Shiunji-ke no Kodomotachi - Vol. 9 Ch. 65

[MangaDex]

 

[razorshaleh]

i confused about whether Kyoko is a bad mother or a good mother but L real father minami & shion

thank you for translating

 

[battle1234]

Well, the twins’ father is a real jerk, and I really feel sorry for Yamaguchi.

However, I don’t know how others feel, but for me this series is starting to feel a bit “coincidental” it just so happens that Kaname adopted the twins, it just so happens that Kaname’s wife turned out to be Yamaguchi’s acquaintance, and it just so happens that Kaname isn’t a complete jerk and as a rich man has “feelings.”

Now, another thing that’s a bit strange if Kaname decided to tell everyone that they aren’t related, why didn’t he reveal the truth to Minami and Shion that their biological mother had been with them for 95% of their lives?

Probably in a few chapters they’ll learn the truth, and it will surely be an emotional chapter.

 

[secondBLUE]

 

[Darklight99]

Interesting but aside from the coincidence, it would have meant more if we actually knew the maid beforehand. Also, she looks way too old, her children are just teenagers, she probably isn't even 40 years old

 

[randomscreamer]

Having children was a bad idea for her but as a mother she was responsible so it s hard to say she's a bad mother or a good one but she is a good person

 

[Darkenning]

Now, another thing that’s a bit strange if Kaname decided to tell everyone that they aren’t related, why didn’t he reveal the truth to Minami and Shion that their biological mother had been with them for 95% of their lives?

Because he's running some kind of social experiment.

Think about it -- how does the douchebag know that Minami and Shion's biomom is their nanny? Unlike the kids, her identity is information unlikely to be released to the press. So who told him? Who would have known? Answer: Kaname.

 

[yourmanzstan]

Well, the twins’ father is a real jerk, and I really feel sorry for Yamaguchi.

However, I don’t know how others feel, but for me this series is starting to feel a bit “coincidental” it just so happens that Kaname adopted the twins, it just so happens that Kaname’s wife turned out to be Yamaguchi’s acquaintance, and it just so happens that Kaname isn’t a complete jerk and as a rich man has “feelings.”

Now, another thing that’s a bit strange if Kaname decided to tell everyone that they aren’t related, why didn’t he reveal the truth to Minami and Shion that their biological mother had been with them for 95% of their lives?

Probably in a few chapters they’ll learn the truth, and it will surely be an emotional chapter.

Exactly. This is my real question because it feels very meh. Even if you want to play the “not dropping too much on them”: card it kinda falls flat. As if Kaname didn’t say you’re not my kids into immediately leaving before they can ask any questions is certainly a move of all time. Only to later then find out your actual mom was with you the whole time? This is certainly a family in a manga alright.

 

[joomba]

Interesting but aside from the coincidence, it would have meant more if we actually knew the maid beforehand. Also, she looks way too old, her children are just teenagers, she probably isn't even 40 years old

they were born when she was 24, they are 16-17 now. puts her right at 40-41

 

[yourmanzstan]

Honestly I think that their mother made the right decision. Whether or not that’s good or bad is really is up to your own personal preference and beliefs. If you don’t fully trust and believe in yourself to take on that role of being a parent then you shouldn’t do it. The adoption system itself I’m sure has many problems of its own that I don’t deny, but many people still consider the best option.

Now everything else after that is just pure plot convenience, there’s no other way around that. Finding the mom who just so happens to have your kids yada yada.

Kaname choosing not to tell them is a very interesting decision and I’m hoping we get into that soon. From the perspective of someone who’s not a parent .. he’s not exactly father of the year. So we’ll see how Reiji decides to move forward with him.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Interesting but aside from the coincidence, it would have meant more if we actually knew the maid beforehand. Also, she looks way too old, her children are just teenagers, she probably isn't even 40 years old

I honestly don't remember what year Minami & Shion are in - 2nd year of high school, maybe?
Going with that, they'd be 16 or 17 years old; their mother had them at 24, so she'd be 40 or 41 at that point.
But - she also was living in poverty after their birth, and as a single parent and then a single woman afterward, there's every chance she didn't have the most "comfortable" life to that point. And stress, especially socioeconomic stress, will age people prematurely.
So even at 40, if she wasn't eating well for part of her early adulthood life and then had a "comfortable job" as a live-in nanny for the ~15 years she's with the Shiunji's, those effects would persist.
To say nothing of the low-grade stress that is keeping her identity secret, while being literally around her children their whole lives and not being able to tell them the truth--on top of the guilt she felt at having to give them up, only to turn around and miss them enough to beg to be "the Help" for their adoptive parents just to be near them.

All of that to say - the emotional, physical, and mental toll of that sort of life over close to two decades showing as "age" on her is understandable.

