Sonna Kazoku nara Sutechaeba?

[IndecentReader]

I read ahead of the raws and hate everyone, except for the grandpa and the aunt.

 

[CallMeMForr]

this shit is absolute ass

 

[jank9525]

misery porn.

Really nailed it

 

[Dabaha]

when i see this kind of... bullshit (sorry for a lack of better words.)
i always wonder "who the hell is it even for?" it's just misery porn.

there's not a single moment when the writing isn't just miserable.
who the hell even want to read something like that? why would you create something like that?
i guess i can see it resonate with suicidal-peoples, but i still don't understand why you'd encourage them.

and it's a brand of writing i only see in japanese writing.
i've never seen "misery-porn" anywhere else but in japanese writing, whether it's movies or literature.
it's not "dark", it's "miserable", even "grim-dark" stories usually tries to lighten up the mood once in a while,
at least to make the drama and somber tone of the writing efficient.

here, i don't get it.
i don't understand why you'd write a story like that.
i don't understand why you'd write characters like that.
i don't understand why you'd read a story like that.

it's the kind of writing made only for peoples like it's author.
it's the kind of stories made by someone that aime to give you a 13th reason.
i guess if you absolutely hate life and everything it has to offer, it might be your alley.

but keep in mind,
there's only so much pity you can have for someone before it turn into frustration and then spite.
at some point, you're bound to think "maybe if they stopped with the self-pity and actually did something, things would change?"

This comment was super interesting to me, I remember once reading a manga that I considered to be misery porn and I just couldn't understand why people would read it. I didn't even think of this manga as misery porn until I read your comment so let me answer the questions you proposed:

i don't understand why you'd write a story like that.
I thought the story was about the interaction between people who have personalities that make them express themselves differently and expect different behavior out of each other.
The father is always trying to look out for others and forget about himself (only looks outside of himself) (I have a family member that's autistically like that), the mom is a moron who cant read peoples emotions (only looks into herself) and learned to go with the flow, so when shit isnt part of the flow or "normal" she looses her shit, because she isn't normal she just acts normal, she repeats behaviors she thinks is normal but not because she is reacting to the situation, she seems to have learn through observation so she acts to meet what she thinks are peoples expectations of what is normal so she doesn't react to people she reacts to things that go outside of her expectation of normality, the whole situation comes from the terrible combination of selfish moron (mom) and "only the feeling of other people matter" (dad) the situation gets worse and worse. I keep reading because I felt that it was slowly inching foward, like the shit stalemate was going to get resolved.

i don't understand why you'd write characters like that.
To expose this dynamic and hopefully show a natural progression where the situation gets resolved (I hope).

i don't understand why you'd read a story like that.
Im interested in what other people (the author) thinks a solution for this case would be, knowing people that are a little bit like that (doormats who live with selfish people) this became really interesting to me.



buuuuuuuuuuuuuut after reading your comment I kinda started re-contextualizing stuff in my head... maybe I'm reading more in this manga then it was actually intended,Im up to chapter 32, if the father doesn't go after his daughter who fled to abusive grandpa's house I'm dropping this shit. He (the dad) is a bit of a pansy and a moron but so far he wanted the best for his wife and daughter, he just didn't know how to deal with the wife because the situation was fucked from the start (never put your dick in crazy) if he decides to allow the daughter to be there... with grandpa trauma... holy shit its just misery porn all right... also, its japanese so there's probably grape in the story, that might make me drop this story, especially if it happens to Ichika(as that would just be gratuitous suffering for the sake of suffering), I feel kinda bad for her mom but fuck² her mom, fuck the teacher, fuck the OF neighbour (If my read on her is correct and she is just waiting to take the father because she has a need to take care of people), maybe fuck the dad too, he should grow a pair.
EDIT: okay this is probably just misery porn I lost my time reading 32 chapters... I checked the dorama episode sinopsis apparently

Spoiler: dorama

shit goes full soap opera dad did something to separate the family, Hikaru is ichikas twin, theres a guy sitting on a sofa wearing leopard stamped tight "whities", mom is sitting beside him in the sofa, and the dad is standing looking all emo on the side, just wtf man...

EDIT2: apparently the spoilers where just for the drama version, the manga moves on retardadly in a different direction according to someone in the comments who says he read the comic up to a certain point in the raws. which is a little bit weird because if Im not mistaken in chapter 86 the tapes are still around but ok whatever
raw: 第84話 / そんな家族なら捨てちゃえば？ - 村山渉 | コミックトレイル｜漫画とつながるフェス空間！

 

[chainBladead]

I hate the teacher guy, like why? You know the husband's situation, you know she's toxic and self absorbed, are you desperate for crazy bitch pussy that hard? Not to mention how treats both kids. Goddamn. I know he's meant to be hated so props to the author

 

[WokHei]

I just had to make an account to post how much I hated reading every second of this manga, and how irrationally mad I got from it up to chapter 32. Reading into the comments, I'm even more mad that I spent the time to read this and still not fully translated. Arguably, my anger and hatred might be good, because it does show that the characters are very well written in the sense of the characterization. Not all characters should be liked, and if you get made, that means they're well written.

However, the thing that makes me feel the most annoyed is arguably the pacing, especially early on. It felt like every second of things had to be answered and resolved within the chapter or next chapter. Things don't linger, and just keep progressing in a very static way that leaves no time to reflect.

Spoiler: Ramblings of some story issues I have

On top of that, is anyone else going to mention how in Vol.1 Ch. 7 Pg. 17-18 that Sayako tells Kazumi to just "give him to me", and nothing happens? It just jumps to Ichika and Reitarou, and there's no conflict between Sayako and Kazumi? There's no bad blood or emotional response? Just... NOTHING!?

