obvious mirroring?

Art program feature, copies the lines you’re drawing on the other side of an axis. Like a mirror. Handy for when you want to get something symmetrical like faces and figures.

As someone who draws, it’s not so bad and it’s use is understandable on a deadline.

 

[ixsaz]

This is my first time reading about the monk's corruption. But then I only read about this event from various mangas... So I my sources are not the most detailed.

Nobunaga's Chef is also another time travel that talks about the corruption of the monks.

 

[fasontales]

That newspaper is so cool, all of the little news blurbs denoted by their relevant clan's seal.

 

[Panino]

Hum.... HUUUUMMM....

 

[xyzzy]

Once again, I'm reminded that history should be taken with a grain of salt. Even in this chapter, we are given reason to question what really happened - and I doubt the events of this battle will be clarified down the line.

The last page is fab.

I’m reminded of the one chapter where Shizuko says that history is written by the victors, and that they will paint you as the bad guy… while the Hiroshima nuclear explosion is shown behind her.

But the thing is that we’ve seen what Japan did in World War II, not only to the US but to places like China and Korea. There are firsthand accounts of that. And Shizuko is acting as if they’re the victims in this whole event.

So I can’t figure out whether the author realizes this and is going “always have a little bit of skepticism with what you follow” or is going “always take everything you read with a grain of salt… unless it’s from me JAPAN FOREVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAA”

 

[RudoRonuma]

Pog

Surveying mentioned

 

[harne_sudutt11]

So without the initial justification for alliance against Oda, has history changed enough that he’ll actually have a chance to unite Japan?

Fingers crossed

I’m reminded of the one chapter where Shizuko says that history is written by the victors, and that they will paint you as the bad guy… while the Hiroshima nuclear explosion is shown behind her.

But the thing is that we’ve seen what Japan did in World War II, not only to the US but to places like China and Korea. There are firsthand accounts of that. And Shizuko is acting as if they’re the victims in this whole event.

So I can’t figure out whether the author realizes this and is going “always have a little bit of skepticism with what you follow” or is going “always take everything you read with a grain of salt… unless it’s from me JAPAN FOREVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAA”

Look, America granted immunity to member of "that" unit, in return for their research and allowed them no-questions-asked. So, yeah, I'd go with "a pinch of salt". No country is good at all in times of war, none.

 

[Umesan]

I love how Nobunaga accepted the name of Demon King rather than explain or defend himself. He truly was a man who was centuries ahead of his time.

 

[Renan_Walheim]

So now Shizuko invented propaganda. Next step will be a japanese medieval MKUltra.

 

[Scrabbleman]

Corrupt monks: calls Nobunaga a demon to delegitimise him
Nobunaga: goes with it because it scares the shit out of his enemies

Based.

 

[Scrabbleman]

i have to say, the mangaka's usage of mirroring is pretty obvious now with the character art, especially the faces, and it's kinda distracting noticing it over and over again when reading

Huh, I just checked and I noticed there's a clear and very obvious decline in art style and quality if you look at the early chapters. Kinda a shame.

 

[InsaneAwesomeTony]

Thanks for the chapter 🙏🏼

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Spoiler: Literally the meme

 

[iseedrawnpeople]

Wonder if she will ever return to the future, and if so am assuming the time travel she is in has some sort of dimensional aspect. Even if it's just that once you use it you get removed from whatever dimension you were in so even if you change things that change the dimension all the knowledge you had of it is already preserved as is.

Forget the basic would her parents even have been born or met to begin with the changes she's made should result in a more technologically advanced future. Could have some functionality where you can make a change in the past btu since your mind is still connected to who you'd have been in the future you get upgraded information from the results of the changes.

 

[Seraphsent]

Doesn't this MASSIVELY alter history?? Like now Nobunaga's rule and commands seem far more legitimate which would stop one of the primary motivations behind his assassination.

I’m reminded of the one chapter where Shizuko says that history is written by the victors, and that they will paint you as the bad guy… while the Hiroshima nuclear explosion is shown behind her.

But the thing is that we’ve seen what Japan did in World War II, not only to the US but to places like China and Korea. There are firsthand accounts of that. And Shizuko is acting as if they’re the victims in this whole event.

So I can’t figure out whether the author realizes this and is going “always have a little bit of skepticism with what you follow” or is going “always take everything you read with a grain of salt… unless it’s from me JAPAN FOREVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAA”

The current understanding is that the nukes were an unnecessary display of power. Even if you do buy the idea that a single nuke was necessary to end the war quickly, the second was just the US trying to stroke its peen, and I say that as a US citizen myself.
The author is likely sympathetic to Japan, but the reality is that nobody was the good guy in WWII, it's just that one side was way the hell more bad.

 

[Ebbelille]

Art program feature, copies the lines you’re drawing on the other side of an axis. Like a mirror. Handy for when you want to get something symmetrical like faces and figures.

As someone who draws, it’s not so bad and it’s use is understandable on a deadline.

thing is,faces arent symmetrical. not perfectly as in mirroring anyway

 

[vannn]

thing is,faces arent symmetrical. not perfectly as in mirroring anyway

Generally speaking, but consistency matters, especially in comics and manga. Mirroring speeds up the workflow while getting reliable results.These aren’t portraits either, so in this case consistency + speed > mimesis.