Shin'yuu no Otto wo Ubatta no wa, Watashi deshita - Ch. 6

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To think some people didn't wanted this spinoff because they thought it woud make us empathize with her.
It actually shows us very well what a bitch she really is, and now we understand how she got there, which is better.

Concerning the tournament of the worst, I still feel Itsuki is the one. He have strong opponents for sure, but at this point, he really seems toxic to the point of being dangerous.
 
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I cannot stand Rei and I truly think he was the worst of the bunch. Rio made terrible choices and shouldn't be forgiven for them, but I at least see the through-line of how she got from Point A to Point B, as dumb as it all really was.
Rei is .... just an asshole, thinks only with his dick, is lazy and conceited and egotistical, and I really can't wait for the Special Bonus Chapter that shows how Mahoro ended up with him.
I do think he’s the worst of the bunch but he’s a bit too comical a character for me. Not that I don’t acknowledge that people with such values and behaviours don’t exist but there’s almost too many failings in the people surrounding Mahoro for her to be as spotless in her own character and still interact with them as she does.

It might be the particulars of eastern culture that keep so much of the internal thoughts and feelings from each other but Rei’s conduct would’ve drawn out a response of some kind from most people. He is so irredeemably an asshole and so clearly puts his own passions and pleasures before all else, to the point his own friends acknowledge these flaws in him.

In real life there’d be some degree of short sitedness or overlooking of flaws in someones character that would normally happen in these situations. At least from my own personal experience and the experience of people I’ve met in my life. The fact he gets so lucky with the people he interacts with that he even gets to be a piece of shit as long as he is.

Ah well.

I really do wanna see how he charmed her initially.
 
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I do think he’s the worst of the bunch but he’s a bit too comical a character for me. Not that I don’t acknowledge that people with such values and behaviours don’t exist but there’s almost too many failings in the people surrounding Mahoro for her to be as spotless in her own character and still interact with them as she does.

It might be the particulars of eastern culture that keep so much of the internal thoughts and feelings from each other but Rei’s conduct would’ve drawn out a response of some kind from most people. He is so irredeemably an asshole and so clearly puts his own passions and pleasures before all else, to the point his own friends acknowledge these flaws in him.

In real life there’d be some degree of short sitedness or overlooking of flaws in someones character that would normally happen in these situations. At least from my own personal experience and the experience of people I’ve met in my life. The fact he gets so lucky with the people he interacts with that he even gets to be a piece of shit as long as he is.

Ah well.

I really do wanna see how he charmed her initially.
Mahoro has been shown to not be the smartest cookie, so it probably didn't take much effort from Rei.
 
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@Nosebleed In the author's note, "duel" should be "dual".
Also the "close" sign on the cafe doors should probably be "closed", but maybe that English was in the raws.
 
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I do think he’s the worst of the bunch but he’s a bit too comical a character for me. Not that I don’t acknowledge that people with such values and behaviours don’t exist but there’s almost too many failings in the people surrounding Mahoro for her to be as spotless in her own character and still interact with them as she does.

It might be the particulars of eastern culture that keep so much of the internal thoughts and feelings from each other but Rei’s conduct would’ve drawn out a response of some kind from most people. He is so irredeemably an asshole and so clearly puts his own passions and pleasures before all else, to the point his own friends acknowledge these flaws in him.

In real life there’d be some degree of short sitedness or overlooking of flaws in someones character that would normally happen in these situations. At least from my own personal experience and the experience of people I’ve met in my life. The fact he gets so lucky with the people he interacts with that he even gets to be a piece of shit as long as he is.

Ah well.

I really do wanna see how he charmed her initially.
I actually think your first line is why he irks me so much about Rei, specifically.

Rio, Kyouko, even Itsuki have depth to their characters and reasons, however stupid, for being how they are. Even if they're all varying degrees of bad people - or if you wanna be neutral, people capable of very bad choices and actions - that give them some manner of complexity where you see at least a couple sides to them.

Rei....is just a clown. Lead around by his dick, only cares about himself, and even then it's honestly amazing that he (just like those like him in real life) are capable of pulling multiple women like he's clearly able to.

There's nothing really redeeming about him that I can see, once you get past the surface of his I guess above-average attractive appearance and superficial charm, and we have multiple friends/colleagues of his state clearly for the narrative record that he's just a lying, lazy, self-centered ass.

He feels so much flatter than everyone else, that I just can't bring myself to see him as less-bad than the others who are actively making bad choices that affect others. Rei just goes with the flow, but he's so shallow that simply chasing tail makes him feel uniquely terrible compared to the rest of the cast.

Anyway, that's all I got on that front.
 