Or are we ever going to touch back about Sayako's backstory with Hikari and the stalker? Does the stalker come back? Was she paranoid? Never gonna touch back on this supposedly famous woman (I say loosely since it's on what I can only assume is like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram with 300,000 followers)? Why is she famous? What did she do? How did she just end up here? Was it all planned?

And then Ms. Maki, who at first seemed like a good force in the story, literally stopping the perverted, manipulative teacher from involving himself more for his own sick and twisted goals. But then just reinforces Kazumi's mental delusions? Like, Mr. Ogino goes from a kinda bastard manipulating her in the background about Ichika and Hikari's relationship, to his own desires to be with her, to then trying to break her from her delusions from time to time, because he even knows she's both crazy and a liar, then back to manipulating it for his own interest in Kazumi. He is both correct in his assessment about Kazumi and what needs to be fixed (HER), and a bastard for trying to assert himself as some savior? And Ms. Maki becomes to most inefficient counsellor there by acknowledging his ulterior motives, stopping him, and then just disappearing after "stopping him". Like, what is the point of her.

The pacing feels just so off, the motivations feel so off, and everyone just moves or are in places conveniently. If someone has a problem, it just somehow magically gets resolved in the background except for those in this abusive family. I feel bad for Ichika, Sayako, and Hikari, and that's it:

Spoiler: Why I don't feel as bad for Reitaro as much anymore

because Reitarou, as a father, should never hit his child. No matter how much remorse he feels, he should not have touched Ichika, because that was the moral standing he had this entire time. But oops, I snapped after hearing what my abusive and manipulative wife had to say in this situation before my daughter could explain herself, and was spilling very real facts about her own mother.

This story is so infuriating, and it made me make a stupid account to vent it all out. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Atmosk]

This series makes me profoundly upset. I need to go lay down.

 

[aoee]

Mann i wanna punch that fucking Ogino

 

[vongdong]

Why rated that high? Plot sounds depressing

 

[raddcuban]

This series is... something. First half is an interesting trashfire of shit adults and wayward children, but starting around volume 7~8 it just jumps the shark so hard I think we need a new term for this level for this level of sudden and uncalled for convolution.
Absolute nonsense just takes over the story and all it does is delay resolving the main issues. Wild stuff. Can't wait for the EN tls to get there someday.

 

[Sgotfastbrainz]

I just had to make an account to post how much I hated reading every second of this manga, and how irrationally mad I got from it up to chapter 32. Reading into the comments, I'm even more mad that I spent the time to read this and still not fully translated. Arguably, my anger and hatred might be good, because it does show that the characters are very well written in the sense of the characterization. Not all characters should be liked, and if you get made, that means they're well written.

However, the thing that makes me feel the most annoyed is arguably the pacing, especially early on. It felt like every second of things had to be answered and resolved within the chapter or next chapter. Things don't linger, and just keep progressing in a very static way that leaves no time to reflect.

Spoiler: Ramblings of some story issues I have

On top of that, is anyone else going to mention how in Vol.1 Ch. 7 Pg. 17-18 that Sayako tells Kazumi to just "give him to me", and nothing happens? It just jumps to Ichika and Reitarou, and there's no conflict between Sayako and Kazumi? There's no bad blood or emotional response? Just... NOTHING!?

Or are we ever going to touch back about Sayako's backstory with Hikari and the stalker? Does the stalker come back? Was she paranoid? Never gonna touch back on this supposedly famous woman (I say loosely since it's on what I can only assume is like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram with 300,000 followers)? Why is she famous? What did she do? How did she just end up here? Was it all planned?

And then Ms. Maki, who at first seemed like a good force in the story, literally stopping the perverted, manipulative teacher from involving himself more for his own sick and twisted goals. But then just reinforces Kazumi's mental delusions? Like, Mr. Ogino goes from a kinda bastard manipulating her in the background about Ichika and Hikari's relationship, to his own desires to be with her, to then trying to break her from her delusions from time to time, because he even knows she's both crazy and a liar, then back to manipulating it for his own interest in Kazumi. He is both correct in his assessment about Kazumi and what needs to be fixed (HER), and a bastard for trying to assert himself as some savior? And Ms. Maki becomes to most inefficient counsellor there by acknowledging his ulterior motives, stopping him, and then just disappearing after "stopping him". Like, what is the point of her.

The pacing feels just so off, the motivations feel so off, and everyone just moves or are in places conveniently. If someone has a problem, it just somehow magically gets resolved in the background except for those in this abusive family. I feel bad for Ichika, Sayako, and Hikari, and that's it:

Spoiler: Why I don't feel as bad for Reitaro as much anymore

because Reitarou, as a father, should never hit his child. No matter how much remorse he feels, he should not have touched Ichika, because that was the moral standing he had this entire time. But oops, I snapped after hearing what my abusive and manipulative wife had to say in this situation before my daughter could explain herself, and was spilling very real facts about her own mother.

This story is so infuriating, and it made me make a stupid account to vent it all out. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dont commit so much to misery slop.

there's better stuff out there, like EVOL.

 

[BluXD_]

Reading the spoilers in this thread has made me drop this shit. I kinda felt bad for Reitaro at the start, and the pacing is a bit fast, but I've dealt with slop pacing before. After the latest chapters and the spoilers here though, shit man fuk that guy. If he don't want the other girl I'll glady take her u dam spineless bitch.

gaw dam this was absolutley infuriating to read, half-way through I asked if this is ragebait. And the latest arc spoilers??? They just went back to being happy by, forgive me if I misunderstood, letting their daughter go screw off??? Holy hell, the author has to be fucking ragebaiting us, like in all sincerity what is this???

Happy that in the latest arc they happy, they fucking deserve each-other.