 

[aka_randomhero]

Interesting but aside from the coincidence, it would have meant more if we actually knew the maid beforehand. Also, she looks way too old, her children are just teenagers, she probably isn't even 40 years old

She was 24 when she had the twins and they’re now 15 so she’s 39 as we speak

 

[aka_randomhero]

I honestly don't remember what year Minami & Shion are in - 2nd year of high school, maybe?
Going with that, they'd be 16 or 17 years old; their mother had them at 24, so she'd be 40 or 41 at that point.
But - she also was living in poverty after their birth, and as a single parent and then a single woman afterward, there's every chance she didn't have the most "comfortable" life to that point. And stress, especially socioeconomic stress, will age people prematurely.
So even at 40, if she wasn't eating well for part of her early adulthood life and then had a "comfortable job" as a live-in nanny for the ~15 years she's with the Shiunji's, those effects would persist.
To say nothing of the low-grade stress that is keeping her identity secret, while being literally around her children their whole lives and not being able to tell them the truth--on top of the guilt she felt at having to give them up, only to turn around and miss them enough to beg to be "the Help" for their adoptive parents just to be near them.

All of that to say - the emotional, physical, and mental toll of that sort of life over close to two decades showing as "age" on her is understandable.

Their ages are revealed in the first chapter

 

[UdenEmpati]

Honestly I think that their mother made the right decision. Whether or not that’s good or bad is really is up to your own personal preference and beliefs. If you don’t fully trust and believe in yourself to take on that role of being a parent then you shouldn’t do it. The adoption system itself I’m sure has many problems of its own that I don’t deny, but many people still consider the best option.

Now everything else after that is just pure plot convenience, there’s no other way around that. Finding the mom who just so happens to have your kids yada yada.

Kaname choosing not to tell them is a very interesting decision and I’m hoping we get into that soon. From the perspective of someone who’s not a parent .. he’s not exactly father of the year. So we’ll see how Reiji decides to move forward with him.

I absolutely think she made the correct decision, because ultimately her children stood a better chance rolling the dice with adoption than they would with her--a single parent slipping into poverty, unable to keep up with her own needs and theirs.
She won the "lottery" of adoption in the Shiunji family being their eventual parents, especially given the coincidental narration that is the mother getting the chance to (secretly) stay in their lives by virtue of becoming a maid & nanny for her now-rich college friend.

It was a very hard decision, surely, and I think her feeling guilt, feeling shame, and yet being so happy even in having to keep it all secret, is entirely understandable and I empathize with her greatly. The good news, is her children could grow up loved and happy and comfortable, and she got about as good a deal beyond that as is probably reasonable given the setup -- as I'm sure she could prosper a bit, assuming she wasn't paid peanuts by her employer.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Their ages are revealed in the first chapter

was worried it was buried somewhere in the narrative so I didn't go looking - but even at 39, I stand by the rest of my argument.

 

[SilentWInd]

Dam near made me cry.

 

[Seyclops]

i confused about whether Kyoko is a bad mother or a good mother but L real father minami & shion

thank you for translating

There's no other way to look at it. She knew she had no way to raise the kids but still gave birth to them. She may not have aborted them but if Japan didn't have good adoption services, she might have as well killed them to poverty.

I personally think she did her best knowing what she thought was good for all. She had no way raising them and might as well take a chance that having them sent for adoption would give them a chance for a better life.

She was just fortunate in how things played out.

 

[SlowSimDriver44]

For me, she was a good mother, even though she gave the twins up for adoption. Unfortunately, being a single parent isn't easy if you don't have anyone to assists(she had lost her parents long ago and had no relatives), plus that piece of shit who has nothing of a man except his gender got her pregnant and couldn't care less. She probably suffered from postpartum depression(it's not mentioned in the manga, but it's more common than you might think) and little money to support all three of them made that decision. Six months later, when she saw them again, her repressed emotions obviously resurfaced violently. The Shiunji family did the right thing in taking her in and giving her a job as a maid. It's easy to see what that piece of shit is after: the Shiunji family's money and perhaps to be the guardian of both of them. In particular, he is after Minami because she is a future pro tennis player.

This is what I think.

Thanks for TL

 

[JasonBourne117]

Why do I have a feeling that this is going to turn dark real quick? Also I'm surprised by the writing (yes even rent a girlfriend has good writing BUT the one biggest critique for the previous work is the pacing which I feel contributes greatly to the ... reputation it currently has), the pacing is quite neat.

 

[Totemslap]

Reminder that Reiji Miyajima doesn't write garbage because he's incapable of writing anything good—he writes garbage because that shit sells and has made him a multimillionaire. Even during the filmmaking arc of RAG he proved that he's more than capable of high quality character writing and emotional storytelling.

And all this in a literal incest harem manga. Sasuga, Reiji.