Senryuu Shoujo - Vol. 13 Ch. 163 - A romantic simulation with Koto

[Xcaliblaster]

Koto-san is just too perfect

 

[mage_goo]

man, it must suck being a ntr yurifag
all close friendship is now romantic relationship, and thus NTR
going out for shopping together? NTR
girls-only sleepover party? mega NTR
holding hands while walking? holy loki, censor that NTR shit

gals ain't allowed to have friend after she got a bf apparently

 

[Ilikeonepiece]

What the fuck are these comments lol

 

[Naian]

@mage_goo Excellent case of straw man. Everyone talked about the attempted kiss to the lips which is a symbol of romance, and you alone unrelated stuff to romance (save perhaps the handholding).

 

[mage_goo]

@Naian it's dating and sleeping together, duh
what's non-romantic about that

 

[Naian]

@mage_goo The chapter explicitly say it's a make believe dating to train Nanako, which is fine for everyone. The only wrong part is the attempt of a kiss, which counts as cheating if it went through (though in my opinion, Koto is just messing around as always and isn't seriously doing it). No one is making the argument you make that girls can't have girl friends once you enter a romantic relationship.

 

[daime17]

@mage_goo
Your girlfriend is having a yuri relationship with your childhood friend onee-san, who had or still have feelings for you? I call that harem.

 

[SuperOniichan]

@mage_goo Again, imagine as if Koto was a guy who agreed to give Nanako a romantic experience, and then tried to kiss her with doubtful consent. Or vice versa, Nanako as a guy and Koto trying to kiss "him". Authors constantly use gir x girl as a loophole for jokes or scenes which could be get as immoral or doubtful in the usual heterosexual context.

 

[MacMeaties]

Well that jumped the shark.

 

[mage_goo]

@Naian

No one is making the argument you make that girls can't have girl friends once you enter a romantic relationship

mate, you dense? that ain't even what i'm talking about
here, let me point it out for you

the attempt of a kiss, which counts as cheating if it went through

take off the yuri goggles and stop seeing innocent thing as yuri, tyvm

@SuperOniichan exactly what i'm talking about
all those scene i listed are the kind that would get immoral or doubtful if done as opposite gender
and yet they're regarded as innocent scene when done as close friend of the same gender
so take off your yuri goggles mate, just because they're close doesn't mean they want to fuck each other

 

[SuperOniichan]

@mage_goo Stop what? Are you seriously outright defending double standards and girl x girl using as loophole, even saying that it will be yuri goggles, because a kiss with another girl is not real? Are you directly saying that any physical intimacy between two girls is innocent? Did you run away from the Victorian Age?

 

[RedEco]

The ending killed me.
Those to last chapters have so many yuri potential.

 

[RedEco]

@Akemua About one of your first comment, as a yuri connoisseur, I can say that there's more yuri in the previous chapter than in this one.

Btw, am I the only one that not sees the whole problem? They're close friend and Nanako is not interested in girl, so why she can't take kissing lessons?
Have you forgotten what kind of manga we are reading?

 

[mage_goo]

@SuperOniichan

Are you seriously outright defending double standards

yep
strawman

Are you directly saying that any physical intimacy between two girls is innocent?

nah, man, i'm saying that you are saying that any and all physical intimacy between girl is not innocent
i know, it's a hard concept to grasp for someone that time-slipped away from the christian dark ages, but bear with me, okay
girl can touch other girl without them wanting to fuck each other

 

[SuperOniichan]

@RedEco Lol, this week the second time I hear a hint that homosexuality or bisexuality can justify this. In any case, I think your interest in yuri is the answer to your first question.

@mage_goo It is amusing to hear this from a person who for the second time is stubbornly trying to bring the arguments of his opponents to the point of absurdity. Or do you want to say that only you have the exclusive right to generalize the arguments of opponents?

Do you call a kiss with dubious consent just “touch”? Or do you want to say that if the passive girl is straight, then she has a resist to all the actions of bisexual or lesbian active girls? It seems that now I understand Hagure Idol more with Rui's statement that if you received an orgasm from yuri, then you are a gay girl.

 

[Gagweeb]

LMAO nanako's dad

 

[mochi]

fuck you nanako's dad

 

[RedEco]

@SuperOniichan Wait, I don't get your comment, When I talk about homosexuality or bisexuality? And what should that justify? Nanako and Koto are (probably) hetero (for what we know). I'm a great yuri fan, and let me tell you something: there is no "actual" yuri (romantically speaking) in this chapter, just fanservice and gags; Koto could be bisexual (imo, she's pansexual), but there's no romantic involvement between her and Nanako. They're just two girl who practice kissing (and talking about "dubious consent", that was a Nanako request!).
There is more "real" yuri in the previous chapter.

 

[Akemua]

@RedEco Holy hell you're delusional. What are you even saying? We're not talking about Nanako liking other girls or not. We're literally saying that this chapter was taken too far and had it been a guy that was doing this shit, everyone, including the yurifags, would be freaking out.

We're saying people like you are hypocrites because you're so blinded by your fetish you see nothing wrong with what happened in this chapter. I:E "They're close friend and Nanako is not interested in girl, so why she can't take kissing lessons?" What a disgusting mentality. You're explicitly saying that as long as Nanako is kissing/ taking "kissing lessons" from a girl, there is nothing wrong with that. Despite the fact she is in a relationship/ actually LOVES another person and someone else, specifically a girl is trying to forcibly kiss her. Oh wait, it's not even just that. The author also sees nothing wrong with it, and for whatever reason thinks having another girl push her down and try and kiss her is okay; and also that Nankako shouldn't try and resist other than be "shy".

That's what we're talking about. The implication is that had this chapter been with a guy taking Nanako on a date, driving at night on the mountain top, whether they were friends or not; and had he jumped on top of her and tried to forcibly kiss her only to have her dad miraculously show up at the last second, Nanako and this entire comment section would be freaking out. But no, because it's two females... YURI!!!! And it's not a big deal.

I already said in a previous post that because it didn't actually happen, it's not a huge issue and I'm just venting. Just that this is my least favorite chapter because of the implications and because of people that I KNEW would defend it just solely based on the fact it's two females. BTW, thanks for proving that point to a T.

 

[SuperOniichan]

@RedEco it's funny to hear about the assumption of pansexuality in the title, the pinnacle of LGBTQ in which are jokes about lesbian kisses and an obsession with big boobs. Romantic involvement is not necessary. If my girlfriend was "friendly" fucking with another girl (oh, I'm too obsessed with Hagure Idol), then I would call it NTR. And it would be completely fair if I had fucked another man in the ass behind her back and she didn’t like it too. Personally, I see the problem not even in the fact that it is meant as "not serious", although Koto is bisexual and needs to understand the consequences, but that the author is clearly trying to sell it to us as yuri stuff.

That is, we are directly get a hint of a lesbian fanservice under the flag "lesbian stuff is not real." Well, that is, this manga suddenly turns into Eupho, lol. I am far from being an ideal of a progressive person and I am not going to hide behind the feelings of any of my queer friends, I just got tired of seeing yuri as a loophole in any sense. In any case, although I think that @Akemua was somewhat too emotional, he (she?) Perfectly explained this without me.