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On the edge of my seat waiting to see how she comes up with the idea of selling her fucking affair tapes.
I kinda wonder if it's her making money on the side that she can squirrel away from Itsuki.
She operates purely on her own self-interest and desire to be liked & praised; but her specifically selling them feels like there's a financial motive involved.

She chooses to dismiss divorce in her unhappy marriage because of the material factor & stability of a wealthy husband, but maybe she wants extra money of her own that she "earns herself" to feel accomplished? In a way that the cafe doesn't do for her, anyway.

That, or paywalling her sex tapes maybe has some "harder for Itsuki to come across" aspect or something, but that feels less-reasonable to me at this point.
 
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Damn. Bitch really said I won, after betraying her best friend... Wild logic here.
 
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Ngl for a manga that was supposed to be about showing Rio's perspective of events, it's kind of frustrating how much it straight up lacks exactly that. Like, we're seeing scenes focused on her and hearing her immediately surface level thoughts about the events that take place but there's nothing that would actually explain or contextualise her behaviour. Like, just as a random example - why didn't she open up to her friends about how unhappy she was in her marriage? Obviously the Doylist reason is "if she did there would be no story" but what is the in-character impulse that drives that decision? Embarrassment? Pride? Something else entirely?

The closest we ever get is that line in the main story about how Rio thinks of relationships between women as being inherently adversarial which is a FASCINATING psychological snarl to give a character but nothing about it is ever fleshed out and, so far at least, we've seen nothing to indicate why she believes that or how it influences her behaviour.

I wasn't expecting some "actually Rio was super sympathetic all along" reveal but if the explanation of her actions was just going to be the same "she did it because she's an evil liar vixen slut whore!!!!111!!!one!!!11" level of characterization from the original story them I kind of wonder what the point even is.
 
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The closest we ever get is that line in the main story about how Rio thinks of relationships between women as being inherently adversarial which is a FASCINATING psychological snarl to give a character but nothing about it is ever fleshed out and, so far at least, we've seen nothing to indicate why she believes that or how it influences her behaviour.

I think this is all below the surface. Rio likes to brag, show off, and feed her ego. I still think about the cookies/pastries she did last chapter, and how the author declared at the end with a comment about "an attack" or such. The best I can think of is that it has to do something about "feminity" and the Japanese culture values about women.

Like, I don't think she thinks highly of her friends, at all. Not in their adulthood... not even in their college years.

From what Mahoro tells us in the main story, Rio was the "wise one", the "onee-san", the "one with a neutral voice"... but... was all of it honest? An act? Because, the author portrayed Mahoro and the others in college much more like: "plain and not exactly smart" Mahoro, "the one that sleeps around" Momoka, and "ugly and try-hard" Kyouko (I mean, didn't we all think it was Momoka who was having sex with Rei, at first? Up until the first twist, anyway?). So, what is exactly the reason Rio still was 'friends' with them? To boost her ego and superiority? "I'm not like them, at all. I'm so much better".

And it's like... she married a "cute" guy, she is well-off, she is even an entrepreneur at the side! What do the other have compared to her? Maybe she thinks like: "Momoka, who slept around, is single and unmarried". "Kyouko got married, yes, and has a kid... but her sex life is nonexistent!", and Mahoro... "she says that she is happy, but Rei says she is lazy, she is unfit as a wife and DOESN'T even look at her as a woman. What nonsense!". "I'm not like them, at all. I'm so much better... right?" Especially because she isn't truly happy with Itsuki... but what the hell! She doesn't want to divorce (I don't think Itsuki would like it as an option either, tbh?), because she would lose her stability, and doesn't want to be seen as a divorced woman, either. "Yeah, I will show them! I will show them I'm DEFINITELY better than them!"

So, I imagine that as an adult her beliefs about "friendship between women is just an illusion", are just because she feels women are always comparing themselves between each other. Someone has to "win". "To have it better than the other(s)" and such. Something that started as a "friendship", in her head, isn't honest and has ulterior motives for feeling superior later on life (that is if they are still friends later on).

I do agree that I feel like this whole "friendship between women is just an illusion" angle would have been better to explore and illustrate in this spin-off? Like, showing us up much more about why she thinks it like that. Comparing herself to the others (and not just Mahoro). I know we are still early (in her POV) before the actual letter she left and provoking Kyouko to "go and get Rei for herself", but... I would have liked to see how she does, in fact, think about her supposedly friends. Although it all feel implicit.
 
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Rei tried to pull the "She can't leave me if I rape her and knock her up" card at the last second. They're just different flavors of psycho husband
They may be different flavors but one stains your tongue and after so long you don’t even know what taste is and the other is insanely spicy after being bland the entire time so something HAS to be up. It’s like putting a pro against an amateur: yes they play the same game but are LEAGUES apart.
 

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