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I think the question is 'what's the payoff?' Given the level of investment that would be needed to get a team there and back, I'm not sure going just to drop off a plaque is necessarily the best use of time and energy, and the idea of 'settlement' on another planet could be worked out using the moon much easier to start.

Honestly, if you want to do something amazing, my vote would be to build a telescope array (both visible light and radio/X-ray) on the dark side of the moon.
Why does there have to be a payoff for the advancement of the Human race? IF there has to be a payoff of some kind let it be the fact that we now have the capability to send people across planets that opens up doors to new possibilities and yes I do agree that if we are going to settle outside earth the moon is the most obvious first choice. Fuck the telescope lets focus on our own solar system first
 
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Why does there have to be a payoff for the advancement of the Human race? IF there has to be a payoff of some kind let it be the fact that we now have the capability to send people across planets that opens up doors to new possibilities and yes I do agree that if we are going to settle outside earth the moon is the most obvious first choice. Fuck the telescope lets focus on our own solar system first
Presumably the self-sustaining settlement of other planets would be the eventual payoff, but first we have to find them, and as there doesn't seem to be anything else that is 'habitable' without a good bit of work in the solar system, having a look around the neighborhood seems like a reasonable next step. A telescope array with a significant baseline, undisturbed by transmissions from Earth, would give much better resolution than anything we have available at the moment, and make it a good bit easier to spot planets around other stars, and potentially gather some information as to their composition. While we're having a look-see, we can try some things with off-world settlement on the near side of the moon and see what works and what doesn't.

I do enjoy 'cool science,' but human space exploration is resource intensive enough there really needs to be something more than 'we carved our names up there' to come out of it.
 
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Presumably the self-sustaining settlement of other planets would be the eventual payoff, but first we have to find them, and as there doesn't seem to be anything else that is 'habitable' without a good bit of work in the solar system, having a look around the neighborhood seems like a reasonable next step. A telescope array with a significant baseline, undisturbed by transmissions from Earth, would give much better resolution than anything we have available at the moment, and make it a good bit easier to spot planets around other stars, and potentially gather some information as to their composition. While we're having a look-see, we can try some things with off-world settlement on the near side of the moon and see what works and what doesn't.

I do enjoy 'cool science,' but human space exploration is resource intensive enough there really needs to be something more than 'we carved our names up there' to come out of it.
non non non non NON why look for habitable planets million of light years away when we have no method of reaching them? We would spend all those resources for what a shiny rock we can't even get to screw that investing in what we can reach should be the first step only after should we start branching out also i get that you think its not worth it for the prestige alone but i believe thats the fundamental first step to igniting humanity's passion to conquer the stars once more
 
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You already knew that the one place we were allowed to talk about the topic is closed.

Another one will never be opened in these forums, it's just not the place.
true but to be honest i completely forgot i even posted anything politics related
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and you're killing my space talking mood bro im over here talking about the stars and you over here coming in hot and heavy with them deletes but don't worry i promise not to do it again i swear
 
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non non non non NON why look for habitable planets million of light years away when we have no method of reaching them? We would spend all those resources for what a shiny rock we can't even get to screw that investing in what we can reach should be the first step only after should we start branching out also i get that you think its not worth it for the prestige alone but i believe thats the fundamental first step to igniting humanity's passion to conquer the stars once more
No, not millions of light years away. Local neighborhood - start within 100 light years and get a good map built up.

Also, I don't think the fascination with 'BIG SCIENCE THINGS' is there at the moment, at least not how it was in the 50's and 60's. There's still a group of people who get fired up about it, but it seems like (at least in the US) there are... other things*... sucking up much of the energy at the moment.

* To clarify, I am talking about sports and television, and not anything else. Just in case there was any confusion about that.
 
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No, not millions of light years away. Local neighborhood - start within 100 light years and get a good map built up.

Also, I don't think the fascination with 'BIG SCIENCE THINGS' is there at the moment, at least not how it was in the 50's and 60's. There's still a group of people who get fired up about it, but it seems like (at least in the US) there are... other things*... sucking up much of the energy at the moment.

* To clarify, I am talking about sports and television, and not anything else. Just in case there was any confusion about that.
and thats why im saying being the first ones to have someone land on mars or just have someone land on mars in general will ignite that passion once more and even 100 light years away is far man considering the fact we can't even travel at the speed of light let alone achieve FTL anything sent over there would be on a one way trip
 
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and thats why im saying being the first ones to have someone land on mars or just have someone land on mars in general will ignite that passion once more
I'm not convinced it will, though - there's too much other stuff going on for me to think that 'humanity will unite behind one big effort' for something like this. Maybe there's a brief one-time bump, but I just don't think it sticks in a meaningful way.
 

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