Senpai ga Uzai Kouhai no Hanashi

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Do people actually like the third couple? I can't get behind it. If I'm generous with the ages, he is 17 and she is 23. That's already terrible. If I'm not being generous, the age gap is even more egregious. If you take into account the time that has passed in universe and when characters are introduced, this could be a 15-year-old getting flirted with by a 26-year-old!

Originally I thought they were going for a one-sided crush of a younger guy onto an older woman whose natural personality comes across as a big flirtatious, which I'm fine with. But the author seems to want to play it straight as she repeatedly teases him, flirts with him, and makes sexually suggestive jokes at him. It's just gross.
Yeah, that's what made me drop it ultimately
That, and the crushing lack of progress with the main
 
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Honestly if anything it seems to me like Natsumi maybe has an unrequited crush on Igarashi. Maybe the oneeshota plotline is actually just about two people whose current loves aren't gonna be reciprocated, and Natsumi just doesn't want to just say It's Not Gonna Happen Kid because she knows firsthand what it's like to know a person you love doesn't love you in the same way?
Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws trying to come up with an alternative reading because the oneeshota is the one thing keeping me from recommending this manga to my friends lol
Checking back in a year later just to say TOTALLY FUCKING CALLED IT
 
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Checking back in a year later just to say TOTALLY FUCKING CALLED IT

A bit confused with how you came to this conclusion. Natsumi's thing for Igarashi has been subtext for ages (her ring finger always had green nail polish) and Natsumi's character arc culminated with her realizing her pining doesn't consider Igarashi's feelings and would become a burden if she ever finds out.

In chapters 218-220 she realized that she's falling back into her bad habits (repressing feelings, smoking), and what snapped her out of it was when Yuuto called her phone. She threw away her cigarettes and there's an impact panel where it shows her nail polish isn't green anymore.

I don't think the author would actually depict her and Yuuto in a relationship at the moment (his age is very likely also a factor for her hesitance, aside from her attraction to Igarashi), but it's at least implied that after he's legal she's open to reciprocate, as creepy as that might sound.

Also IDK how many people notice this but Yuuto and Igarashi have the same base drawing mannequin. Igarashi has fangs and they have different hair but if you take away the clothes they're more or less the same character. Natsumi's a weirdo either way.
 
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A bit confused with how you came to this conclusion. Natsumi's thing for Igarashi has been subtext for ages (her ring finger always had green nail polish) and Natsumi's character arc culminated with her realizing her pining doesn't consider Igarashi's feelings and would become a burden if she ever finds out.

In chapters 218-220 she realized that she's falling back into her bad habits (repressing feelings, smoking), and what snapped her out of it was when Yuuto called her phone. She threw away her cigarettes and there's an impact panel where it shows her nail polish isn't green anymore.

I don't think the author would actually depict her and Yuuto in a relationship at the moment (his age is very likely also a factor for her hesitance, aside from her attraction to Igarashi), but it's at least implied that after he's legal she's open to reciprocate, as creepy as that might sound.

Also IDK how many people notice this but Yuuto and Igarashi have the same base drawing mannequin. Igarashi has fangs and they have different hair but if you take away the clothes they're more or less the same character. Natsumi's a weirdo either way.
You're addicted to copium if you really think the author isn't still writing weird subplot between the two. The author is a creepy dude who got lucky with catching the attention of people that like fluffy cute things and has been working on hentai revolving around the two girls while they were in school together. The entire premise of this romance was "big man on tiny woman" which can be done in a non-creepy way, but the author also regularly wrote that the character herself is also very childish in how she behaves and he still pairs her up with a giant dude who acts more like a father than a love interest because? They don't have similar interests, they barely talk outside of regular interactions between coworkers, and honestly its super tone-deaf to write a story about a borderline 4 foot tall woman not having any feelings of being unsafe around a 7 foot linebacker of a boss towering over her regularly making fun of her hobbies for being childish. Looking back on the story, this really comes off as someone who hasn't worked in an office setting before but finds the concept romantic and wanted to fetishize it with the character designs. Igarashi is just a textbook example of someone trying to explain the concept "all women want to marry their fathers". The FMCs friend is the most clear cut fetish character I've ever seen, reading off her physical characteristics is like reading the tags on a hentai website. If you honestly think that the author would write a character in who is tall, brown skinned, pointy teethed, was on the swim team, had a rebellious "cool girl" phase, AND they secretly had same sex feelings for their friend for reasons other than to fetishize I wish I could see the world like you do
 
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You're addicted to copium if you really think the author isn't still writing weird subplot between the two. The author is a creepy dude who got lucky with catching the attention of people that like fluffy cute things and has been working on hentai revolving around the two girls while they were in school together. The entire premise of this romance was "big man on tiny woman" which can be done in a non-creepy way, but the author also regularly wrote that the character herself is also very childish in how she behaves and he still pairs her up with a giant dude who acts more like a father than a love interest because? They don't have similar interests, they barely talk outside of regular interactions between coworkers, and honestly its super tone-deaf to write a story about a borderline 4 foot tall woman not having any feelings of being unsafe around a 7 foot linebacker of a boss towering over her regularly making fun of her hobbies for being childish. Looking back on the story, this really comes off as someone who hasn't worked in an office setting before but finds the concept romantic and wanted to fetishize it with the character designs. Igarashi is just a textbook example of someone trying to explain the concept "all women want to marry their fathers". The FMCs friend is the most clear cut fetish character I've ever seen, reading off her physical characteristics is like reading the tags on a hentai website. If you honestly think that the author would write a character in who is tall, brown skinned, pointy teethed, was on the swim team, had a rebellious "cool girl" phase, AND they secretly had same sex feelings for their friend for reasons other than to fetishize I wish I could see the world like you do

Dude, I know. I was trying to word my opinions more politely than "I don't think the author will visually depict Yuuto and Natsumi getting together because he's a coomer weirdo who hates drawing his porn OCs with men unless they're faceless or off screen".

