Sensitive Boy - Ch. 56 - You guys would not understand

[CulR]

So what if he takes pity on you? He can still be your friend. Friends don't have to have similar circumstances, they become friends together despite all odds.

It's been a while since we've seen black background-kun

 

[vannn]

Of course they don't know what Izumi's going through because he didn't tell them. After Izumi unloaded his feelings Kaede fucked up by making the conversation about someone else. Unintentionally all that does is isolate Izumi even more because he finally told his friends what he went through and was met with the same thing he's experienced his whole life, that his feelings don't matter because they're affecting someone else. This chapter made me REALLY dislike Kaede.

Honestly one of the better developments though story wise, can’t have conflict if everyone is either perfectly empathetic or the devil. Add to that all of the time we’ve spent with Kaede’s character and it’s genuinely affecting when they don’t ‘do the right thing’.

 

[CurlyBruce]

This is a checkpoint in any relationship tbh. Especially that last statement...Equal Friends. Each and Everyone at some point has to 'depend' on others. Not being a able to do so is a trait and is a victim of 'Toxic Masculinity'.

It's not even a Toxic Masculinity thing, women behave like this too. It's more of a consequence of us being social creatures and wanting to be on equal terms with our peers. Nobody likes feeling inferior and struggling while your friends seem to be doing fine is a miserable experience. It's a hard hill to get over and finally ask for help so that you can get on an even playing field.

It's the same reason people refuse to go on welfare even though their family could desperately use it. It's the same reason people are ashamed to admit they use food stamps. And possibly more relevantly it's the same reason people in abusive households/relationship rarely admit to it and seek help, because they don't want to be viewed as victims. Stretch it far enough and it also explains why people in cults remain in cults even long after the cult has developed to the point that it is obviously bad for them. People in general are just woefully reluctant to admit they fucked up or they need help.

 

[soda_bunny]

Idk why Izumi's bros aren't more worried about the physical abuse by the father? It's weird that they implied his gf is to blame for making him misbehave enough to make the dad hit him???

Maybe corporal punishment still isn't considered abuse in Japan? Idk, def didn't sit right with me!

 

[CurlyBruce]

So what if he takes pity on you? He can still be your friend. Friends don't have to have similar circumstances, they become friends together despite all odds.

It's been a while since we've seen black background-kun

There is a difference between pity and empathy. Pity is a negative quality no matter how you slice it and in fact it's why the term "pitiful" is seen negatively. Pitying someone doesn't really seek to alleviate or otherwise help them, it's just a means of acknowledging that someone is suffering and nothing else. Like a "man that sucks for you, anyway" kind of feeling.

Empathy goes beyond and commiserates with the afflicted. They seek to offer support because they care and not out of some sense of obligation. They want the person's situation to improve and they'll try to help if they can. A core component of empathy is that it affects your feelings as well; this other person's suffering is causing you emotional discomfort. Pity has no such condition.

 

[2hot4you]

Codependence was spot on

 

[MiguelH224]

He needed his ass beat! He wanna be a fake emo like his crazy ass girlfriend so bad. Fine do it alone

......"fake emo"??

He's literally living with an abusive father....one that hates him


Come on now

 

[CulR]

There is a difference between pity and empathy. Pity is a negative quality no matter how you slice it and in fact it's why the term "pitiful" is seen negatively. Pitying someone doesn't really seek to alleviate or otherwise help them, it's just a means of acknowledging that someone is suffering and nothing else. Like a "man that sucks for you, anyway" kind of feeling.

Empathy goes beyond and commiserates with the afflicted. They seek to offer support because they care and not out of some sense of obligation. They want the person's situation to improve and they'll try to help if they can. A core component of empathy is that it affects your feelings as well; this other person's suffering is causing you emotional discomfort. Pity has no such condition.

Were they not showing empathy then? It looks that way by your explanation. Why would he call it pity?

 

[CulR]

Did author reveal what the next arc's sensitive boy is about? Dead siblings?

 

[G-P]

Melodrama~

 

[CurlyBruce]

Were they not showing empathy then? It looks that way by your explanation. Why would he call it pity?

They were, but the point was that he would think it's pity because people in bad situations tend to be self deprecating and way harder on themselves than they have any logical reason to be. I went over it in a different post but people think asking for help or taking a handout is just people pitying them but his friends genuinely want to help him.

In his bad state of mind though he isn't using reason and he's projecting his own insecurities onto the behavior of others. He himself doesn't think people care so he can only perceive their concern as pity. It's also why he's lashing out and getting defensive which isn't helped by Kaede being a dumbass and turning it into a "who has it worse" competition. Asherdales said it more poignantly but suffering is not a contest and Kaede's little remark is only going to drive Izumi further away from seeking help by downplaying his situation.

 

[KnightSpark]

You got two awesome bros that are literally the ride or die type, and you fucking push them away

Sigh

Just another sad example of one not appreciating what- or in this case, who- they have.

 

[pink_rabbit]

I kinda get Izumi. You feel the world is turned against you and you have one person you can relate to. You start to think that others will be against you instead of understanding. What Izumi wants it codependency and blind loyalty. Izumi wants those to agree with him and understand him instead of realizing that those who truly care about you want to snap you back to reality, doing better in life.

I thought Boy’s Abyss messed me up, but this manga…

The difference between shounen no abyss and this manga is that this is more to relatability. Sensitive boy is a coming-of-age of boys who have gone through shit and getting better. It's as if we, the audience, can see a bit of ourselves overcome challenges that we can relate to.

Shounen no abyss is just about trauma and how low can we go. Some don't get better and go further down the depressed rabbit hole. I think this manga would be harder for others because we can see a bit of ourselves.

 

[lucidnyxx]

What a fucking idiot lmao.

 

[Elrufi]

Is he the Sensitive Boy? It's not boys so it might just be him

 

[Karikko]

Title drop

Insensitive Boy

 

[Skater901]

This is a checkpoint in any relationship tbh. Especially that last statement...Equal Friends. Each and Everyone at some point has to 'depend' on others. Not being a able to do so is a trait and is a victim of 'Toxic Masculinity'.

I think the difference is "depending on someone during a temporary situation" and "letting someone know about your permanent or long-term situation that can't easily be resolved and will turn you into a charity case." Izumi's situation is the latter, and even though I don't think his bros would treat him that way, he's obviously concerned about it. Another perspective is that he values the normal time he spends with his friends, and he doesn't want them to know about his family situation, because it might irrevocably change the time that they spend together, with his bros walking on egg shells around him.

 

[aa11bb]

The difference between shounen no abyss and this manga is that this is more to relatability. Sensitive boy is a coming-of-age of boys who have gone through shit and getting better. It's as if we, the audience, can see a bit of ourselves overcome challenges that we can relate to.

Shounen no abyss is just about trauma and how low can we go. Some don't get better and go further down the depressed rabbit hole. I think this manga would be harder for others because we can see a bit of ourselves.

Okay

 

[Skater901]

On real life, the chance of salvaging the relationship with his father would be miniscule. Hell, given the way the dad is being painted, why would anyone want to remain in contact with a parent who doesn't do the bare minimum AND hits their adolescent son? It would be too much of a leap of logic if somehow the father had a sudden change of heart after all that and now wants to be a "good dad", or for MC to forgive many years of poor treatment and trauma, specially on the short term.

I think this is a cultural thing; I can see it happening in Japan that the father is forgiven, because despite his poor way of showing it, his father is trying to discipline him and make him fit in to society. It seems too harsh to us, but it probably makes more sense in Japan.

 

[Rainmoarr]