I'm honestly glad you're on the level because I've been sperging out for ages on the individual chapter releases where copium huffers keep saying "it would be less creepy if Natsumi wasn't actually in love with Yuuto at all but only with Igarashi". Like bro, she was first attracted to Igarashi in middle school and Igarashi's body never changed from then. Also somehow they DON'T notice that Yuuto and Igarashi are drawn with the same base model. If you take away their hair and clothes they're the same characters with the same proportions and the author did it on purpose. Natsumi is a weirdo no matter what.

The thing with Natsumi, I think, is the readers who only read this manga on-and-off (and aren't aware of Shiromanta's fanbox) don't see the full picture and fill in her story arc with assumptions because their brain gets turned off when they see a big titty tan tomboy. "Woah she's so tragic and sad and kinda gay what an adult storyline" like no, she's an immature, clingy, and dishonest woman who's attracted to lolis and shotas. She exploits Igarashi's obliviousness of her feelings to satisfy her personal needs and consciously teases Yuuto despite feeling like she's leading him astray.

Surprisingly too, Yuuto is the one who acts most like an adult in the story, especially since it's shown in chapter 220 he outright says he's aware of Natsumi's feelings for Igarashi but still fully loves and supports her regardless. I assume it's to show contrast between how Natsumi and Yuuto's outward appearances are the complete opposite of their emotional maturity, but it's not wholesome in any way.

It's infuriating how a lot of people were tricked by the anime into thinking this is a cute slice of life where the onee-shota is literally the only weird thing about it when the whole story is an excuse plot for Shiromanta to get paid for drawing his porn OCs.

And I agree, this comic is about a big bara man being paired up with a midget who's drawn like a child. If you couldn't sniff out the author's degeneracy from day one you're either dumb or blind.

Also yes, I'm aware he's drawing a kink doujin in his fanbox where Natsumi does kinky stuff with Futaba while they were still in high school. There's a giantess scene in there so I'm assuming it's either a dream sequence or Natsumi's fantasies. Either way people need to open their eyes and start actually seeing this manga for what it is.
 
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I got turned off of this manga a while back because of how creepy and fetishizing it was kept getting, but wondered if it ever got better (or worse) so I decided to check the comments here and yuuuuup

The author clearly has a huge pre-pubescent fetish and just needed to find an excuse to indulge it. Like it'd be one thing if it had stuck with how it started with her being tiny but still seemingly an adult, but it just kept going further and further into portraying her as a literal child incapable of taking care of herself or regulating her emotions, so it's obviously just a pretense to draw the scenarios he wants without looking like a predator

But then of course even that paper-thin premise is dropped when it's about a little boy and an adult woman since that's fine, boys WANT that so it's ok to have him be groomed by an adult, apparently
 
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I got turned off of this manga a while back because of how creepy and fetishizing it was kept getting, but wondered if it ever got better (or worse) so I decided to check the comments here and yuuuuup

The author clearly has a huge pre-pubescent fetish and just needed to find an excuse to indulge it. Like it'd be one thing if it had stuck with how it started with her being tiny but still seemingly an adult, but it just kept going further and further into portraying her as a literal child incapable of taking care of herself or regulating her emotions, so it's obviously just a pretense to draw the scenarios he wants without looking like a predator

But then of course even that paper-thin premise is dropped when it's about a little boy and an adult woman since that's fine, boys WANT that so it's ok to have him be groomed by an adult, apparently
get filtered fucking tourist.
 
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what does this even mean

"REAL fans love it when adults flirt with and sexually tease children"?
Don't bother. There's a series on MangaDex with over an 8 star rating where the premise is quite literally just textbook grooming and every comment questioning the premise, since it's y'know illegal, had the typical people getting defensive and calling them out as if THEY'RE the ones with issues since they aren't okay with a series being published focused entirely around a man in his 30s buying children to raise into his perfect harem of sex slaves. MangaDex has too many fans with twisted morals and ethics
 
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I hate when mangas end like this, 236 chapters and we're never going to see a kiss, a date, see them wake up together. I also do not understand the need to remove them from the company where they work, nor could we see the reactions of their friends. Horrible ending to a story I loved reading.
 
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I hate when mangas end like this, 236 chapters and we're never going to see a kiss, a date, see them wake up together. I also do not understand the need to remove them from the company where they work, nor could we see the reactions of their friends. Horrible ending to a story I loved reading.
Like others have said before, he probably got bored a couple of years in and just wanted to get things over with. Starting from the chapter with the sweaty tickle fight I think he got bored of the main couple and got really horny for Natsumi.

I'm of the belief that the pointless unrequited yuri subplot was an excuse for him to draw more of her and to give her a backstory that he can leverage to make an R-18 yuri doujin for his personal pleasure, which he is actually doing right now behind his paywalled Pixiv fanbox.

Even when he introduced interesting flashbacks and concepts the results end up trite and cliché. This series could've been good if it had a better writer.
 
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I just decided to come around and give the middle finger to the author one more time.
Way to waste everyone's time, buddy.
 

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